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Today's World Census Report
The Most Extreme in International Debating Area
The World Census ranked nations on the basis of how odd, extreme, or fundamentalist their social, economic, and political systems are.
As a region, International Debating Area is ranked 13,369th in the world for Most Extreme.
|1.||The People's Socialist Kingdom of ISLAMIC PEOPLE OF SOMALIA||Psychotic Dictatorship||“Without the Socialist Party, There is No Development”|
|2.||The Lawful Dominion of Logomachies||Psychotic Dictatorship||“The Land Shall Be Built By The Law!”|
|3.||The Argumentative Free Republic of North Smolcasm||Capitalizt||“Gun and fun are one letter apart”|
|4.||The Community of Wmtz||Liberal Democratic Socialists||“We Have Practical Solutions to Society's Tough Problems”|
|5.||The Federal Republic of Westphalia-Gelre||Iron Fist Socialists||“Power to the Peasantry”|
|6.||The Kingdom of LunctLand||Capitalizt||“Strong Alone, Stronger Together”|
|7.||The Colony of UKSB Gibraltar||Iron Fist Consumerists||“Long Live Swisso-Britannia.”|
|8.||The Republic of GreaterAlbania||Right-wing Utopia||“God, Homeland, Liberty”|
|9.||The Dank Meme Repository of The 1337 CR3W||Corporate Bordello||“Ho Ho Ho”|
|10.||The Protectorate of Questioner IDA||Civil Rights Lovefest||“Constant Questionence!”|
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International Debating Area Regional Message Board
Right, and all of those nations have population less 25 million. You can't compare small countries like Singapore or Hong Kong (considering they are sitting on prime real estate) to those like the US or Canada.
And GDP is not the best measure of growth, economically speaking, sure, it might be, but in terms of development, HDI or happiness is a better indicator. And Nordic countries top both happiness and HDI, along with education, women's rights, etc. Those same Nordic countries have high tax rates and give back to the poor.
A competitive market economy? You realize the Chinese are an authoritarian, one-party, protectionist state, right?
Their capitalism is simply protectionism from foreign companies like Google. And their rise was only fueled by debt. Their debt-to-GDP is closing in on 300%, the US' or India's is nothing even close to that. The Chinese simply poured money into companies to fuel their growth (just look at the 50 million apartments with no one in them). When this debt bubble bursts (or more likely, the house market crashes), the global economy (especially the Chinese one) will go down in flames, not to mention the CCP will lose its control. Trump hasn't done anything to China, the stock markets hold a collective of around 5-8 trillion, which is measly, compared to the 30+ trillion of the US stock exchanges. The only reason they've fallen last year was because of Xi's internal policies.
Ooc alternative history what would Davy Crockett do as president of USA 🇺🇸 alternative history
I can answer that one easily.
Fess Parker - Ballad of Davy Crockett (1955)
Born on a mountain top in Tennessee,
Greenest state in the land of the free.
Raised in the woods so's he knew every tree,
Killed him a bear when he was only three.
Davy, Davy Crockett King of the Wild Frontier.
He fought single handed through the Injun war,
Till the Creeks was whipped and peace was restored.
And while he was handling this risky chore,
Made himself a legend, forevermore.
Davy, Davy Crockett the man who don't know fear.
When he lost his love, and his grief was gall,
In his heart he wanted to leave it all,
And lose himself in the forest tall,
But he answered instead, his country's call.
Davy, Davy Crockett, the choice of the whole frontier
He went off to Congress and served a spell
Fixin' up the government and laws as well.
Took over Washington, so we hear tell,
And patched up the crack in the Liberty Bell.
Davy, Davy Crockett, seein' his duty clear. (Serving his country well)
When he come home, his politickin' done,
The western march had just begun.
So he packed his gear, and his trusty gun
And lit out a grinnin' to follow the sun.
Davy, Davy Crockett, Leadin the Pioneers.
His land is biggest, and his land is best
From grassy plains to the mountain crest
He's ahead of us all in meeting the test
Followin' his legend right into the West
Davy, Davy Crockett, King of the Wide Frontier
King of the Wild Frontier.
under the monarchy he was the Queens male consort In charge of the servant,guards and to keep his wife happy. Head of the household not the government . Particularly loves to be with his daughters and is devoted to his wife the Queen 👸🏽
he has ask permission to speak which was as rare as possible,because he is a male her royal consort at the time her was only seen in the throne room when he would rub her feet or massaging her back even while she was eating.. Any time they walked together he would have 2 take to steps back unless she put her arm around her husband or held hands Unless when she is sitting his head has to be lower than the Queen (Soultion !👑👡👠👢) as a result where’s big crowns and high heels. The Queen occasionally would ordered him to spoon 🥄 feed her . The Queen had power over life over death over her husband,but no one else. The queen supper nice,compassionate,Joyfu l and ❤️ Profusely loves her husband .
]valerie The Queen of confederate farmers Recognized by the people ,but not the Republican goverment
Use to have goverment power until a Republican goverment was declared.She use to be slender ,but the Royal banquets gained pounds upon pounds on her weight. She also bore 7 children. And 2 more twin set. Has a particularly soft spot to her sons and little kids. yet also like loves to be with her baby girls as well . despite her thinking males are inferior to women with in exception to her children and her hun
princess Sophia.the first adopted into the family and the Quintanilla dynasty. She is the outgoing most adventures one. Her birth mother is the family caretaker Hellen whom we consider apart of our family. Sophia gets to have 2 official mothers. Apart of the presidents executive of her brother from the same father allowed to keep no matter what [/i]
Hellens son Jerry.Navy aviation airmen and graduate 🎓 at the navy academy Navy quarterback at cf Navy academy
Mama Hellen family caretaker Queen Valrie Quintanilla long life best freind and domestic partner traddtionally was Valerie’s lesbian Girl friend who lived together with Her daughter born from her and latter jerry . Valerie moved and decided to live righteously for God and surrounded by Godly influences influences and no longer live her sinful life.
