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Caleb mensha khaine

Lady eowyn wrote:is mentioned in the history page of an existing region

I learned something new today.

Lindon-rivendell

Caleb mensha khaine wrote:I learned something new today.

Ok
BTW I learnt the OwO with glasses
OwO

Lindon-rivendell

Welcome new nations!

Can someone explain to me why there is a barrier, and even some hostility, between elves and dwarves? I do not remember any past conflict, in the first ages, that the dwarves would remember about. Was there a time when the dwarves barred passage through the mountains of Moria for fleeing elves? I can't think of anything else that would ignite this distrust and conflict between the two races. But perhaps I am wrong. Any information is appreciated.

Dwarven Mines and Clan frostbeard

Lindon-rivendell

Tatarica wrote:Can someone explain to me why there is a barrier, and even some hostility, between elves and dwarves? I do not remember any past conflict, in the first ages, that the dwarves would remember about. Was there a time when the dwarves barred passage through the mountains of Moria for fleeing elves? I can't think of anything else that would ignite this distrust and conflict between the two races. But perhaps I am wrong. Any information is appreciated.

It was mentioned in the hobbit= The skirmish over the arkenstone before smaug

Tatarica wrote:Can someone explain to me why there is a barrier, and even some hostility, between elves and dwarves? I do not remember any past conflict, in the first ages, that the dwarves would remember about. Was there a time when the dwarves barred passage through the mountains of Moria for fleeing elves? I can't think of anything else that would ignite this distrust and conflict between the two races. But perhaps I am wrong. Any information is appreciated.

Something about attacking Menegroth.

Would it have been an allegory about aristocracy and the working class? Hence a degree of natural division?

Tatarica wrote:Can someone explain to me why there is a barrier, and even some hostility, between elves and dwarves? I do not remember any past conflict, in the first ages, that the dwarves would remember about. Was there a time when the dwarves barred passage through the mountains of Moria for fleeing elves? I can't think of anything else that would ignite this distrust and conflict between the two races. But perhaps I am wrong. Any information is appreciated.

Well there is this and that but the Khazad do remember the conflict, and so do the elves... at first the elves did get along with dwarves but that changed with the death of King Thingol of house Teleri during the First Age.

King Thingol received Nauglamir (a collar made by the dwarves of Belegost) among other treasures from Húrin (a heroe of Men). Nauglamir was one of the finest jewels in Middle Earth and King Thingol wanted to restore it and combine it with the Silmaril, in other make them into one new jewel. To archive this Thingol summoned smiths and expert dwarves from Nogrod to restore the Nauglamir and the rest of his treasures. But went the jewels were restored the Nogrodian (Firebeards dwarves) asked for Nauglamir as payment for their labor, they wanted to returned it to the neighbours the Belegostian (Broadbeams), the dwarves demanded the necklace insisting that as dwarf work it belonged to Belegost and of course Thingol refused and insulted them which angered the dwarves and so they were driven out of Menegroth (King Thingol´s underground city, built by the dwarves of Belegost) by sword.

The dwarves felt insulted by the elvish king reaction, since they support him and his people with weapons and constructions against the orcs from the North.

The Nogrodian and Belegostian mustered and army and march on Menegroth, sacking the city in order to retrieve the dwarven jewel, killing King Thingol in the process. The dead of the High King of the Sindar caused a harsh rivalry between the elves and dwarves of Middle Earth, blaming one to another in whom started the conflict, whom was the greedy one on the matter, to whom the jewel was rightfully whose and such.

King Thingol was a respected king and his death caused immense outrage throughout Beleriand. The elves grew to despise the dwarves, and the dwarves did the same.

The generations that follow learned to hate one another. In the Second Age, the Firebeards and Broadbeams who lived in Nogrod and Belegost left their destructed cities (an outcome of the War of Wrath) and came to Khazad-dûm (Longbeards), increasing its wealth and power, but also their customs and beliefs. So the apprehension and hate spread with this migration, and that barrier between elves and dwarves remained until the Third Age.

That’s one of the main reasons why elves and dwarves hate each other.

Tatarica, March of Maedhros, and Clan frostbeard

Lindon-rivendell

Lindon-rivendell wrote:Joined!

left.
got kicked out for low effort posts,
wow, me who doesnt have much time, mainly because of school, gets kicked out because, he wanted to chill in the background.
wow.

Dunland and enedwaith

Lindon-rivendell wrote:left.
got kicked out for low effort posts,
wow, me who doesnt have much time, mainly because of school, gets kicked out because, he wanted to chill in the background.
wow.

haha, lol
anyways imma join it

Thank you to everyone that contributed to the safety of Middle Earth.

The regional Activity was in an all-top high since maybe 1 year ago, with so much activity happening in a very short span at the update time 8 hours ago. I am unsure if there is something we have to do on our end at this moment, so please feel free to contact me.

Again, thank you very much for the help!

Lindon-rivendell wrote:left.
got kicked out for low effort posts,
wow, me who doesnt have much time, mainly because of school, gets kicked out because, he wanted to chill in the background.
wow.

Dunland and enedwaith wrote:haha, lol
anyways imma join it

Things on the official NationStates forum / roleplay section can get a bit heated, since there are a number of roleplay gurus active and many that view the roleplay section as a place where only elite and top-tier posts can exist. So perhaps there's a little bit of self-entitlement going around there. Which can be fine, since I suppose that it makes the quality of the roleplays a little bit better, to the detriment of less experienced roleplayers or people that have less time to contribute.

