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The Bunkaiian numbering system
tuho 0
eki 1
doa 2
sele 3
corā 4
pāni 5
shena 6
fāte 7
hāšā 8
nuvi 9
diha A (10)
sife B (11)
bārā 10 (12)
bāreki 11 (13)
bāridoa 12 (14)
bārisele 13 (15)
bāricorā 14 (16)
bāripāni 15 (17)
bārishena 16 (18)
bārifāte 17 (19)
bārihāsha 18 (20)
bārinuvi 19 (21)
bāridiha 1A (22)
bārisife 1B (23)
dobārā 20 (24)
dobāreki 21 (25)
sibārisife BB (143)

Kuerhyedeenistan and Nijevla

Linessia

Nijevla wrote:I wanted an interesting counting system in Jevlanná where the speaker can adjust numbers over 10 by himself, like this:

Jam - 1
Dviũi- 2
Na- 3
Ene- 4
Pijé- 5
Sas- 6
Vina- 7
Osam- 8
Jadév- 9
Kũva- 10

Kũva'jam/jadév'na/sas'sas/dviũi'na'pijé'dviũi (and more)- 12

With the word "ini" (multiply) you're able to address 20 as kũva'ini'dviũi or maybe jadév'ini'dviũi'dviũi (9x2+2)

I just got bored and wanted to think outside of the box. I find this extremely confusing and unnecessary myself so I'm not sure whatever to use this system or not.

Нёх ард а дунт, этске

This is horrifying, I'm sorry

Kowani wrote:n
no

Agreed no

Linessia wrote:Нёх ард а дунт, этске

This is horrifying, I'm sorry

Georgian is worse, but that is guaranteed a bit creepy

Nijevla

Oćo- 0
Jam - 1
Dviũi- 2
Na- 3
Sũm- 4
Pajé- 5
Sas- 6
Vina- 7
Osam- 8
Jadév- 9
Kũva- 10

Kũva'ili'jam- 11
Kũva'ili'dviũi- 12
Kũva'ili'na- 13
Kũva'ili'sũm- 14
Kũva'ili'pajé- 15
Kũva'ili'sas- 16
Kũva'ili'vina- 17
Kũva'ili'osam- 18
Kũva'ili'jadév- 19
Oćodviũi- 20
Oćodviũi'ili'jam- 21

Nan- 100
Baba- 1000
Syna- 10000
Sũkom- 100000
Ogi- 1000000

Dviũibaba'sũmnan'oćopajé'ili'pajé- 2455 (2x1000, 4x100, 50+5)

Way better and way easier and much less confusing 😌
What do you think? (I did conlanging for a while but I'm not into the rules so... that complicates things)

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Nijevla wrote:Oćo- 0
Jam - 1
Dviũi- 2
Na- 3
Sũm- 4
Pajé- 5
Sas- 6
Vina- 7
Osam- 8
Jadév- 9
Kũva- 10

Kũva'ili'jam- 11
Kũva'ili'dviũi- 12
Kũva'ili'na- 13
Kũva'ili'sũm- 14
Kũva'ili'pajé- 15
Kũva'ili'sas- 16
Kũva'ili'vina- 17
Kũva'ili'osam- 18
Kũva'ili'jadév- 19
Oćodviũi- 20
Oćodviũi'ili'jam- 21

Nan- 100
Baba- 1000
Syna- 10000
Sũkom- 100000
Ogi- 1000000

Dviũibaba'sũmnan'oćopajé'ili'pajé- 2455 (2x1000, 4x100, 50+5)

Way better and way easier and much less confusing 😌
What do you think? (I did conlanging for a while but I'm not into the rules so... that complicates things)

O ne...

Nijevla

-Astoria- wrote:O ne...

But not worse, right?