Her 6 children born from Mama Hellen as a cucubine and servant of her master and his wife. Although Valerie Quintanilla offered her best friend a Job as her personal servant and permanent mammy to her children ,if she could respect that she is married to her husband and won’t influence her children with immorality . Hellen Refused and wanted babies of her own with (out the moral obligations of marriage) She couldn’t stand the fact her life long Girlfriend was married to a husband! Hellen finding employment as a Servant and a Voluntary cucubine to a military officer in the infantry. Unable to have children and both made the agreement that Hellen would be a concubine so they may have sons. Hellen would countiue as a servant pleaseing her master and mistress and given job experience. haveing a cucubine is against our law and is adultery nowHellen After 7 years living with her master and straighting her morals out going to church ⛪️ and taking her masters children to church Valerie and Joshua Negotiated with Hellen and she decided to END HER immorality as a cucubine . she was to be the Mammy to Quintanillas children. In exchange her master was to get promoted and transferred to the Queens personal bodyguard army regiment. so Hellen could continue to be with her children while she is happily with her best friend who both love each other in a appropriate role as best friends Often helps with the Queens dresses in hoop skirts
—————————————— her sons where her masters,but she could visit them every day and the Quintanillas pay for her education
Berry training to be a orthopedic
Gary Air Force bomber pilot grauduated air-force
Christian son is a Tank commander
Leia her Hellen’s master didn’t care to have any girls. She would allow her to belong to live Valerie Quintanilla. Leia has a very important role in the executive directory she must not have her identity well known
Patrick Studying to be a Catholic priest
Hellen’s adopted niece Kaitlyn
stout, blond girl and serves as translator for the executive goverment and personal family assistant Treated as family loved as a daughter and sister by the family.
Is given a personal tutor so she may have the best education possible and go to higher.
as a young son Hobbes always loved playing with toy solders and collected them. He had over 200 hand painted metal toy souldres and loved war history. Was a expert in strategy He was the very oldest very well acomblished in our military first married Loved by everyone in the family . Played with his brothers the most and was Hellen’s favorite of Queen 👸🏽 Valries sons. Hobbes even graduated from West Point Hobbes was the rank of captian to to his knowledge and talent when he first entered the war agianst luger . He was Colonel about to be promted to general until he was killed in the mission to kill him in the war of freedom .He was worth the kill in a pragmatic thought he was very instrumental for the russians Rossiya Osnovnyye and darny as allies Darnolia.
died in the great war against Luger hunnted specifically by special forces rangers and commandoes as he was very instrumential in the VICTORY IN THE campaign in the southern united states in Libertas Nova
Tiyaoldest yet not first adopted On the Quintanilla dynasty. Adopted from the many inner cities of areas formally from Luger along with many of the beautiful black daughters from the Same orphanage in D.C she is known for her brilliance in Government . [/u] The most political tallented of all the daughters. She is the most influntial of to the president and is apart of the presidents executive of sisters.
Valeria she is our firstborn daughter and Was the official Queen 👑👸🏽 When Tiye and Sophia to governd when she did not care to be involved in poltics Which was 93% of the time when it was a crown republic she is now president of the congress of cf Confederate farmers she often consult with her sisters sisters Tyie,Sophia, and Sybil about Goverment. She is a strong leader she just isn’t overly opinionated and she is great to work with in all respects as President of the congress it is just what she needs. Nice,charismatic socabel and born to be a politician and Nobel lady
TiyeThe Wisest of the daughters and in the executive Directory
Trinity directory of science and Tina directory of technology our adopted Black twin daughters
4 adopted brown hair daughters +++++————————-
Sybil Sarcastic,over Judgmental,grumpy , and a little bit of a mean spirited personality. She has a Jealous personality ,and the big eater of the family .She has a authoritative personality
Pros she loves her sisters and hates Crime and injustices. She is over generous to the poor and sypathyic to the people .
princess AaliyahIsn't intrested in poltics rather is a renowned Fashion designer for expensive clothing
Kadace [u]Editor of the Laffeyte City Times 📰📲
Kadace Is with her best friend Katheran who are both happily married to the same husband. Karina approved of having a extra co wife as a sister companion.
Zariaapart of the exicutie of sisters
Queen Valerie sought a good man for her daughter to Mary so she gave her and and the suitors a personality quiz and picked zaria Arranged marriage worked out well wit
Zaidee[u]Queen Valerie In provided a Arranged polgamous marriage for her daughter Zaidee to marry the richest man in all of Confederate farmersRichard banks her father chiefly concerned if she would be happy over the Arranged polgamous marriage promised to protect her. But Zaidee no matter what wanted to keep her mama happy and if she didn’t like him then she could just live with her mother who she adored. + he is sophisticated,Sweet and handsome Zaidde decided to accept the marriage and became the 3rd wife of Richard who fell in love and become the favorite And only Chief wife. The other 2 lesser wives where from poorer families
thats our family nurse with our son
ism Our son our pride and joy and people just want to be around him! both as a baby and continues as a adult he is studying to be a rabbi of the national territory or states House of prayer the 🐑🔴☦️🕊Messianic orthodox Jewish Synagogue 🕍✡️🕎 To be a rabbia of the Messianic is considered a very Honourable position in our country. He is very sweet, and devoted 🛐to God [b]Army combat badge Isim Fought in the Great Luger war was with the minute men he became a army chaplain in the Darnolia war .
only one cult wears the frumqa in reality which she isn’t apart of
Samantha Given groceries as apart of her humanitarian crusades to poor people in foreign countries. She usually wears the Frumqa it is practically a rare Jewish burqa that not even the orthodox wear . Member of the presidents executive of sisters mostly handals with foreign aid and is a missionary and humanitarian missions .wears the Frumqa because it disguises herself and to keep her warm .
