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1.The People's Republic of PolyankaAuthoritarian Democracy“Christians of the World, unite!”
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10.The Theocracy of Idlib and RaqqaIron Fist Consumerists“Afflavit Deus Et Dissipantur”
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The Democratic Republic of Confederate farmers wrote:I agree!

That's fine if you agree - that is your opinion however the facts which are currently available don't support your opinion. So whilst you can have it, it is not technically correct.

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The Free Land of Sanpine wrote:'Thanks for the response.
I'm aware you weren't arguing the morality of homosexuality. Your inference was that homosexuality was a 'violation of nature' because homosexuals couldn't reproduce. The argument was that because they can't reproduce, they were a 'violation of nature'. I was trying to display the flaw in the logic as sterile couples can't reproduce either - exactly the same a same-sex couples. Based on your logic, this would render sterile couples to also be 'violations of nature' - which is clearly ridiculous and certainly what I don't think you were trying to intend. So I don't think one can denounce homosexuality on the basis that same-sex couples can't reproduce as there are a range of heterosexual couples who can't reproduce - we can't affirm one class yet denounce the other based on the same outcome. Based on this, I think your initial argument was based on shaky foundations and wouldn't be one to hold up in a society which values opinions which are consistent and evidence based.
Your 2nd argument: 'homosexuality is always a choice' - The Fascist Theocracy of Altius
:( I would be inclined to believe this if you could show me a peer reviewed article which says this. The literature coming out at the moment at best for you says it is a range of factors which influence someone's sexuality however there is also a lot of literature which does say that it is a biological disposition. This is also very close to my heart. My cousin is gay and is the son of a Baptist Minister (my uncle). I've spoken with him tonnes about it and he always says 'why would I have chosen this?' and it's true. He ran the risk of his family, especially his father, hating and shunning him. He could have lost everything. No one chooses to loose everything. He tried to 'pray it away' but of course, it didn't work. He's a Christian and so is his partner and his dad took the high road and chose love over condemnation aka, the Jesus option.
All I ask is that we use facts and be consistent and remember we're talking about real people with real feelings - we often miss that in this discussion.

I agree ..

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Post by Confederate farmers suppressed by Sanpine.

The Free Land of Sanpine wrote:'Thanks for the response.
I'm aware you weren't arguing the morality of homosexuality. Your inference was that homosexuality was a 'violation of nature' because homosexuals couldn't reproduce. The argument was that because they can't reproduce, they were a 'violation of nature'. I was trying to display the flaw in the logic as sterile couples can't reproduce either - exactly the same a same-sex couples. Based on your logic, this would render sterile couples to also be 'violations of nature' - which is clearly ridiculous and certainly what I don't think you were trying to intend. So I don't think one can denounce homosexuality on the basis that same-sex couples can't reproduce as there are a range of heterosexual couples who can't reproduce - we can't affirm one class yet denounce the other based on the same outcome. Based on this, I think your initial argument was based on shaky foundations and wouldn't be one to hold up in a society which values opinions which are consistent and evidence based.
Your 2nd argument: 'homosexuality is always a choice' - The Fascist Theocracy of Altius
:( I would be inclined to believe this if you could show me a peer reviewed article which says this. The literature coming out at the moment at best for you says it is a range of factors which influence someone's sexuality however there is also a lot of literature which does say that it is a biological disposition. This is also very close to my heart. My cousin is gay and is the son of a Baptist Minister (my uncle). I've spoken with him tonnes about it and he always says 'why would I have chosen this?' and it's true. He ran the risk of his family, especially his father, hating and shunning him. He could have lost everything. No one chooses to loose everything. He tried to 'pray it away' but of course, it didn't work. He's a Christian and so is his partner and his dad took the high road and chose love over condemnation aka, the Jesus option.
All I ask is that we use facts and be consistent and remember we're talking about real people with real feelings - we often miss that in this discussion.

I agree ..

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Post by Confederate farmers suppressed by Sanpine.

The Free Land of Sanpine wrote:It's fairly well known (and accepted) now in the scientific community that identical twins do NOT share the same DNA, although it is very similar. I'm very interested to see evidence from that study as I really don't think it conforms to modern understandings of Genetics.
'Geneticist Carl Bruder of the University of Alabama at Birmingham, and his colleagues closely compared the genomes of 19 sets of adult identical twins. In some cases, one twin's DNA differed from the other's at various points on their genomes. At these sites of genetic divergence, one bore a different number of copies of the same gene, a genetic state called copy number variants.'
Source - http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/identical-twins-genes-are-not-identical/
'The new findings appear in the March issue of The American Journal of Human Genetics, in a study conducted by scientists at the University of Alabama at Birmingham and universities in Sweden and the Netherlands. The scientists examined the genes of 10 pairs of monozygotic, or identical, twins, including 9 pairs in which one twin signs of dementia or Parkinson's disease and the other did not.'
Source - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/health/11real.html
It begs the question - Did you choose to be straight?? If your claim is correct, the process of sexual orientation is a series of choices? If homosexuality is a series of small unconscious choices, surely heterosexuality must be a series of small unconscious choices too? That's not my theory - I'm just trying to apply consistent logic.
Here is a TEDx video called 'Homosexuality: It's about survival - not sex' by James O'Keefe who presents a message based on emerging evidence of a same-sex attraction being a biological predisposition. Very interesting video, well worth a watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Khn_z9FPmU&index=12&list=LLKVh8useb6bxABemRU57xtA
And here is a short video about the Bible and homosexuality - we really need to read these passages in context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leIcLYj3I3U&index=8&list=LLKVh8useb6bxABemRU57xtA
As I've said before 'Whilst everyone is entitled to their own opinion, everyone is NOT entitled to their own facts.' This is one of the biggest contemporary issues facing the Church today. We cannot base this off mere supposition but we need to really study our Bibles and quote EVIDENCE. Saying 'I think...' whilst it is great, only says that it's your opinion - and your opinion only - not fact and if we're not basing our arguments on fact, we leave room for substantial error in our own arguments and thinking but also the ability to inflict great harm and damage on those who are already struggling (LGBTI young people aged 16 to 27 are five times more likely [than the general population to have attempted suicide in Australia].' Your words have weight and are impacting and affecting the mental health of millions of people. Jesus loves and encourages us to do the same. John 15:12 'This is My commandment, that you love one another as I loved you. '

