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I'm continuing this in Discord.
Of course. But a nation's primary objective is to look out for its own ideals. Just because a nation CLAIMS that the definition is changed or skewed doesn't mean diddly. That doesn't result in all debts and/or endowments suddenly falling apart. It just results in a nation getting away with whatever their original intentions were. It isn't like this doesn't happen in Intergovernmental Organizations (namely the UN). They have people who look for loopholes too.
Edit: To do a total 180, is there currently a Paris accords equivalent in the WA? I feel
like there was something a year ago dealing with climate change and renewable energy but can’t recall.
I agree that a nation can often claim a change in definition to justify non-compliance. But as others have said already no sane government would redefine debt, because in turn no sane lender would help service the government's outstanding debts or finance new debt. I don't agree, therefore, that the resolution was in need of a preambulatory clause as that would only leave it open to interpretation where it already does precisely what the author set out to do in the first place. Perhaps with environmental regulation, there might be a reasonable way to justify non-compliance, but not with a human rights resolution that assumes a universally accepted definition of debt.
Regardless, this is in my view a distraction. The merits, or lack thereof, one specific resolution do not have any bearing on his overall positive contribution to the website.
Your final statement I agree with.
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Gnejs by the way. Developing my main nation, I came to realize that they’d never be a member of the WA. So I resigned, but brought this old puppet here and gave it WA-status to keep Laeral’s endorsement count.
Bears Armed, Naboompu, Laeral, Verwood island archipelago, and 4 othersNew Lusitania and the Algarves, Libertas Omnium Maximus, Lauchenoiria, and Gonhog
Naessia is a hella cool name.
Then you should know that WA admins also tend not to like one-liners, exactly for the reasons I stated.
[quote]Resolutions have to be interpreted in good faith. Reasonable Nation is a principle that is used when writing resolutions to determine what a reasonable nation would do. Those are two fundamental principles of the GA. What all of you say could or might happen, couldn't because of those two principles.[/quote]
And that's not a problem when there's actual time and effort put into them. Again, regardless of IA's previous work, one-sentence resolutions are just lazy and drag down the WA as a whole.
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Begging the question. You're assuming that "reinterpreting debt"="redefining debt," which it doesn't. A government could very easily create (or even just exploit existing) loopholes to evade complying with the (vague and open) resolution. That's why economic policies tend to be so complex in the first place--exactly so that a "reinterpretation" or two doesn't crash the whole thing.
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I agree too. I'd actually forgotten there was an attempt to repeal their commendation. I'm arguing more about the Debtors' Rights resolution. I don't think IA's commendation should be repealed due to such one-liners, just that the one-liner itself should be repealed.
Heads up: the back story takes a little bit of a sad turn:
Zamastan was a combination of three names: mine, and two of my friends. When we were in elementary french immersion school in Canada back in 2003-07, we made comic books and imaginary worlds, and the combination was our 'publishing' logo.
Zach, Masito, and Tanner = ZaMasTan
Masito passed away in 2008, and for whatever reason this name came into my head when I started creating my nation (even years prior to joining Nationstates), so the name 'Zamastan' is, in a sense, a tribute to my buddy as well as a piece of nostalgia to my childhood.
As for the root explanation in the official canon (can be seen on my Official wiki (https://www.theidu.us/wiki/Zamastan#Etymology)), it comes from the native people's words 'Zaihma' and 'St’an', meaning ‘land touching sky’ and ‘extensive shores’ for Zamastan's mountains and ocean coastline.
Bears Armed, Naboompu, Gnejs, Laeral, and 3 othersNew Lusitania and the Algarves, Gonhog, and United New England
Nothing special. Every clever and punny name I could come up with was already taken. Looked up mythical lands and the Isle of Naboombu from "Bedknobs and Broomsticks" sounded cool and kinda catchy. Alas, it was taken and so I changed the 2nd "b" to a "p". Naboompu was born. The name has definitely grown on me over time.
I did have success with my only puppet nation Sulphur tetrafluoride, named after the seesaw molecule, though. Those who have taken chemistry and studied VSEPR theory should appreciate its motto "90 and 117 degrees of liberty".
What about "Gonhog"?
Bears Armed and Zamastan
This is objectively incorrect. A nation redefining debt has the effect of redefining the legal meaning of debt for all debtors and lenders, while finding a loophole as an individual has that effect only on one person's debt. I'd be interested to see if there is any kind of redefinition you can find that would actually be in a nation's interest?
I shall direct you to an earlier statement.
viewtopic.php?f=9&t=458412&p=35209749#p35208956
First resolution attempt! Let's see how it goes!
Bears Armed, Naboompu, Laeral, Verwood island archipelago, and 1 otherNew Lusitania and the Algarves
How is that a good faith interpretation consistent with GAR#2? If that was in a repeal argument, it would probably amount to an Honest Mistake violation.
It isn't good faith, neither is paying people to find loopholes in a tax code. That doesn't mean that it is in any way enforceable. Therefore, it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.
That interpretation violated GAR#2 and is therefore illegal. As such, it wasnt an issue that IA was required to accommodate.
It is in violation of GAR #2 unless the offender was to explain that they genuinely believed that "debts" was defined as such. Then you have a whole interpretation case. All of this could have been avoided by one stupid clause!
Bit late, but the name is the nounative of “great schnauzer” which of course in German is a single word. Simple as that.
Bears Armed, Naboompu, and Gonhog
Verwood Island is the main island in the archipelago.
It was, in the early days, heavily forested hence Verwood.
These days it’s still green but also technologically advanced at the same time.
Bears Armed and Gonhog
To be completely honest I don’t really remember. All I do remember is that it came from some kingdom or something like that when I was a kid.
Bears Armed and Naboompu
My nation's name approximately translates to "Lots of Liberty for Everyone" in Latin. I originally made it as a meme nation but changed my mind after about 12 days. The name, alas, couldn't be changed.
Bears Armed and Gonhog
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