Amari Her name meaning posses great strength
appointed representative of the people of the by the president she votes when she is off duty from the Army.
she has devoted much of her time and Knowledge In to martial arts training weaponry, and ,Trained particularly to kill men in war Black ops lethal assassin of our special forces and deadly killer .[/i]She Had a Russian Spetsnaz melee instructor imported from Rossiya Osnovnyye along with many instructors growin up . When it was her serve to serve in the CF military she went straight to our airborne quickly into th Rangers and latter our special forces proud sniper Khopesh her personal Hand to hand her sword weapon
her favorite weapon is the AK 47
Eshe She loves animals and nature Is a expert in zoology apart of the directory she handles environmental concerns .adopted daughter . magnum pistol is her side arm She has to carry guns for protection from her pet lion 🦁 [/u [u]She successfully taimned a zebra 🦓 a next to impossible task! Closest to Amari
Zoya in the exicutive directory
The daughters who wear coverings have disguised weapons
—————- Aasma Quintanilla personal Health minister apart of the directory of sisters ++++++++++++++…………………………
The Queen bore her Aadina and her twin sister
on the left is Aadina and on the right maya are going
almost always wear a Burga to hide her public face as a disguise and so people can pay attention to their inner self not there outer looks
Appointed by the president as Representative of the people
[the sweetest of all of my daughters and loves children the most. social worker and sociologist she believes women should be in ultra-conservative roles and always promotes the burqua she wears different Burga colors at different times.
MayaShe only wears the burqa to be closer to her sisters to please her . She prefers her miltary uniform
[IMG]She is a Olympic athlete Gold 🥇 medal. She is a diver for the confederate navy
.she is also the Presidents appointed Representatives that are not Politicians
Amari and maya speak and vote when they are off duty from the armed forces
Lavita our last daughter born in the from Valerie the former queen. Lavita surprises everyone over her intelligence and perception She is very intelligent and was the candidate for a future queen until the monarchy ended exceptional princess to Goverment ruling as Princess or queen She now apart of the government executive branch of sisters
adopted daughters from a Asian country -yoshiko 19 college student and professional musician of the flute and writer of music .
15 Naomi year training to be a consert piano player loves curl her hair in 19th Century fashion and wear hair bows and ribbons
. Imani She is a 💯 % African she has a rare genetic mutation that has her to have blue eyes [/u] shy quiet type bookworm.
Shaniqua 7 Athletic for a young age. Kimani 9 ,Jayla 10
LaShawna 8 year black girl adopted long black braids short and chubby the last adopted by Joshua and Valerie. All the young daughters love to play with their daddy
[i]Valries last born 4 year old son Brady
——————————//—————— Queen Valerie wasn’t able to bare any more children... Hellen’s adopted children
Hellen adopted children John 4 Calvin 7 (Henry 10)Thomas 9
under reasonable laws If a government could it should protect the family union from being destroyed When families are strong all are strong 💪 society and grades are strong,and happy! I support mental treatment to people that need it.
social Conservatism is only is good if the government policies work to protect the family unit from being destroyed.I don't think people are going to find such pro morality laws appealing anymore even if they could or did protect the family from being destroyed health laws are often moral laws such as no porn, street drug ban, or No prostitution, more laws to prevent stds.
Family value are dead in America and so is social conservative values. Because social conservatism is dead without a chance of revival the government should try to leave people alone as much as possible WE MUST STOP GOVERNMENT SHOVING DOWN its Socially liberal political- culture ideology and corrupted morals on our society and people from SJW I support A free French heritage Quebec With no Justin Trudeau! . I prefer pragmatism over ideology.[i]I can focus on what needs to get done first Above all else I support workers getting their Holy day off Sunday for Christians Saturday for Jews and everyone else Freedomn Of relgion
Let faith influence your politics instead of politics influencing your faith We shouldn’t combine organized relgion into poltics or Form theological/political party’s simpler to Pharisees and Sadducees.
Most importantly No such word is ever called separation between church and state ever existed in the united states constitution
Our founding fathers wanted Government out of Religion, not religion out of government and tended to respect the Judeo Christian values. But if Congress wishes to avoid any reference to a specific religion while still mentioning God then a clear separation between church and state exist. I am ok with the Judeo Christian values on government buildings particularly state and local governments as long if they are donated by the people
most importantly during the constitutional convention era all most all schools where not controlled by any government rather privately run. throughout most of America's history, public schools were controlled by local and state governments. So teaching from the bible would not violate the federal constitution. in fact, states had churches sponsored by that government after the constitution. I like dr Ron Paul’s ideas about choosing your own insurance,doctors,hospitals . We need Free markets not cronyism from corporatism .We need the coast of healthcare to go down and efficiency to rise not everyone’s taxes from
When it comes to international affairs I believe that such decisions should not be based on partisan political beliefs. Intervention or nonintervention should be decided on the wisdom of our military, international, advisory groups who are experts in handling these risky affairs. If they believe Congress should declare war then we should declare warRest in Peace Herbert Walker Bush America misss you I tend to favor intervention
Of course if the vets are not in favor or the debt then maybe it is not a good idea Ron Paul received 71% Of the souldre vote during the primary
Im for not just for a balanced budget ,but paying off the national debt By completely destroying corporate welfare,Raising the age limits for social security and cutting social security,federal Medicare and Medicaid allowing the states to handle it . Cut spending else where
I like ron Paul We is very honest ,great communicator, and very commited Sanders ideas would destroy America Bernie sanders solution isn’t the right one to solve the student loan debt . I favor Marco Rubio‘s plans of reducing college debt . and is long if we don’t take from public education I’m for it
I’m strongly for chartering efictive private education so all not just the rich be Abel go to a private school or or be homeschooled iThis would also the goverment less reliant on the Monopoly of public education
A New American Century! I supported Marco Rubio for president during the primary
I voted for Gary Johnson because he was better qualified for president Bring the election to the congress for some one liberals and conservatives could settle such as moderate John Kasich Governor of Ohio and for a great Vice President Ben Carson
I am strongly for globalism, and commercial rights
[b]I hate tariffs
I personally can’t stand Donald trump
I support Free trade to countries that don’t oppress their people
Above all else I’m pro-immigrant i am against trumps wall and border security should be handled at the state level if we are not going to have open borders. Is long if there isn’t racial profiling.