TRUE!!

The Republic of Brusia wrote:Just going to drop in here on the science behind homosexuality: from what I learned in my Physiology classes, there is likely a physiological basis for homosexuality, reflected in neuroanatomical differences in sexually dimorphic brain structures between heterosexuals and homosexuals (http://www.pnas.org/content/105/30/10273.full). As another article states that "There is no proof that postnatal social environment has any crucial effect on gender identity or sexual orientation" (http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1073858410377005) the evidence would seem to suggest that homosexuality is not a choice, but rather the result of abnormal hormone levels in some sexually dimorphic brain structures during early neuro-development.

please tell me what sources I can find out supporting that statement.

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The Free Land of Sanpine wrote:It's fairly well known (and accepted) now in the scientific community that identical twins do NOT share the same DNA, although it is very similar. I'm very interested to see evidence from that study as I really don't think it conforms to modern understandings of Genetics.
'Geneticist Carl Bruder of the University of Alabama at Birmingham, and his colleagues closely compared the genomes of 19 sets of adult identical twins. In some cases, one twin's DNA differed from the other's at various points on their genomes. At these sites of genetic divergence, one bore a different number of copies of the same gene, a genetic state called copy number variants.'
Source - http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/identical-twins-genes-are-not-identical/
'The new findings appear in the March issue of The American Journal of Human Genetics, in a study conducted by scientists at the University of Alabama at Birmingham and universities in Sweden and the Netherlands. The scientists examined the genes of 10 pairs of monozygotic, or identical, twins, including 9 pairs in which one twin signs of dementia or Parkinson's disease and the other did not.'
Source - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/11/health/11real.html
It begs the question - Did you choose to be straight?? If your claim is correct, the process of sexual orientation is a series of choices? If homosexuality is a series of small unconscious choices, surely heterosexuality must be a series of small unconscious choices too? That's not my theory - I'm just trying to apply consistent logic.
Here is a TEDx video called 'Homosexuality: It's about survival - not sex' by James O'Keefe who presents a message based on emerging evidence of a same-sex attraction being a biological predisposition. Very interesting video, well worth a watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Khn_z9FPmU&index=12&list=LLKVh8useb6bxABemRU57xtA
And here is a short video about the Bible and homosexuality - we really need to read these passages in context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leIcLYj3I3U&index=8&list=LLKVh8useb6bxABemRU57xtA
As I've said before 'Whilst everyone is entitled to their own opinion, everyone is NOT entitled to their own facts.' This is one of the biggest contemporary issues facing the Church today. We cannot base this off mere supposition but we need to really study our Bibles and quote EVIDENCE. Saying 'I think...' whilst it is great, only says that it's your opinion - and your opinion only - not fact and if we're not basing our arguments on fact, we leave room for substantial error in our own arguments and thinking but also the ability to inflict great harm and damage on those who are already struggling (LGBTI young people aged 16 to 27 are five times more likely [than the general population to have attempted suicide in Australia].' Your words have weight and are impacting and affecting the mental health of millions of people. Jesus loves and encourages us to do the same. John 15:12 'This is My commandment, that you love one another as I loved you. '

Everybody's words impact the mental health of the people around them, no matter what those words are. Personally I will never stop speaking the truth just because it offends someone's sensibilities. The truth doesn't stop being the truth just because it is viewed as offensive. Please also consider Bible verses that people are uncomfortable with such as Romans 1:26-28, Jude 1:5-8 and, 1 Timothy 1:8-11. Yes, we should follow the commandment to love our neighbor as yourself, but even the parts of the Bible that make people uncomfortable are also valid.

Confederate farmers

The thing about homosexuality is I personally don't think it is either a 💯 % choice or birth. We have to remember that sociology has a tremendous impact. For example in Ancient Greece homosexuality was not only common,But 🎊🎉celebrated much like it is in our culture. Yet countries that see it as taboo in terms of religion,logic,taste,culture and more.

The Democratic Republic of Confederate farmers wrote:The thing about homosexuality is I personally don't think it is either a 💯 % choice or birth. We have to remember that sociology has a tremendous impact. For example in Ancient Greece homosexuality was not only common,But 🎊🎉celebrated much like it is in our culture. Yet countries that see it as taboo in terms of religion,logic,taste,culture and more.

You know like the 1700s,1800s 1930s~1960s America. ✝️📖

The Democratic Republic of Confederate farmers wrote:please tell me what sources I can find out supporting that statement.

http://www.pnas.org/content/105/30/10273.full

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1073858410377005

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