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Lowest Overall Tax Burden: 167th Highest Crime Rates: 211th Rudest Citizens: 234th+23
Highest Unexpected Death Rate: 262nd Fattest Citizens: 272nd Largest Soda Pop Sector: 309th Most Nations: 402nd Largest Retail Industry: 437th Highest Disposable Incomes: 465th Most Avoided: 490th Most Rebellious Youth: 506th Most Armed: 528th Largest Gambling Industry: 550th Most World Assembly Endorsements: 554th Highest Wealthy Incomes: 621st Largest Pizza Delivery Sector: 1,376th Greatest Rich-Poor Divides: 1,432nd Largest Publishing Industry: 1,467th Highest Economic Output: 1,763rd Largest Mining Sector: 1,809th Most Cultured: 1,892nd Highest Average Incomes: 1,914th Largest Information Technology Sector: 1,965th Most Scientifically Advanced: 2,057th Largest Black Market: 2,154th Largest Manufacturing Sector: 2,197th
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Libertatem - NationStates' premier Libertarian region
Founded August 5, 2012


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Brief History of Governance:
1st Constitution: 18 Jan 2013 - 18 Jun 2016
Libertatem Empire: 9 Feb 2013 - 28 Jul 2013
2nd Republic: 18 Jun 2016 - 2 Sep 2018
Interregnum: 2 Sep 2018 - 10 May 2019
Consulate: 10 May 2019 - 16 Apr 2020
3rd Republic: 6 Jun 2020 -


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The Foreign Ministry Act & CCPA were passed unanimously by the Assembly and signed by the Glorious Leader, President Auxorii

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Regional Power: Moderate

Libertatem contains 43 nations, the 402nd most in the world.

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Nations ranked highly have lower rates of preventable death, with their citizens enjoying longer average lifespans.

As a region, Libertatem is ranked 23,136th in the world for Longest Average Lifespans.

NationWA CategoryMotto
1.The Dominion of Evil genius landMoralistic Democracy“Let's do something evil”
2.The Democratic Republic of Nosam RepublicInoffensive Centrist Democracy“God be With Us”
3.The Federation of BievaCorporate Bordello“Harmonie en Veerkracht”
4.The Republic of Nich-landCivil Rights Lovefest“All dogs are good dogs”
5.The Free Republic and Valleys of AuxoriiLeft-Leaning College State“Bread for all and roses too.”
6.The Hierarchy of UmakiaCorrupt Dictatorship“Only labor earns the title to true nobility”
7.The Principality of SchisoMoralistic Democracy“Antudo”
8.The Dominion of New Scotish Republic of the PacificCapitalist Paradise“E Mare Libertas”
9.The Lack of A better nameInoffensive Centrist Democracy“Things fall apart”
10.The Oppressed Peoples of FitnessgramistanIron Fist Consumerists“Fitness isn't just a hobby, it's a lifestyle!”
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Skaveria wrote:What're some good criticisms of The Confederate States of America besides slavery from a Libertarian perspective? On the surface, a Confederal style of government seems inherently freer than a Federal style.

I'm already aware of the protectionism that was rampant in the South, and I'm also aware that several founders of the American Socialist and Labor parties were Southerners that shed their racism.

How do I square what seems to me to be the most individualist, rebelious, part of the country in terms of culture, with these facts? I'd like to take a course on the American South, but it wouldn't go towards my major and I'm suspicious it'd be riddled with propaganda.

Taxonomy
One of the greatest was the taxonomic changes. Before the civil war a confederacy was supposed to have a stronger central government than than a federal government. federal = federation.

The rub is that America is also a Union. The North seized the concept to impose Nationalization of the Federal Government not just over the 17 specific elements, but using the elastic clause to glob undelegated powers from all sources. Before the Civil War it was these United States. After the Civil war it was this United States. (Our Civil War was actually a Revolutionary War, as the United States was no longer a United Federation with a singular representative State (DC), but a Federal Union with a national state of the State (The Federal Government itself)).

The South needed to call itself something so it made a callback to the American Confederacy of the American Revolution. Before the Civil War the Confederacy had a stronger centralized governance Executively and Legislatively, but not Judicially. After the Civil War the North Federal Government had stronger powers all around and consolidated its claim with the Reconstruction. The concepts of a Federal Government having more centralization than a Confederacy has been set by this accident of history.