We should accept refugees escaping from oppressive dictators,civil war, and from poverty America was built on immgrants and immigration.
if a Moralist Muslim can respect woman and truly love his wife then I would not consider him or their people bad
I support a Canadian American Union to all those who favor a compromise that would benefit both nations [/
[b]I Am For open borders because of freedom and tradition Immgration not only befits the immigrants Who only wish to feed their family ’s. It helps the American economy from people not willing to work Interesting fact People from Central America and Mexico especially the Mexican Americans in 🇺🇸 tend to have a fair deal of Native American Indian blood in their ancestry. As a society we should at least look back at horrific atrocities and injustices , we did to Native born Americans . Im not a social justice warrior however Since Latinos at tend to have at mixed Native American ancestry we should let them in since they are Native to the American continents I support in Build up nations in distute,dire poverty so they become developed
The war of drugs should be about healing people instead of arresting drug users. But we should never encourage drug usage Im
not politically correct, but I try not to be offensive like Donald Trump who can’t work with people [/b]he will say anything that is on his mind
I say bring the government out of 💒 marriage and give it back to religious institutions. I say have civil unions or economic spousal packs for optional Government benefits and tax deduction eligibility’s and curses That way marriages can no longer be a political issue rather a moral individual Choice
I do not support government changing the definition of marriage.
However I am for all marriages being a private non-authoritative governmental institution but if states should provide marriage counseling programs and courtship preparations if they find it nessery to decrease divorce rates and less people on child life support
I believe civil unions or government partnerships should deal with insurance, tax deductions to individuals.
If 2 people would like to marry let this be a private affair and not apart of the government..
I'm against a blank check to partners who are not a mom and dad who want to adopt,yet We have to at least consider safety to the children. Children can simply function a whole lot better with a mommy and a daddy than without one. on a state and local level I’m for social welfare programs,education programs that can lift people out of poverty and I’m for charity !
States not the federal government should be responsible providing the general welfare there for states should be responsible so children may have a decent home
states should be given the choice if people who can’t provide a loveing dad and mommy would be qualified to adopt. It is the states responsibility to give mutual assurance that all children may find a decent family with a Momma and a papa if states belive a mother and father is they best family structure then they have the right to make sure these children have a loveing,natural, caring environment ,with a dad and mother.
If the government is going to be more liberal with our adoption standards then safety standards will go down.
regardless all adoption agencies should always prioritize offering children to to people who are a mom and dad and singl before offering to people with out a single mothers and last Leisbeins . agencies particularly religious ones should have the right not to allow their children to be given to people who can not offer a stable loving family and home of a mom and dad
Birth parents should have the right to refuse their child being brainwashed into the political/culture LGBT adoption catering agency’s.
Above all else on this topic we should not tolerate Biased LGBT Adoption catering agencies who have biased untrue statistics
[u]if 2 lesbian mother’s or a single mother can provide the same background checks as mom and dad parents and pass on paper then it should be the states choice if they should be allowed to adopt
I Do not support the government taking away from already adopted children from lesbian Mother’s who seem to be good parents on paper despite their absence of a father.
Ok 2 males can’t do the same functions of parenting because they don’t have the martinal instinct like a woman can
[u]But likely if we prefer safety standards over political catering to the L.G.B.T community pushed by Leftists Culture then we should care more about the safety of the children instead of political catering To the LGBT Agenda Adoption Has never been a right to anyone ,but a privilege. so overall I do disprove of same sex adopting but instead of being accused of being homophobic I support adoption agency's go over rigid safety standards that already is a sufficient number of same sex parents that cant adopt do to safety measures. At the end of the day, homosexuals wishing to adopt would be hurt more than helped under true safety standards not over discrimination but over parenting statistics they don’t have a mom and dad to take care of the children
Look if you are A l.G.B.Q do what ever you want is long if you are not effecting anyone. You may certainly have children through natural means though.
I am for banning the gay conversion therapy because it teaches self hatred,pseudo science and is a scam!!!
But if there was such a place that would humanly help homosexual people expand their sexual horizons to herto sexual desires or attractiveness to the opposite sex then it wouldn’t be bad. Homosexual males may be born with their desires I can’t deny that.