Nijevla wrote:Oćo- 0
Jam - 1
Dviũi- 2
Na- 3
Sũm- 4
Pajé- 5
Sas- 6
Vina- 7
Osam- 8
Jadév- 9
Kũva- 10

Kũva'ili'jam- 11
Kũva'ili'dviũi- 12
Kũva'ili'na- 13
Kũva'ili'sũm- 14
Kũva'ili'pajé- 15
Kũva'ili'sas- 16
Kũva'ili'vina- 17
Kũva'ili'osam- 18
Kũva'ili'jadév- 19
Oćodviũi- 20
Oćodviũi'ili'jam- 21

Nan- 100
Baba- 1000
Syna- 10000
Sũkom- 100000
Ogi- 1000000

Dviũibaba'sũmnan'oćopajé'ili'pajé- 2455 (2x1000, 4x100, 50+5)

Way better and way easier and much less confusing 😌
What do you think? (I did conlanging for a while but I'm not into the rules so... that complicates things)

Acruan counting:
to - one
klo - two
bro - three
dvo - four
go - five
mof - six
dor - seven
kod - eight
lor - nine
te - ten

teto - eleven
teklo - twelve
kle - twintig
bre - thirty
dve - fourty
ge - fifty
mef - sixty
der - seventy
ked - eighty
ler - ninety
ta - one houndred
tu - one thousend
tetu - ten thousand
tatu - one houndred thousand

kludvagego - 2455

(people on Discord might have already seen this one)

Acrua wrote:Acruan counting:
to - one
klo - two
bro - three
dvo - four
go - five
mof - six
dor - seven
kod - eight
lor - nine
te - ten

teto - eleven
teklo - twelve
kle - twintig
bre - thirty
dve - fourty
ge - fifty
mef - sixty
der - seventy
ked - eighty
ler - ninety
ta - one houndred
tu - one thousend
tetu - ten thousand
tatu - one houndred thousand

kludvagego - 2455

(people on Discord might have already seen this one)

I like three, he's my bro. Ok to not mess around, I like it, you know your numbers 😊

Linessia

Nijevla wrote:But not worse, right?

Пакїыкїрохт а...
Not worse...

1: ni
2: tem
3: trķ
4: cér
5: nos
6: soa
7: cale
8: dyan
9: seln
10: tald
11: tald-ir-ni
20: temtald

100: colef
101: colefni
200: temcolef

1,000: sáet
1,001: sáetni

10,000: taldsáet
100,000: colefsáet

million: miliķ
ten million: taldmiliķ
hundred million: colefmiliķ

billion: biliķ
ten billion: taldbiliķ
hundred billion: colefbiliķ

trillion: triliķ

2,255: temsáet temcolef nostald-ir-nos

Collinese numerals:

0 - ûz
1 - ę (ęx among older speakers)
2 - du
3 - riz
4 - cad
5 - bez
6 - seş
7 - ebad
8 - oşt
9 - na (nax among older speakers)
10 - da (dax among older speakers)
Much of the 'breathy voice' vowels are being lost in newer dialects
11 - ezda
12 - dazda
13 - rizda
14 - carda
15 - bezda
16 - sezda
17 - ebarda
18 - ozda
19 - nada
20 - duyî
21 - duyî u ę
30 - riyî
40 - cardî
50 - bezdî
60 - seştî
70 - ebadî
80 - ozdî
90 - naştî

100 - şat
101 - şat u ę
200 - du şat

1000 - azar
1001 - azar u ę
2000 - du azar
10,000 - daştar
100,000 - şat azar

146,245 - şat cardî u seş azar du şat cardî u bez

Numbers, eh? I like numbers. :D

Kuerhyét's got a limited gendered/noun-classed number system.

# - general / diminutive / human
1 - vue / veni / min
2 - poa / peni / äte
3 - nie / neni / sie
4 - ätae / teni / tie
5 - manae / mani
6 - ämie / ämi
8 - äpie / äpi
8 - isie / isi
9 - kaiku / käki
10 - kukie / kuku
11 - kuk-ti-yue
12 - kuk-ti-poa
13 - kuk-ti-nie
14 - kuk-ti-ätae
15 - kuk-ti-manae
16 - kuk-ti-ämie
17 - kuk-ti-äpie
18 - kuk-ti-isie
19 - kuk-ti-kaiku
20 - penkukie
21 - penkuk-ti-vue

More info:

CARDINAL NUMERALS

In Kuerhyét there are three sets of low level cardinal numbers; General, Diminutive and Human.