What was wrong with the Confederacy
The Confederacy was proto-Marxist in a loose American Christian Democrat sense but not an a Atheistic Marxist way -- although an actual Marxist revolution with all the hate, bigotry racism, that comes with Marxism, and lack of industry would have been very easy to accomplish. All the problems that have plagued the Democratic Party were intensified since the Democratic Party was ascendant (the party of chattel slavery, anti-equality, anti-13th Amendment, anti-Civil rights acts, pro-Jim Crow, pro-KKK, pro-segregation, pro-serfdom, pro-Socialist, anti-personal liberty.

There was a 3rd Great Awakening that went through the South in the 50s and 60s. Orthodox Christians hold that there is only one race, human (and any racial distinctions are cultural and familial). But the South gravitated to the racism taught in the social sciences of the time that Whites were evolutionary superior to other races. While they were anti-intellectual, they prided themselves on picking and choosing from the sciences what supported their prejudices.

The Confederacy was Anti-Intellectual (in the american sense) in general.

The South was adamant that Chattel Slavery was justified because of the scientifically proven superiority of Whites on one hand, and that God allowed it on the other --even though chattel slavery as practiced by the South is forbidden in Leviticus and the science to which they noted (what became known as Eugenics and Social Darwinism) was absolutely refuted by the end of WW2, but had standing in Academia until then.

They did not believe that Equality applied to all human beings. (Some people are more equal than others).

They did not believe that rights were inalienable.

They believed in poll taxes and direct taxation of the Citizenry which Federalists, Republicans (generic sense), and the GOP are supposed to abhor.

look up george fitzhugh

this guy was the epitome of "southern socialism"

Republic of Minerva wrote:look up george fitzhugh

this guy was the epitome of "southern socialism"

The most striking thing I learned from reading about him is that he not only supported the enslavement of blacks, but wanted to EXPAND it to include whites as well.

Unnamed abolitionist, 1849- "But George, enslaving people because of their race is wrong!"

George, *eyes narrowing*- "You know what...?"

A Socialist is someone who is horrified of the thought that there are people out there who can govern themselves without their input.

Republic of Minerva wrote:ooohhh we will privatize the schools and privatize the police, we'll privatize the fire department and sewage facilities, we'll privatize the water and we'll privatize the air, we'll privatize roads because we don't care


:) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Thanx for the segway.
***Narland gets on his soapbox***
Please reprivatize the schools. Return them to being public schools (controlled by the private citizens of the respective community) with the lands and plant paid for by local bond, instead of state schools masquerading as public. Never have we spent so much per person and gotten so little in return. Enslaving a child for 12 years for the purported purpose of Education and Morality only to matriculate a lying, cheating, government dependent man-child who cannot read, write and think well enough to appreciate the liberal arts, nor apply the most basic of maths, science and reason to the most basic of needs, nor to ably govern himself productively in a free and open society is the height of child abuse. I am serious when saying there are administrators and bureaucrats who need to be jailed for this malfeasance/miscarriage.

Homeshoolers on a fraction of the cost, with the right curricula produce young adults with an average of 2 grade levels of academic superiority, better socialization and civic community skills, less criminality, better business acumen, and more productivity than government schools, or charter schools.

My fire brigade is a civic organization. They raise money like police departments used to do -- charity, BBQs, Salmon cookoffs, Fireman's Ball (really a poor man's gala) kickstarter programs, applying for grants, and occasionally a voter bond (not since the 70s, iirc).

My police department (when I lived in an incorporated town) used to be a volunteer civic organization until it was usurped the the city government in the early 1990s to receive federal funds. It is now a unionized tool of the city council no longer responsive to the community that spawned it back when it was a private civic organization . Now i'm rural, my firearms, neighbors and Sheriff's Department (if/when needed) are my police.

Yes, the Progressives broke the Police Departments just so they could institute squads of Marxist thugs who have no idea of Constitutional Rights or Peelian principles are. Solution: return to being civic organization based on Constitutional and (if need be) Peelian principles run by and answerable to the private citizens of the local communities in which they patrol as Peace Officers duly sworn to uphold the Constitution with its Bill of Rights, the respective State Constitution with its Articles of Rights, and the rights in the County/Municipal charter, seeing to that the rights, privileges and immunities of the People, each and every one are upheld.

