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Well, it is a fact that mosques have been attacked. There is a risk of futire attacks, especially in a country where Islamophobia runs rampant. And it's also a fact that protection can prevent future attacks
Therefore, saying they don't need protection is tantamount to saying future attacks might as well happen.
(Also, you already know that. I am adding this explanation for the benefit of anyone not adept in spotting the tactics.)
It's criticising the modern Islamic religion of being outdated and incompatible.
And yes, Christianity is also incompatible. I'm a secularist.
No, it really isn't. You're just reaching for any reason to rage and fume over this.
How tf is it a reach to say taking down a shield to something opens it up to an attack?
Bigots are always so frustratingly bad faith.
Please leave, nobody wants you here.
I hope you are aware that if mosques are not protected innocent people in places like Gaza could die due to attacks
I still love the misplaced confidence and smugness on the person who still supports the Tories when even the Tories don’t support them anymore.
Because you didn't just say that, did you? You said that I had spoken out in favour of attacks happening.
That's kind of the point I was making in the first place....
If you condone taking down the shield you’re in favour of the attack.
Again, stop being bad faith. It doesn’t matter what you do or don’t say what you imply is crystal clear.
honestly this whole hate crime against muslims and Islam makes no sense. We get so much stuff from the middle east and the surrounding areas. Honestly imo humanity probably wouldn’t have gotten this far with out them.
No, that's what you're saying, not what I'm saying. It's not implied at all.
Ok, well that was never in question.
If you knock the shield out of someone’s hand before they get shot, you don’t have to say “I want them to get shot” to be in favour of them being shot.
If you take away the protection of a mosque before it gets attacked, you don’t have to say “I want it to be attacked” to be in favour of it being attacked.
It’s not complicated.
And even if not, people don't deserve to get hatecrimed even if they did not benefit the societal majority in any way
But there's not a certainty that a Mosque will be attacked. Synagogues are far more at risk since the start of the Israel-Hamas war.
For some reason, I think you'd disagree if some proposed arming US teachers to defend against shooters, and if I were anything like you, I'd start hysterically shrieking about how you're in favour of school shootings. But that's an argument for another time.
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It doesn’t have to be certain, it’s still very likely.
Both should be protected
And no, weirdly enough I don’t think the solution to school shootings is more guns in schools.
It's not like it's either synagogues or mosques that can have protection. Both can and should if there's a risk (which there is).
The absurdity of arming teachers is that a) that's not a teacher's but law enforcement's job and b) near none of it would be necessary with a normal gun policy. Also, nice strawman you built there.
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"Hm, well this clearly means you WANT more schools shootings to occur".
This is the type of hysterical nonsense you've been shrieking for the past page-and-a-half.
Considering reports how much Gaza has been bombed and destroyed and barely any reports on Israel being attacked I highly doubt Synagogues are at more risk of attack. In fact i think it is the other way around i think Mosque are at more risk of being attacked
Not comparable, take your bad faith bigotry somewhere else it’s not welcome here.
Well we should be careful with making blanket statements; at least here, following 7.10., synagogues were attacked in high numbers. Since we were talking about a western country (the UK), I guess that's the metric we should apply to the discussion.
having more guns in schools is going to let people who want to shoot up a school be less likely to be arrested for having a gun before it’s too late
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