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TBH, I don't care either way (I'm not a citizen, but if I were, I doubt I'd bother to vote). I personally do not engage in hate speech anyway, and will abide by any rules passed to that effect, if that's what the citizens wish.

Axixic wrote:We wish we liked non-pornographic Anime. It would break up our busy day of drinking tequila waiting for Covid-19 to go away.
Oh hurry Magic Miracle cure promised by Satan’s Foster Child Donny, hurry before my liver fails.

(OOC: Anime is only a medium, there is plenty of non-pornographic Anime of about nearly all conceivable genera.

Although as I wrote earlier I am short of time so lately I have been "subcontracting" the viewing.

There is a Youtuber around here that watch all or nearly all of the series released and afterwards make a Top 10 (plus 5 finalists) of the best of the year. (I am currently watching the last one of 2019).

Some noteworthy: + (filmaffinity score)

Top:
1) High Score Girl: a nostalgic take of arcade videogames development and growing up as a teen in the early '90s. (7.1)
2) Beastars : Basically a furry world taken seriously with all of that entails. It's better than it sounds. (7.1)

(Pre modern(mostly))
4) Kimetsu no Yaiba: teen out in the woods, family killed by demons and sister cursed. Yeah, it seems so lack of original, despite that it is one of the best of the last year, (7.9)
7) Vinland Saga: vikings and revenge. Pretty accurate of the viking invasions of England. The author even travellend to Iceland to document it: (7.6)

(Space Opera)
5) Kidō Senshi Gundam Ji Orijin Zenya Akai Suisei : the (remake) origin of the most popular and extensive space saga in Anime
8) Kanata no astra: teens lost in space! (but things are not what it seems) (7.3)

(School setting+)
10) Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai: Light novel school setting + light science fiction (7.2)
2) Mob Psycho 100 II (2nd season): what would be the most typical shonen taken in the other direction.(7.9)

Hate speech in the FRCP is to be directed solely towards filthy Northern Imperialists, not between comrades in our utopian brotherhood.

New vedan and Dernel

New vedan wrote:On the other note we have already closed the doors of Lazarus to the Facists. I'm not exactly sure of the exact reason why we did that, as I was not there at the time those laws were passed.

We remove fascists on a case by case basis when we do, though no specific law was passed against individuals. Lazarus is empowered to attack fascist regions through the regional guard act.

Cossack Peoples wrote:Hate speech in the FRCP is to be directed solely towards filthy Northern Imperialists, not between comrades in our utopian brotherhood.

Is there a exception made for the Vedanese?

New Rogernomics wrote:We remove fascists on a case by case basis when we do, though no specific law was passed against individuals. Lazarus is empowered to attack fascist regions through the regional guard act.

So is the regional guard act is our only "anti facist" law then? I was sure that I read somewhere that facists were barred from Lazarus on the basis of being facist.

Aigania wrote:(OOC: Anime is only a medium, there is plenty of non-pornographic Anime of about nearly all conceivable genera.

Although as I wrote earlier I am short of time so lately I have been "subcontracting" the viewing.

There is a Youtuber around here that watch all or nearly all of the series released and afterwards make a Top 10 (plus 5 finalists) of the best of the year. (I am currently watching the last one of 2019).

Some noteworthy: + (filmaffinity score)

Top:
1) High Score Girl: a nostalgic take of arcade videogames development and growing up as a teen in the early '90s. (7.1)
2) Beastars : Basically a furry world taken seriously with all of that entails. It's better than it sounds. (7.1)

(Pre modern(mostly))
4) Kimetsu no Yaiba: teen out in the woods, family killed by demons and sister cursed. Yeah, it seems so lack of original, despite that it is one of the best of the last year, (7.9)
7) Vinland Saga: vikings and revenge. Pretty accurate of the viking invasions of England. The author even travellend to Iceland to document it: (7.6)

(Space Opera)
5) Kidō Senshi Gundam Ji Orijin Zenya Akai Suisei : the (remake) origin of the most popular and extensive space saga in Anime
8) Kanata no astra: teens lost in space! (but things are not what it seems) (7.3)

(School setting+)
10) Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai: Light novel school setting + light science fiction (7.2)
2) Mob Psycho 100 II (2nd season): what would be the most typical shonen taken in the other direction.(7.9)

I feel like having to specify that there IS indeed non porno anime says something. Dunno what.