Also when I lived in town, my sewage facilities was owned by the City of Paris, France (no joke) until they could no longer handle Socialist Nationalization and sold us to a private party, where it is dooing better than when we were a cash cow for the Citizens of Paris (and it is running much more efficiently). Of course now we have a septic tank and drainage field for humans and recycle the animal manure back onto the crops.

Every breath I breath, and every drop I drink is private -- a part of mine own private person.

Do not get me started on what a sham government run roads are... What a rip off. Administration of the roads by private citizens who caretake the very roads they themselves drive on within their own communities has been and is superior in efficiency in every way to public administration by city, country, state, and national unaccountable bureaucracy.
***Narland gets off his soapbox***

Narland wrote:Thanx for the segway.
***Narland gets on his soapbox***
Please reprivatize the schools. Return them to being public schools (controlled by the private citizens of the respective community) with the lands and plant paid for by local bond, instead of state schools masquerading as public. Never have we spent so much per person and gotten so little in return. Enslaving a child for 12 years for the purported purpose of Education and Morality only to matriculate a lying, cheating, government dependent man-child who cannot read, write and think well enough to appreciate the liberal arts, nor apply the most basic of maths, science and reason to the most basic of needs, nor to ably govern himself productively in a free and open society is the height of child abuse. I am serious when saying there are administrators and bureaucrats who need to be jailed for this malfeasance/miscarriage.

Homeshoolers on a fraction of the cost, with the right curricula produce young adults with an average of 2 grade levels of academic superiority, better socialization and civic community skills, less criminality, better business acumen, and more productivity than government schools, or charter schools.

My fire brigade is a civic organization. They raise money like police departments used to do -- charity, BBQs, Salmon cookoffs, Fireman's Ball (really a poor man's gala) kickstarter programs, applying for grants, and occasionally a voter bond (not since the 70s, iirc).

My police department (when I lived in an incorporated town) used to be a volunteer civic organization until it was usurped the the city government in the early 1990s to receive federal funds. It is now a unionized tool of the city council no longer responsive to the community that spawned it back when it was a private civic organization . Now i'm rural, my firearms, neighbors and Sheriff's Department (if/when needed) are my police.

Yes, the Progressives broke the Police Departments just so they could institute squads of Marxist thugs who have no idea of Constitutional Rights or Peelian principles are. Solution: return to being civic organization based on Constitutional and (if need be) Peelian principles run by and answerable to the private citizens of the local communities in which they patrol as Peace Officers duly sworn to uphold the Constitution with its Bill of Rights, the respective State Constitution with its Articles of Rights, and the rights in the County/Municipal charter, seeing to that the rights, privileges and immunities of the People, each and every one are upheld.

Also when I lived in town, my sewage facilities was owned by the City of Paris, France (no joke) until they could no longer handle Socialist Nationalization and sold us to a private party, where it is dooing better than when we were a cash cow for the Citizens of Paris (and it is running much more efficiently). Of course now we have a septic tank and drainage field for humans and recycle the animal manure back onto the crops.

Every breath I breath, and every drop I drink is private -- a part of mine own private person.

Do not get me started on what a sham government run roads are... What a rip off. Administration of the roads by private citizens who caretake the very roads they themselves drive on within their own communities has been and is superior in efficiency in every way to public administration by city, country, state, and national unaccountable bureaucracy.
***Narland gets off his soapbox***

The water in the community my brother-in-law is from in Idaho has been private for over a century. The system was fronted in the early 20th century by his great-grandfather and another man through a zero-interest loan they floated to the community. They charged a "water bill" to pay off the loan until the 40's after which the entire community has been receiving free spring tap water. Of course the county government has tried to get their hands on it, but so far they have been blocked by the community.

The United States of Patriots wrote:The water in the community my brother-in-law is from in Idaho has been private for over a century. The system was fronted in the early 20th century by his great-grandfather and another man through a zero-interest loan they floated to the community. They charged a "water bill" to pay off the loan until the 40's after which the entire community has been receiving free spring tap water. Of course the county government has tried to get their hands on it, but so far they have been blocked by the community.