We have the constitution for a reason and the Supreme Court is supposed to interpret the laws not make them
Liberty over security Im strongly for the second Admendment and closing the gun show loophole as a compromise and supporting responsible gun ownership. The people have the right to form Miltia I Prefer John Lock
I am enthusiastically, devoted in state rights!I believe that social welfare programs are for states not for BIG GOVERNMENTstates should have more responsibilitys not the federal government Devolution I’m a 100% for Local governments I’m for
Confederate farmersI support some private labor unions,but I’m strongly against public sector unions
I agree closer to the libertarian party more then I lean to Republicans I agree with the libertarians around 58 percent typically 56%republican
[IMG]I support Farmers and a low tariff and I favor income tax actually.
Free silver was the central issue for Democrats in the presidential election of 1896 and that of 1900, under the leadership of William Jennings Bryan, famed I support reasonable reforms of the us populist party, and under
classical Liberal in many respects with a personality of social conservatism ,but according to i side with Quiz I’m a libertarian in American politics Im not in favor of murder called assisted suicide euthanasia
1. Human offspring are human beings, persons from conception, whether that takes place as natural or artificial fertilization, by cloning, or by any other means.
2. Abortion is homicide -- the killing of one person by another.
3. One's right to control one's own body does not allow violating the obligation not to aggress. There is never a right to kill an innocent person. Prenatally, we are all innocent persons.
4. A prenatal child has the right to be in the mother's body. Parents have no right to evict their children from the crib or from the womb and let them die. Instead both parents, the father as well as the mother, owe them support and protection from harm.
5. No government, nor any individual, has a just power to legally "de-person" any one of us, born or preborn.
6. The proper purpose of the law is to side with the innocent, not against them.
Abortion Isn't A religious or theological debate it’s a secular humanitarian right to live regardless of sex or [b] abortion if passed should be banned after the third trimester as a national law. The states should care of further bans and always prevent abortion
I actually believe a government should try to leave people alone and since society tends to change let government remain neutral to it particularly in a very diverse nation with very different views and beliefs.
the pragmatist in politics. But Jeffersonian/Jacksonian 19th. centruyState rights,Strict constructionism,Limited Government,No inflation Good money, Land expansion when possible, No Government Monopolies out of peoples taxes,l Copperhead Democrats
[ I don’t support a draft for anyone who is forced to fight in a domestic war against Americans! I usually don’t like forcing people to do things they don’t wish to do in government.
yes the Dixie dragon 🐉 must be crushed,but only constitution and democracy stand in our way!Lincoln himself was certainly honest,but he dangerously violated the counstitutional liberty’s Empire and tyrant is kinda a exaggeration. I would have advised Lincoln to do what his top general Winfield Scott belived. He proposed to surrender the southerner forts as a gesture of goodwill to the south. Lincoln actually believed in gradually emancipation to the African slaves and proposed there new home would be Liberia 🇱🇷.
[i] [i]Jefferson and Liberty too!
Democratic Party (Jacksonians)
Thomas Jefferson adopted many of the ideals of liberalism, but in the Declaration of Independence changed Locke's "life, liberty and property" to the more socially liberal "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness". As the United States grew, industry became a larger and larger part of American life; and during the term of its first populist President, Andrew Jackson, economic questions came to the forefront. The economic ideas of the Jacksonian era were almost universally the ideas of classical liberalism. Freedom was maximised when the government took a "hands-off" attitude toward the economy.
]I Honestly prefer the anti-federalist . Although the constitution is a very unique document I prefer a much more limited role in government with greater participation of the common man in democracy. The constitution has plenty of elitist aspects,but it is very stabel
I like the British U.K Independence Party.
European immigration is not the same as American immigration.
I prefer the Canadian libertarian party in Canada
I prefer republican government instead of a monarchy
in the avavenger'sivil war I side with Captian America ,because I think The avengers should not be subjected to a world government bodey . The Avengers should be a anndependent authority. I prefer captain team more anyhow
. The League of Nations meant well and so does The United Nations The current system is weak,ineffective,powerless and at anything prolongs Wars then solves them. If we are going to be subjected to a world government body then we need to put more reforms in a currently failed system. I believe in no war crimes and humanitarian mercy though. Malice to none and charity for all!
in real life Franklin was never president Of The U.S.A
Ben Franklin 1789 April-1790 April John Adams the Vice President will act as his executive secretary because Ben Franklin is at the age of 82
The successor is to be George Washington. But Vice Presidents by the counstitution are to be the successor. Franklin picked Philadelphia as the capital. This is the presidents residence
Ben Franklin was extremely good at Speedily getting legislation bills passed The best cabinet in the history of mankind
Ben Franklins accomplishments as first president of the United States. formed the executive branch’s with George Washington’s help
his most important proposals where to pay off the national debt we owed to not just foreign governments,but to the Americans people. Chartered a national university, national observatory, and the establishment of a uniform system of weights and measurements. Established a small,but professional navy of scooners and sloops. His most crowning achievements was democratization to the American Goverment system. h. Sent a letter to Lafayette Urging him to be the president of the Assembly because for
him to take the reins any of the number of times the offer was made with the argument that it's necessary for liberty to thrive in France and Washington presided over the U.S. Constitutional Convention so it's not out of order for Lafayette to take an authors give position. Ben Franklin arranged many letters and petitions encouraging him to be president of the assembly
upon Ben Franklins death
Date of death: April 17, 1790he arrives in Philadelphia
1790-1793 1st administration
Established gold and silver currency,sighned fugitive slave law returning slaves to there masters, worked on Ben franklins construction plans, set up the goverment from scratch and establishes a national bank under the compromise
, at French request, agreed to send money, arms, and provisions to Saint- Domingo
sells bonds ,securities
Washington meenwhile agrees for taxes to be raised to pay off the national debt and establishes a anti-smuggling department (coast guard) to collect the tariffs 1790-1793 all debt americas goverment are being paid River in Virginia. Devoted much of his time on the construction of the American Capital
act as president and General of the National guard was to arrest the radicals responsible for the champion of mars massacre. A Republic Goverment is formed under Lafayette and he made sure the government wouldn’t get too radical tried the king and voted not to execute him but immediately abolished the
1792 Lafayette becomes ambassador to America and prusades the American people to Allie themselves with the French brothers. Lafayette is to be the governor Of Quebec once it is French would not have intrigued against his friends Hamilton and Washington. He would, however, have urged President Washington and his cabinet - including a very sympathetic Jefferson - to consider that the former oppressor of the American colonies, George III, was part of a host of tyrants and despots organizing to take down America's only loyal ally, the French Republic. Unsuited as the United States is for war militarily or organizationally, the ideological and strategic case for war is clear. The Revolutionary War, which only ended in 1783 and in part inspired the French Revolution, is fresh in American minds. The nation is not yet sectionally split as it was by 1812 IOTL - for example, the Governor of Massachusetts in 1793 was Sam Adams of the Sons of Liberty, about as anti-British a figure as you might find.