Cossack Peoples wrote:Hate speech in the FRCP is to be directed solely towards filthy Northern Imperialists, not between comrades in our utopian brotherhood.

Filthy Northern Imperialist here. I tried making peace with you madmen but it got obliterated in the nether space of the RMB.

New vedan wrote:Is there a exception made for the Vedanese?

There are no Southerners outside the Compact. There are no Southerners outside the Compact. The Compact is the South. The Compact is the South. The Compact is the South...

Cianlandia wrote:I feel like having to specify that there IS indeed non porno anime says something. Dunno what.
Filthy Northern Imperialist here. I tried making peace with you madmen but it got obliterated in the nether space of the RMB.

I don't recall an official invitation to any particular peace conference, so I suppose it must've been the lobbying of WURCo. that kept it from reaching our eyes.

Delta Vega IV and New vedan

Cossack Peoples wrote:There are no Southerners outside the Compact. There are no Southerners outside the Compact. The Compact is the South. The Compact is the South. The Compact is the South...I don't recall an official invitation to any particular peace conference, so I suppose it must've been the lobbying of WURCo. that kept it from reaching our eyes.

Yep. Even made a factbook. "The aftermath." I understand, Cianlandia is also home to arms dealers. (Remember to look for the Made in Cianlandia sign in every marketable warzone!)

Glorious society

Cianlandia wrote:I feel like having to specify that there IS indeed non porno anime says something. Dunno what.
Filthy Northern Imperialist here. I tried making peace with you madmen but it got obliterated in the nether space of the RMB.

Blame the northerners, I was willing to settle a peace deal

New vedan and Cossack Peoples

Cianlandia wrote:Yep. Even made a factbook. "The aftermath." I understand, Cianlandia is also home to arms dealers. (Remember to look for the Made in Cianlandia sign in every marketable warzone!)

Oh, when I had read that, I had thought it implied the war was already over, so it need not be fretted. Really, OOC-wise, without two of the major combatants (ahem, Custadia) of an entire side, it was very difficult to work out specifics of how the war wrapped up. So what I've been operating under is that after the written first battle, there was another general-vague-we-both-have-reinforcements-and-fight-somewhere naval battle (or a string of battles or even a low-intensity campaign), then because we bashed each other pretty good and didn't want to pursue a land campaign halfway across the world in which neither have bases in, general-vague middle-ground nation acted as the location of an Armistice.

Keeping it vague.

Outergalactic federation of the emu

The North Pacific

Delta Vega IV wrote:Is this related in any way to the quest of Monkey Island?

no it about if u find the pirates kings one pice u become the pirate king

Isnt the radical left get just as bad as the radical right. Why do we all complain about Fascism when communism has slain and destroyed more than all Fascist nations ever?

Lis Gomer wrote:Isnt the radical left get just as bad as the radical right. Why do we all complain about Fascism when communism has slain and destroyed more than all Fascist nations ever?

Because Communism's ultimate goal was Communism everywhere, which is why we see them mildly as villains (best seen in American cinema 1960-1990). Meanwhile, Fascism's (specifically Nazism, since Italian fascism was pathetic) ultimate goal was the annihilation of all degenerate swine off the face of the earth, the institution of the Master Race, and German superiority over every stinking ape across the Channel, Sea, and Ocean. That's why we see them as villains. Same reason we don't portray Imperial Japan as the bad guys as often-- their ambitions were just plain and simple Imperialism. Like, grab some islands, flex Japanese superiority, profit?

Kappan and Lis Gomer

New vedan wrote:So is the regional guard act is our only "anti fascist" law then? I was sure that I read somewhere that fascists were barred from Lazarus on the basis of being fascist.

Folks that infiltrate our region for less than benign purposes are dealt with by the Council of Lazarene Security, and it has been the case for a long while now that we vote on regional bans of nations that pose a threat. There is no need for an 'anti-fascist law', as the powers already exist within the mandate to ban threats to regional security. Certainly we would respond to any threat, regardless of what ideology they might represent.

Glorious society

Cossack Peoples wrote:Because Communism's ultimate goal was Communism everywhere, which is why we see them mildly as villains (best seen in American cinema 1960-1990). Meanwhile, Fascism's (specifically Nazism, since Italian fascism was pathetic) ultimate goal was the annihilation of all degenerate swine off the face of the earth, the institution of the Master Race, and German superiority over every stinking ape across the Channel, Sea, and Ocean. That's why we see them as villains. Same reason we don't portray Imperial Japan as the bad guys as often-- their ambitions were just plain and simple Imperialism. Like, grab some islands, flex Japanese superiority, profit?

