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Wait so Durrnil left?

Post self-deleted by The new mexican confederation.

The new mexican confederation

Propheto primanea wrote:Wait so Durrnil left?

Never mind he did leave to 10000 islands

Propheto primanea

The new mexican confederation wrote:Never mind he did leave to 10000 islands

I interpret 10000 islands as our rival so that is ummm... how do I word this

New skandenivia

After some solid sleuthing trying to find Dizgovzy’s YT I am proud to inform you that...

I didn’t find it but his name doesn’t start with A or E, and he doesn’t have a middle name.

Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire and The new mexican confederation

The new mexican confederation wrote:I don’t wanna be rude but I once again ask, give me a preferable alternative, and there’s nothing wrong with working to earn your pay.

Mixed economy. And working to earn a pay is okay, as long as refelcts your productivity. I'm not incentivated in working if my salary stay the same way through years, I'll just work the bare essential to not get fired or to get a promotion (for workplaces that have meritocracy)

Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire and The new mexican confederation

Post self-deleted by The new mexican confederation.

Einswenn wrote:snip

Laver Island wrote:snap

Plagiarism alert

Istantine

San guglielmo

The new mexican confederation wrote:Then what’s your solution?
No system is perfect but so far this one seems to be working okay. Exploitation will always happen it isn’t something that can just disappear overnight with a change or reform.

Workers' management is the solution. And not state ownership. That is forgoing one tyranny for another.

Propheto primanea wrote:I interpret 10000 islands as our rival so that is ummm... how do I word this

We don't really have rivals. Besides, the 10000 Islands is one or our friend regions.

Einswenn, Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire, Yahlia, St Scarlett, and 4 othersLibertandonien, New skandenivia, The new mexican confederation, and Istantine

The new mexican confederation

San guglielmo wrote:Workers' management is the solution. And not state ownership. That is forgoing one tyranny for another.

Explain how workers management is free from being exploited or prevents inequality.

Le vichy france

The new mexican confederation wrote:
Then what’s your solution?
No system is perfect but so far this one seems to be working okay. Exploitation will always happen it isn’t something that can just disappear overnight with a change or reform.

My solution is a council of workers and a council of owners to sort out any disputes in the government. It also makes cooperation easier

The new mexican confederation

Le vichy france wrote:My solution is a council of workers and a council of owners to sort out any disputes in the government. It also makes cooperation easier

Until it gets corrupted, abused and becomes a one party council/state

Le vichy france

Le vichy france

The new mexican confederation wrote:
Until it gets corrupted, abused and becomes a one party council/state

Oh no there is a council above it that governs both, allowing both to be unregulated could never work

The new mexican confederation

Le vichy france wrote:Oh no there is a council above it that governs both, allowing both to be unregulated could never work

Won’t the above council just manipulate both worker and owner councils to fulfill their goals and destroy opposition.

Scfirelienen

me:think about being founder
also me:snap back to reality
you may obtain new memes at 11:11 pm just wish

San guglielmo

The new mexican confederation wrote:Explain how workers management is free from being exploited or prevents inequality.

Elected councils of workers, with recall of those delegates whom workers deem unrepresentative of their interests.

The new mexican confederation

San guglielmo wrote:Elected councils of workers, with recall of those delegates whom workers deem unrepresentative of their interests.

Still way too experimental and radical to work in today’s world. It’s these “councils” that barely make change and only open up power vacuums

Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire

The new mexican confederation wrote:I don’t wanna be rude but I once again ask, give me a preferable alternative, and there’s nothing wrong with working to earn your pay.

The fact that you're saying this tells me that you didn't read what I said.

The new mexican confederation wrote:Until it gets corrupted, abused and becomes a one party council/state

Because that's what happens in elected parliaments/congresses, right guys?

A body comprised of elected workers would be no different from a parliament except in giving the working class more of a say.

Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire

I'm not saying that San guglielmo is right, but I am saying that capitalism isn't as great as one might believe.

The new mexican confederation

Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire wrote:I'm not saying that [nation]San Guglielmo[/natio] is right, but I am saying that capitalism isn't as great as one might believe.

I never said it was great nor that I like it, I’m saying that despite its flaws it’s probably the best system we have that has been shown to consistently work. A lot of the solutions here are far too experimental and call for too much change in such a small window of time.

Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire

The new mexican confederation wrote:I never said it was great nor that I like it, I’m saying that despite its flaws it’s probably the best system we have that has been shown to consistently work. A lot of the solutions here are far too experimental and call for too much change in such a small window of time.

Just because a system is "the best" doesn't mean a system doesn't have problems. The obvious solution to capitalism is to reform it to be more humane and less exploitative. Don't destroy the machinery, rather refine it over time.

Renway and The new mexican confederation

The new mexican confederation

Sicilian imperial-capitalist empire wrote:Just because a system is "the best" doesn't mean a system doesn't have problems. The obvious solution to capitalism is to reform it to be more humane and less exploitative. Don't destroy the machinery, rather refine it over time.

I said in my statement that it does have flaws like every other system on earth, and I am all for reform, my main point in all of this is that reforms could work, however replacing the capitalist system with another one always leads to disaster. You can’t give a man a seed and expect a tree the next day.

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Hi, Changed my map, so I had to update this

United engiresco, Noristoniaka, and Istantine

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