I am assuming that the War of the First Coalition was almost inevitable after the Bastille, but preserving the monarchy could change it radically. Killing Louis XVI after a show trial and long after he had lost power was always going to leave a poor taste with most Americans. Let's say that the King is removed from power without his being executed (this should butterfly the Reign of Terror too, which is great news for both the French and for Franco-American friendship). This is still a fundamental threat to the existing European order, and war with the powers - including Britain, Spain, the Netherlands, Prussia, and Austria - is still likely to break out over the course of 1793.
Unsuited as the United States is for war militarily or organizationally, the ideological and strategic case for war is clear. The Revolutionary War, which only ended in 1783 and in part inspired the French Revolution, is fresh in American minds. The nation is not yet sectionally split as it was by 1812 IOTL - for example, the Governor of Massachusetts in 1793 was Sam Adams of the Sons of Liberty, about as anti-British a figure as you might find.
To Washington, I suspect that violating the Franco-American Treaty would be considered dishonorable. Between Robespierre and George III IOTL, neutrality seemed like a course between Scylla and Charybdis. With a more moderate France represented by Lafayette opposed by an array of monarchs led by the author of the Intolerable Acts, I believe the call to alliance would be answered. Even if not, over the next year or two British impressment and French military and political victories may begin to change the calculus. The Jay Treaty will likely be impossible in the current climate, which means the illegal British occupation of frontier fortresses in the Old Northwest (the Great Lakes region) and New York will remain a further provocation, and a source for an intolerable strategic threat: British ability to arm Indians/Native Americans with the power to block American westward settlement. From 1783 to 1790, an estimated 1,500 settlers were killed in isolated Indian attacks. Allied with the British, the Northwest Indians had formed a confederation under Little Turtle, a Miami chief, to resist American expansion.
Actual history President George Washington sided with his Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson and declared the treaty would remain in effect, despite the regime change in France. In this time line with Lafayette gathering invaluable public support George Washington decides to take the advice of his Secretary of State not to declare neutral discussions with British Minister George Hammond, Jefferson tried unsuccessfully to persuade the British to acknowledge their violation of the Treaty of Paris, to vacate their posts in the Northwest, and to compensate the U.S. for slaves whom the British had freed at the end of the war. Seeking a return to African slaves back to American plantations George Washington can’t tolerate American impressment of our sailors and and refuseal to honor the treaty . There have also been reports of British ships attacking merchant vessels. George Washington declares War on the British Monarch king George the 3rd after they declare war against the French republican Government
[IMG]Hamilton takes responsibility’s to prepare the economy for war 1
Hamilton called for federally-supervised infrastructure projects for war , the establishment of state-owned munitions factories and subsidies for privately owned factories, and the imposition of a protective tariff. Also to prepare the bank in the war effort only some of his proposals passed Elis Cotton invention receives no patent ,but we received a contract for weapon manufacturing
5 whasington preparing miltary deffences alongside them eastern seaboard and a unified defense plan of state and local governments combined with military generals
George Washington realizes we must declare war against King George the 3Rd unlike in the actual war of 1812 Jefferson didn’t severely gut the military
2 We still have plenty of American Revolutionary war veterans not just Skilled Generals but enlisted troops and officers.3 America doesn’t have divisive politics
1793-1796 defends off against the British navy from its costal defenses and thwarted a British invasion from Canada
Washington with the advice of Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson Decided to hold off the British navy at the coast. Troops from the south will be sent to Handel the Spaniards [IMG]American troops invade
Florida,Louisiana territory,as well destroying all enemy Native American Indian tribes allied with the British empire. While fighting the British redcoats and frontier rangers out west [u]soil.
The Americans Received a boast of morale after the native alliance are destroyed,British forts are taken and New Orleans is under American ownership Treaty of San Lorenzo ends all fighting between Spain,Prussia vs America and France. Treaty of Greenville
The natives are not to be worried about.