Mmm certain the Japanese had some ethnonationalism going on

Cianlandia wrote:Filthy Northern Imperialist here. I tried making peace with you madmen but it got obliterated in the nether space of the RMB.

I seem to remember asking several times for the northern fleets to back off, we only attacked when they entered our waters.

Cossack Peoples wrote:Because Communism's ultimate goal was Communism everywhere, which is why we see them mildly as villains (best seen in American cinema 1960-1990). Meanwhile, Fascism's (specifically Nazism, since Italian fascism was pathetic) ultimate goal was the annihilation of all degenerate swine off the face of the earth, the institution of the Master Race, and German superiority over every stinking ape across the Channel, Sea, and Ocean. That's why we see them as villains. Same reason we don't portray Imperial Japan as the bad guys as often-- their ambitions were just plain and simple Imperialism. Like, grab some islands, flex Japanese superiority, profit?

I dont think the nazis ultimate goal was world domination, at least not in that generation. They wanted to rule over europe tho and genocide everyone they deemed inferior, so there still definitely bad guys regardless.

As for why communists are not seen as being as bad as nazis, it's probably because the last facist superpowers were wiped out in a devestating world wide war decades ago by a combined force of Communists and capitalist democracy's. This lends credence to the idea that the facists were worse because otherwise why would we ally with the communists to destroy them? There was a point in time where the facists offerd to ally with the capitalists against the communists after all, and they were refused.

And then after the war the world was in relative peace. We had a cold war with the Soviets and fought a couple proxy wars with them sure, But none of those wars were as globally relevant as WW2, which means that hatred of communism was not spread across the globe like it was with facism. In fact many countrys sides with the communists during the cold war and may gave developed positive attitudes towards the ideology. A few of these countries are communist to this day, including the rising power of China, who will no doubt attempt to spread there ideology among the nations in its sphere of influnce.

And lastly you need to look at the ideology themselves. Communism (at least on paper) is about spreading the wealth of a nation among its residents equally. That natuarlly makes it popular among the poor in nations with high income inequality. Meanwhile Facism is all about Nationalism. Its supporters usually claim themselves to be superior in some way to others which is why they belive it's ok to invade there neigh ors or suppress/kill minority's within there territory. This kind of thinking is not very conductive to diplomacy and really theres no real reason why a facist country would want to spread there ideology to all corners of the earth. Millataristic nationalistic countrys with a superiority complex are more likely to fight each other instead of ally each other, case in point look at the Axis powers. The Germans and Japanese never really trusted each other and only allied one another because they were on opposite sides of the planet and so had no immediate plans to annex each the same territory, but were fighting the same enemies. Meanwhile Germany and Italy had a clear dominate subordinate relationship that the germans only kept up because they were fighting a war on two fronts and didnt want to open a third theater in the Alps. Had the axis powers won WW2 Germany would probably turn on Italy ar some point after they had secured there gains from the first bv war.

I think if a 21st century adopted Facism they would most likely turn towards isolationism, possibly after annexing territory from some of there immediate neighbors. They'd kill or displace whoever they wanted too and then close there borders and boulder nukes after the UN sanction them. And then try to achieve Autarcky. They wouldent want to spread there ideology because that would be mostly pointless tot hem and they believe foreigners are subhuman anyways. Instead they might would ally with any Communist/Capatalist nations that have views that align with them at the time being (if there are any) and possibly dissolve those alliances when it no longer suits them. They would mostly stay out of international affairs aside from possibly a occasional opportunistic land grab every now and then, and pretty much just be a Nazi North Korea. (In fact you could argue that NK is actually facist, not communist) Any same leader should know that a attempt at world conquest would end with the destruction of there regime, either by the enemies army or Nuclear weaponry. And they would probably be to poor to even seriously attempt it. Leaving isolationism there best shot at long term survival.

Kappan and Apimenia

New Rogernomics wrote:Folks that infiltrate our region for less than benign purposes are dealt with by the Council of Lazarene Security, and it has been the case for a long while now that we vote on regional bans of nations that pose a threat. There is no need for an 'anti-fascist law', as the powers already exist within the mandate to ban threats to regional security. Certainly we would respond to any threat, regardless of what ideology they might represent.

