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As a citizen of the FNR, I am extremely disappointed with the conduct of this vote and request for the FNR to join. No one at all in our region was informed that we were supposedly requesting to join FORGE, and indeed I was only made aware of this vote through the casual mention of another member. This request if I'm not mistaken was made by our founder, Crystalsummer, who constitutionally is not a part of the government and has no official bearing. Even when I asked our president, he said he had no idea this vote was going on.

FNR has recently been trying to draw out of interregional organisations, and yet out founder thinks he can go around authorising whatever he wants. His word does not mean anything as he does not represent the FNR.

According to the Free Nations Region Constitution, the Legislature of our region is the only one authorised to pass treaties, and the executive (President) is the only one allowed to make and negotiate them. As the President was entirely unaware of this request and the Legislature hadn't voted on anything, this request for the FNR to join FORGE is very clearly illegal.

As such, I request that the vote be deleted immediately.

Thank you.

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As a citizen of the FNR, I am extremely disappointed with the conduct of this vote and request for the FNR to join. No one at all in our region was informed that we were supposedly requesting to join FORGE, and indeed I was only made aware of this vote through the casual mention of another member. This request if I'm not mistaken was made by our founder, Crystalsummer, who constitutionally is not a part of the government and has no official bearing. Even when I asked our president, he said he had no idea this vote was going on.
FNR has recently been trying to draw out of interregional organisations, and yet out founder thinks he can go around authorising whatever he wants. His word does not mean anything as he does not represent the FNR.
According to the Free Nations Region Constitution, the Legislature of our region is the only one authorised to pass treaties, and the executive (President) is the only one allowed to make and negotiate them. As the President was entirely unaware of this request and the Legislature hadn't voted on anything, this request for the FNR to join FORGE is very clearly illegal.
As such, I request that the vote be deleted immediately.
Thank you.

As Chancellor of FORGE, I apologise for the confusion.

I can confirm that Crystalsummer has made this request and that he did not make us aware of these constitutional provisions.

I hereby declare this vote illegal and furthermore will remove this poll. Once again, on behalf of everyone at FORGR, I will apologise for this horrible mess!

Kind Regards,
Zion Imperium
Chancellor of FORGE and Prime Minister of the Union of Democratic States

Miravana wrote:

This again should be an issue that if a rep votes no their nation does not have to receive the telegrams.

We're talking about all nations in all member regions here though, not just the Representatives.

American grand eagle wrote:

If I receive a telegram I will not be happy. :P

Why? FORGE is a great cause! 😛

American grand eagle wrote:

Errrrr..... Let's just say.... I am holding a big grudge against the former leader for making the worst move ever... hence the reason why I left FORGE :P

Ahh Gatcha! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Miravana wrote:

yes but if a region does not wish for these TGs then they should not be sent to that region

If a region doesn't want to know anything about FORGE, why would it have joined in the first place?

American grand eagle wrote:

Errrrr..... Let's just say.... I am holding a big grudge against the former leader for making the worst move ever... hence the reason why I left FORGE :P

And what did he do?

Miravana wrote:

It's not that, It is about privacy. You are suggesting sending a very massive TG series to every nation and some regions might find that as in invasion of their privacy. At the very least ask any region who says no if they are comfortable with the telegrams being sent out.

I honestly don't see why this is an issue of privacy. Sure it might be a bit of a hassle to have unwanted telegrams in your inbox, but you can just delete them or block the sender. And it'd be great to inform our nations about what we're doing. They are in our alliance after all, and their region probably voted to join us.

American grand eagle wrote:

Don't worry about it. It's between me and him

Ok