democratic Republic. 1795, 50% of the British Army was deployed in the West Indies with the largest contingent in St. Domingue with the rest of the British Army all divided between Britain, Europe, India and North America Yellow fever Pit The Younger orders no more reinforcements will be sent to the West Indies instead all remaining troops will be sent to protect the Loyalist colonies in CanadaThe troops stationed with be ordered to sent to Canada
[/i]1795 - 1798Washington
Focuses his army up north in Canada
1793-1795The British Army is being in annihilated over Yellow graver against In hati [/b]Whashinton is very successful at mustering Militiamen and troops to march up to Canada to defeat the Old Tory Governments,as well as British regulars. successfully defended against Seaborn invasions including coastal raids with militia and coastal navy to defend September 1796 the Spanish-Franco expedition naval expedition to help the Americans at sea arrive
George Washington,Alexander Hamilton,Knox, both distinguished themselves fighting while they are still apart of George Washingtons cabinet leaders[u] to conduct warfare easier New York City is now the capital with Thomas Jefferson conducting foreign affairs in New York City and John Adams handling administration George Washington leading his troops on the battle field
George Washington Inspires many people who are reluctant to participate in the war at all to
[b]President Charles Cotesworth Pinckney [u]1797-1800
Succeser to the George Washington . [b]Lead the American war effort agianst Britain 1797-1798
(1799-1800 peace sighned peace treaties throughout Europe Europe's nations.canceld the Franco American alliance 2nd American Revolutionary war [/b]lowered the tarif for the merchant ships and helped revive American commerce by refunding merchant ships so new England and the coastal cities may heal from the devastating war. Passed a few internal improvements for ports habors for the costal cities
kept taxes as high as possible so the nation's debt should be as low as possible. [u]Congress charterd a government monopoly to participate in the Atlantic slave trade expired in 1808. what ended the federalist was using the Alien sedition act as a political tool against the Jeffersonians. The Whiskey and fries rebellion further hurt the federalist cause Canceld the Franco American 1778 treaty’s sighned a Commercial defense alliance for American ships no impressment allowed
Jefferson and Liberty too!1801-1808Thomas Jefferson man of the people both in policy and in styleJefferson greatly reduced the power of federal governments where the people have less direct representation people have a say then in than a elitist centralized government in Congress . Increased state state rights ,as well as reducing government spending. As government deficits remained to be in reduction tax became low including as government becomes small. Jefferson restored Americas Freedom's by repealing the alien sedition acts and restoring our traditional permeant liberty Americans cherish. [u]as America remained in peace Jefferson sought for America not to be involved in foreign entanglement's and sought peace, and neutrality among the European powers. 1801-1807 America profited greatly from trade between Britain and France prior till 1808.the British discontinued the impressment ban. France and the united kingdom k discontinued our special trade treaties ] 1807-1808 embargo. Jefferson funded several explorations Red River Expedition (1806) and Pike expedition.
Barbary war 1801-1805
he also funded West Point . Our miltary is stripped to the bone.
James Madison 1809-1816reinstated Jefferson's policy's of limted goverment state rights. further lowered taxes and spending. kept America out of the war by agreeing to Britain ending impressment and protecting American ships that trade with Britain. further reducing government spending.
James Monroe 1816-1824countered
Constructed forts across the eastern seaboard and increased the army corps of engineers to help improve internal improvements from the army corps of engineers[u]vetoed unconstitutional wasteful federal improvement programs goverment reduces debt during peace a balanced budget during war.
[/u]Congress ordered to strengthen the American military particularly the navy John C Calhoun Secretary of war relocating Indians out west. Trade expanded for The United States 🇺🇸
AppointedHenry clay as Secretary of State. In foreign policy, Clay was the leading American supporter of independence movements and revolutions in Latin America after 1817.
Clay frequently called on the Monroe administration to recognize these republics Under Henry clays authority The United States 🇺🇸 encourages the Revolutionary’s by letting merchant vessels trade weapons to the Revolutionary’s and offers letters of Marquee against Spain 🇪🇸 Trade expanded during this time period
Eventually tensions become too high and Spain and America find themselves at war 1818-1821 Congress declares war on the Spanish empire He orders even more ships and marines in the war effort against tranny 1821 Britain and America agreed to a joint effort to help the free republics against Spanish tyranny. 1822- 1824Hattie sends weapons to slaves and grants runaways safety eventually war gradually a breaks out
Spanish Haiti(Dominican Republic),California’s,Texas,Chihuahua,Sonora,New Mexico, 1821- 1825send the fleet to help the Greek Revolutionary's against the tyrannical Ottoman Empire. Previously Jackson became a national war hero fighting Indians Spanish royalist and putting down slave revolts in Spanish Haiti
Willam H Crawford 1825-1828Recharterd the national bank. paid of all most all the national debt off continuing state rights expansion with no big government.
[u]Appointed a Strict Constructionist to the Supreme Court crawfod Vetoed most of the internal improvement bills, ifthey either spent too much money or it violated state rights.Avoided the tariff abomination by having a low tariff of revenue only in 1826 American delegation is sent to the Congress of Panama discussing a unified South America nation. Successfully set up alliances against Spain. Gave plenty of aide to American colonization society increased the Navy and helped destroy piracy and the slave trade
Haiti American war 1824-1828 spent large sums of money to fight against the Haitians and successfully unified the island granted citizenship to all of the 5 civilized American Indian tribes Native American Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek (Muscogee), and Seminole. The deal was a good portion would be paid to move to lands west of the Mississippi river where they may form there own governments while receiving government money. The rest would stay in the east
Trade flourished during his presidency due to the invention of the Cotton gin
Andrew Jackson first man of the common people as President 1829-1836Indian removal to remaining tribes that are not citizens, Sound Good Money 💰 Back in gold and silver, state rights expanded the spoil system Fought to destroy the national bank With Calhoun out of the way and him believing in low tariffs ,he is against protectionism Sent Navy fleets to stop piracy and protect commerce vetoed 20 bills either about the bank or wasteful improvements or protecting the common people ole Hickory
destroyed the government monopoly the U.S national bank [/b] further vetoed some internal improvement bills. Reformed administration roles. 1836 had issued a Specie Circular requiring that lands be purchased with hard money–gold or silver.