Good for them. May they forever be successful at keeping the wolves at bay. :) I love American can-do self-government.

Idaho is in a very real danger of turning into a Colorado (thanx to Boise (the capitol city running the rest of the state) in the next decade. We are doing the best we can to devolve political power to the counties and other local municipalities outside of Ada County but it is an uphill battle and perhaps too little too late.

If people only knew how little external government is needed when taught (and practice) some basic principles of self-government and civic virtue, they would be shocked at how little their paycheck (anything over 5% - 7.5% total taxation is waste, fraud, and abuse through inefficiency, oversaturation, and incompetence imnsho) needs to go to it. Under 10% total taxation means over 10% annual economic growth in free and open markets (with honest banking and a sound currency). That with a naturally deflationary stable currency means that the poor of the next generation can live as opulently as the rich of the previous generation when there is no welfare state to keep everyone from rising in actuality to the potential economic growth that is squandered by Statist exploitation.

Imagine the present where the poor of US having the means to live like Pelosi (should they so desire), but rioting because they cannot afford all the chemicals for their von-neuman devices (3-printers and such) for their home repair projects; complaining that their yachts are leaking and avgas is so expensive that they cannot take their private jets to St. Croix for holiday so have to settle for Barbados; grumbling that their FOSS PAIN (personal artificial intelligence networking) app only has an algorithm supporting a WAIS-R IQ of 130 (while the rich and famous have access to more than one with +200 IQ) and that their NIEENIDs (networked information, education, and entertainment neural input devices) only work 1/4 as efficiently as the one's sold to the rich and famous. And the actual opulent of the US having private space shuttles, moon bases and a manned expedition to Mars under our belts. Thanx a lot LBJ. Yeah, I am extrapolating a future that could have been, but we still have it pretty good when even our poor are carb rich in fatness, clothes covering their nakedness, have electricity, indoor plumbing, hot and could running water, access to internet, and churches, traditional civic organizations and a public library beckoning for them to come and learn.

Republic of Minerva wrote:look up george fitzhugh

this guy was the epitome of "southern socialism"

Skaveria wrote:The most striking thing I learned from reading about him is that he not only supported the enslavement of blacks, but wanted to EXPAND it to include whites as well.

Unnamed abolitionist, 1849- "But George, enslaving people because of their race is wrong!"

George, *eyes narrowing*- "You know what...?"

I believed I've mentioned George Fitzhugh several times to this date, and I've mentioned him in one of my factbooks. His doctrine was that the American concept of slavery provided an antecedent to a socialist society on the basis that relationships of mutual obligation, both in the moral-social and material-economic sense, were fostered by the hierarchy of the master-slave relationship on the plantation, and that from this hierarchy of mutual obligations could arise a collective mode of existence where everyone contributes from their ability and receives according to their need. Fitzhugh differed from Marx in realizing that this could not be an egalitarian endeavor if it were to be accomplished. A society bound by mutual obligations and reciprocal responsibilities naturally implied an order where the power of authority is unequally stratified. Those who profess to call themselves socialists today have glossed over this self-evident fact: To create a system that establishes the standards of common welfare and prosperity, there must be someone to order the relationships of a society to achieve that result. This implies the state and the state implies hierarchy and authority, in complete contradistinction to liberty and equality which create chaos and destruction like that seen in America's cities, not to mention poverty and destitution for a majority and the obscene excess of a few cosmopolitan types who inevitably come to comprise a de facto international elite. Liberty and equality are already dead, waiting to be replaced. But because of the chimerical instincts of modern socialism, which revolts against hierarchy and authority, the psychic and ethical supremacy of the state and the evidence of this through the popular expressions of nationalism, socialism will never succeed in replacing liberalism. And don't get me started on the many, many people who think that liberalism can be resurrected in some form and that it won't just fail again. Those are the biggest dupes of all.

Suzi Island wrote:what do people think of parler? seems cool to be able to have some censored voices back.

There terms and conditions are very illiberal. Section 6 IIRC transfers your copyright and grants them licence to reproduce and to modify any and all content that you post. Somewhere else they disavow any moral claim as to how this is used.

Another Section grants them the ability to cancel your account "for no reason whatsoever."

Not something I would recommend.

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