What if they were not a threat tho? What if its just some random Neo Nazi that refounds here and asks for citizenship with no connections to any existing regions? Would they be allowed to stay even if they like had a picture of hitler for a flag and and were sharing a quote from Mien Kamph on the RMB every day?

New vedan wrote:(In fact you could argue that NK is actually facist, not communist)

I would say North Korea is most certainly fascist. It's also odd how we label China communist when it has one of the largest consumer markets in the world, and how some people actually believe that the Nazi's were socialist because it was in the name.

Aigania and New vedan

Tubbius the Flabby has an especially itchy tummy tonight. His Obesity is quite scritchy-scratchy at it as He rests in bed by Mrs. Tubbius.

Ashoy and Dernel

Kappan wrote:I would say North Korea is most certainly fascist. It's also odd how we label China communist when it has one of the largest consumer markets in the world, and how some people actually believe that the Nazi's were socialist because it was in the name.

Chinas called communist because it kept all the authoritarian trappings of the Mao era communist government. And that its ruling party is called the Chinese Comunist Party. They most definitely have abandond Marx and Lenins ideals about the equal distribution of wealth in society. Most modern communist governments have, I think Cuba is supposed to be the last true hold out of old school soviet style communism.

Aigania wrote:(OOC: Anime is only a medium, there is plenty of non-pornographic Anime of about nearly all conceivable genera.

Although as I wrote earlier I am short of time so lately I have been "subcontracting" the viewing.

There is a Youtuber around here that watch all or nearly all of the series released and afterwards make a Top 10 (plus 5 finalists) of the best of the year. (I am currently watching the last one of 2019).

Some noteworthy: + (filmaffinity score)

Top:
1) High Score Girl: a nostalgic take of arcade videogames development and growing up as a teen in the early '90s. (7.1)
2) Beastars : Basically a furry world taken seriously with all of that entails. It's better than it sounds. (7.1)

(Pre modern(mostly))
4) Kimetsu no Yaiba: teen out in the woods, family killed by demons and sister cursed. Yeah, it seems so lack of original, despite that it is one of the best of the last year, (7.9)
7) Vinland Saga: vikings and revenge. Pretty accurate of the viking invasions of England. The author even travellend to Iceland to document it: (7.6)

(Space Opera)
5) Kidō Senshi Gundam Ji Orijin Zenya Akai Suisei : the (remake) origin of the most popular and extensive space saga in Anime
8) Kanata no astra: teens lost in space! (but things are not what it seems) (7.3)

(School setting+)
10) Rascal Does Not Dream of Bunny Girl Senpai: Light novel school setting + light science fiction (7.2)
2) Mob Psycho 100 II (2nd season): what would be the most typical shonen taken in the other direction.(7.9)

I like the ones where Baby Bunnies eat their Mother’s liver while Furry Fox Ladies do impossibly complex acrobatic tricks with over endowed horse men. Can’t recall the title. Used to run right after Sesame Street on PBS.Oh yeah, it was Sailor Moon Does Dallas.

New Rogernomics wrote:Folks that infiltrate our region for less than benign purposes are dealt with by the Council of Lazarene Security, and it has been the case for a long while now that we vote on regional bans of nations that pose a threat. There is no need for an 'anti-fascist law', as the powers already exist within the mandate to ban threats to regional security. Certainly we would respond to any threat, regardless of what ideology they might represent.

How could a nation who considers themselves “Fascist” ever be considered a threat to Lazarus?
And why should a regional government ever consider it OK to interfere in the internal affairs of a member/resident nation? For example, banning nations because of their proclaimed governmental type.

Except for “Lip-Service Democracies” of course. Those folks clearly want to dominate the NationStates Universe and make Everyone go to bed before 9 and no you can’t have a glass of water and get back in your bed Jimmy!

Frats and jocks

New vedan wrote:What if they were not a threat tho? What if its just some random Neo Nazi that refounds here and asks for citizenship with no connections to any existing regions? Would they be allowed to stay even if they like had a picture of hitler for a flag and and were sharing a quote from Mien Kamph on the RMB every day?

I suggest you read the NS acceptable flag policy, like the one here: viewtopic.php?f=16&t=361490
What you describe can be an actionable offense.

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