1837-1840 Martian Van Buren finished off Jackson’s policies of Sound Good money backed in gold and silver, Completed the destruction of the national bank, independent treasury complete. Finished expanding the spoil System Also completed a naval exploration voyage to Antarctica that Jackson desired proving the continent exist all bank payments have to be paid in gold or silver. As President Van buren Meet the Canadian border disputes with tact and finished up Indian removal. Stopped funding internal improvements and vetoed relating bills
, Harrison and Crockett, too! William Henry Harrison Famous 1 month presidency
Davy Crockett 1840-1844 King of the wild frontier and hero of the poorresurrected the national bank to improve the economy for Confederate farmers vetoed the protective tariffs of henry clay and some internal improvement bills made federal land dirt cheap enough for small impoverished settlers to buy.
Squatter have the right to buy small tracts of land to feed their family Lifted the settlement ban in territory’s West Of Arkansa and Missouri if the ended the Seminole Warmade sure that justice would never be perverted to native american indians or latinos and that no one would be unjustly evicted from their land.
reformed the civil service system,sought the best people regardless of partisan beliefs
davy ended Indian removal set up an Indian policy for Indians to accept U.S government authority under reasonable assimilation plans of presidents before Jackson. They May have citizenship rather than be treated as wards of the state or they may be treated as separate nations set up a designated territory state for natives American Indians they will be left alone under there own laws State of Sequoyah encouraged missionaries to the Native American tribes as apart of assimilation seismic shift in approach to treatment of Native Americans happens under president Crocket. Annexed Liberia as a free territory. He signed a counstitutional admendment limiting the president to 2 terms. 8 year presidential limit if the 2 where because of being Vice President, reformed the civil service system. Kept a independent treasurey plan The Exchequer Plan would establish a government agency overseen by presidential appointees that would store government funds and issue banknotes. Also established a presidential appointees to overseeing justice to Native American Indians and minority’s out west first president to visit out west
John Tyler 1845-1852 Vice President George Dallas then Texas became a state which legally allowed slavery. Funed naval exploration voyages
Established American free trade treatys to many country’s .expanded our influence in Asia opened up Japan, and began the process of our influence in Hawaii. Bought the us Virgin Islands 🇻🇮 From Denmark 🇩🇰. Helped further reduce the spoil system in government .
Built up the American naval forces and army while maintaining a balance budget . Vetoed public internal spending countinued lowering the debt . Aggressively Countiued Indian assimilation policy . finished destroying the National bank
1847-1851 Cuban American war
1853-1856 allowed the settlers out West to determine if slaves will be permitted or not. Oregon,California, Minnesota, Washington territory as well as New Mexico territory where voted as free soil territory’s and states by the settlers. Utah territory has voted 🗳 in favor of slavery. Sighned the Fugitive slave law to Blacks who could prove their free are to be relocated to the free territory of Liberia 🇱🇷. The slave trade ,but not slavery itself will be Banned in Washington DC. The southerner private military expansionist receive equipment and supplies to help them. A transcontinental railway is agreed it will be established from Southern California to New Orleans sighned a few internal improvement bills to help cuba 🇨🇺 be happy in the union. Began the Central American war 1856-1859 Kansas Nebraska act
1857-1864[u]His children don’t die and as a result is a much stronger president and he doesn’t even become president tell a much later time Reforms the civil system Southern California is made a separate slave state He counstructs he trans continental railway from southern California to Texas. Vetoed every other non military spending bill.The golden cirlcle drags amerincans into the columbian Venszulian American war 1860-1863toiled at his work keeping a united country and political party from civil war. Although he did not fully stop the Civil War He did much from making American division from getting worse. He surrendered the southern forts as a gensture Of Peace to the south at the end of his administration
Abe Lincoln 1865-1872 Established a protective tariff to encourage industry,made Liberia into a free Egual state for African Americans, Banned slavery In all territories not states. Gave federal funding to Liberia for African American settlements,
Those nordic countries also have populations smaller than 25 million pop lol. Nice argument :P
But what do they have to show for it? Nothing that an equivalent country with a laissez faire economic system does not.
I never said that china was a paragon of economic freedom, I simply pointed that there is a strong link between the increase of economic freedom in China and their growth in almost all aspects.
Also I never used GDP as a measurment at all, I used HDI, the single best index available for working out how good somewhere is to live.
Basically, everything you said was dumb.
Fine. Neither of our systems work in a larger-scale economy.
Actually they do have something to show for it. For basically the same per capita/average income as those laissez-faire countries, they have less poverty. Oh were you referencing Hong Kong earlier? Well, 200,000 people live in spaces which can only fit a bed in them (apartments which are illegally divided and rented out). And 300,000 are live-in maids who can only visit their families once in a year. Show me something like that in Norway. Before you ask for my sources, I used the BBC documentary series "World's Biggest Cities".
And speaking of laissez-faire, both Hayek and Friedman stated that the government had a role to play in development and taking care of society. Hayek even stated that the government should provide healthcare.
Growth fueled by debt is... umm... yeah. Are you saying that Trump was richer when he was billions in debt just because he owned a few real estate ventures? And at what cost is the growth? A protectionist system which means that the biggest companies are simply indirectly controlled by the CCP. If India decided to do the same, we could grow at a way faster pace than we are right now. When inevitably foreign competition comes in, all the companies (Alibaba, Tencent, Baidu) are going to be screwed.
I'm genuinely confused here... You can't defend China and then say that you use HDI. Like actually, are we even talking about the same HDI? I'm talking about the one ran by the UN Development Program, not by the CCP lmao
Hong Kong and Singapore are only in the top 10 because they are on prime real estate and in Hong Kong's care, because they had a chance to grow a long time ago.
I think the same way about what you're saying.