Dunland and enedwaith

Tatarica wrote:Things on the official NationStates forum / roleplay section can get a bit heated, since there are a number of roleplay gurus active and many that view the roleplay section as a place where only elite and top-tier posts can exist. So perhaps there's a little bit of self-entitlement going around there. Which can be fine, since I suppose that it makes the quality of the roleplays a little bit better, to the detriment of less experienced roleplayers or people that have less time to contribute.

oh, so that's why he got kicked out.

Lindon-rivendell

Lindon-rivendell

Tatarica wrote:Things on the official NationStates forum / roleplay section can get a bit heated, since there are a number of roleplay gurus active and many that view the roleplay section as a place where only elite and top-tier posts can exist. So perhaps there's a little bit of self-entitlement going around there. Which can be fine, since I suppose that it makes the quality of the roleplays a little bit better, to the detriment of less experienced roleplayers or people that have less time to contribute.

ohhh so elerian is a karen.

Thank you, Lindon-rivendell, Smeagollum, Bombadil and Dwarven Mines for your answers on the dwarves vs elves question I posed earlier.

I had also assumed it to be something assumed by the author in the shape of what Bombadil described, but to be fair, the explanations offered by the rest of you, especially Dwarven Mines do make sense. It's quite a shame that a long-standing conflict and distrust existed between the two races just because of an isolated conflict sometimes in the past, which grew and involved whole factions. However, there were enough that had no issues with the other race.

Dunland and enedwaith wrote:oh, so that's why he got kicked out.

I have no idea what happened on the RP forums. I was just saying a personal opinion regarding the RP forum as a whole, not anything or anyone in particular. If you feel wronged, feel free to ask them personally. I am sure there is a perfectly valid answer. In the end, the GM of the RP decides what they want to do there.

Tatarica wrote:I have no idea what happened on the RP forums. I was just saying a personal opinion regarding the RP forum as a whole, not anything or anyone in particular. If you feel wronged, feel free to ask them personally. I am sure there is a perfectly valid answer. In the end, the GM of the RP decides what they want to do there.

Talking about RP, it there gonna be a Middle Earth Roleplay this year?

I am definitely up to host it if people are interested to participate. Things do need to be a bit fleshed out on my end to make things clearer for first-time players, but I can also try to do that if there is interest in the RP.

The main task is finding enough people that are interested to play. Even if it doesn't take much commitment per-week or bi-weekly (since you don't have to do much if you don't want to), it does take some dedication since the RP can last for a few months in the case it's a good one.

I was unsure if people were still interested, or if new people could be interested in. It is definitely something we can discuss!

Lindon-rivendell

Tatarica wrote:I am definitely up to host it if people are interested to participate. Things do need to be a bit fleshed out on my end to make things clearer for first-time players, but I can also try to do that if there is interest in the RP.

The main task is finding enough people that are interested to play. Even if it doesn't take much commitment per-week or bi-weekly (since you don't have to do much if you don't want to), it does take some dedication since the RP can last for a few months in the case it's a good one.

I was unsure if people were still interested, or if new people could be interested in. It is definitely something we can discuss!

PLS PLS PLS I WANT TO!
And not only to make elerian jelaous

Dunland and enedwaith

Tatarica wrote:I am definitely up to host it if people are interested to participate. Things do need to be a bit fleshed out on my end to make things clearer for first-time players, but I can also try to do that if there is interest in the RP.

The main task is finding enough people that are interested to play. Even if it doesn't take much commitment per-week or bi-weekly (since you don't have to do much if you don't want to), it does take some dedication since the RP can last for a few months in the case it's a good one.

I was unsure if people were still interested, or if new people could be interested in. It is definitely something we can discuss!

why not

Tatarica wrote:I am definitely up to host it if people are interested to participate. Things do need to be a bit fleshed out on my end to make things clearer for first-time players, but I can also try to do that if there is interest in the RP.

The main task is finding enough people that are interested to play. Even if it doesn't take much commitment per-week or bi-weekly (since you don't have to do much if you don't want to), it does take some dedication since the RP can last for a few months in the case it's a good one.

I was unsure if people were still interested, or if new people could be interested in. It is definitely something we can discuss!

If you need help with something to make it happen, I can help you out. Name it and we can discuss in order to craft something. Honestly last RP, I had a blast. It was quite fun to participate on the game and of course to help you to the upgrade the map appearance as well in the process.

Tatarica, Lindon-rivendell, and Dunland and enedwaith

Dunland and enedwaith

Dwarven Mines wrote:If you need help with something to make it happen, I can help you out. Name it and we can discuss in order to craft something. Honestly last RP, I had a blast. It was quite fun to participate on the game and of course to help you to the upgrade the map appearance as well in the process.

:D

Lindon-rivendell

Dunland and enedwaith wrote::D

excitement:
lvl. 8 but fliped by 90°

There is no proof that Melkor ever did anything wrong. In fact, historical records seem to show the exact opposite. One of his main acts of benevolence was the mass ejection of Elves, who were fledgling tyrants that sucked away at our resources and contributed nothing of value in their few seconds in Arda. Melkor actively worked to improve Middle Earth, in fact, with his ejection of the oligarchic tyrants known as “Valar” that masqueraded as democratic security agents being a true example to us all of strong leadership and the beauty of our fragile democracy.

Dwarven Mines wrote:If you need help with something to make it happen, I can help you out. Name it and we can discuss in order to craft something. Honestly last RP, I had a blast. It was quite fun to participate on the game and of course to help you to the upgrade the map appearance as well in the process.

Thank you very much for that offer. I will definitely keep it in mind!

The Sauron wrote:There is no proof that Melkor ever did anything wrong.

Other than the sins of pride, lust and envy, Melkor is a decent higher being

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