#

[b]General

Diminutive

Human[/b]

1

vue

veni

min

2

poa

peni

äte

3

nie

neni

sie

4

ätae

teni

tie

5

manae

mani

6

ämie

ämi

7

äpie

äpi

8

isie

isi

9

kaiku

käki

10

kukie

kuku


Human numerals
Min, äte, sie, tie.

The human numerals, as the name implies, are used when talking about human referents, except when talking about babies or if you want to emphasise that someone is really small (which obviously is not a very polite thing to do), when you need to use the diminutive numerals. There are only four human numerals. Everything above four uses general numerals.

Sie nyca - three women
Nie causa - three birds
Äte kihima - Two men
Äpie kihima - seven men
Peni duilín - two babies

Diminutive numerals
Veni, peni, neni, teni, mani, ämi, äpi, isi, käki, kuku.

Diminutive numerals are used when talking about small things; for instance pebbles, mice, strands of hair, units of time less than a day (minutes, seconds, hours) as well as babies as mentioned above. It is also used as a means to emphasise that something is smaller than its usual size, like for instance:
Kukuendie tacie neni duolie innu - I'll have three small beers please.
Kukuendie tacie nie duolie innu - I'll have three beers please.

It is also quite common to use diminutive numerals when counting without a reference, and children usually learn first to count in diminutive as it is considered easier.

General numerals
Vue, poa, nie, ätae, manae, ämie, äpie, isie, kaiku, kukie .

General numerals is the "all else" counting set, and is used for talking about everything not covered by human or diminutive, as well as the most common way to count without a reference.

Numerals above ten.
There is only one numeral set employed above ten, which corresponds to the general set. The highest order comes first with lower orders in decreasing order. Additives are bound with -ti-.

10 - 19:
11 - kuk-ti-yue
12 - kuk-ti-poa
13 - kuk-ti-nie
14 - kuk-ti-ätae
15 - kuk-ti-manae
16 - kuk-ti-ämie
17 - kuk-ti-äpie
18 - kuk-ti-isie
19 - kuk-ti-kaiku

Multiplies is a reduced form of the diminutive numeral, which preceed the order.

Orders of ten:
20 - penkukie
30 - nenkukie
40 - tenkukie
50 - mankukie
60 - ämkukie
70 - äpkukie
80 - iskukie
90 - käkukie

With additives, the -kukie (10) form is reduced to kuk:
76 - äpkuk-ti-ämie
.

Hundreds, thousands and above
Construction of higher numbers work in the exact same way, with new terms every order of hundred instead of every thousand as is common in modern european languages:
100 - mieyo
103 - miey-ti-nie
906 - kämiey-ti-ämie
1 000 - kukmieyo (ten hundred)
1 001 - kukmiey-ti-vue
5 000 - mankukmieyo
9 999 - käkuk-ti-kämiey-ti-käkuk-ti-kaiku
10 000 - miapa
1 000 000 - kimaya (one million)
100 000 000 - pinaya
10 000 000 000 - nimaya



ORDINAL NUMERALS
Ordinal numerals are created with the circumfix ma(n/m)- -m on the general numeral with a special form on 1st:
1st - meam
2nd - mapoam
3d -maniem
4th - manätaem
5th - mamanaem
6th - manämiem
7th - manäpiem
8th - manisiem
9th - makaikum
10th - makukiem
999th - makämiey-ti-käkuk-ti-kaiukum



FRACTIONAL NUMERALS
The circumfix in(/m)- -ni creates fractional numerals:
innieni - (one) third
impoani - (one) half
äpie inkukieni - seven tenths
nie immieyoni - three hundreths (3 %)



DISTRIBUTIVE NUMERALS
The circumfix in(/m)- -s creates distributive numerals:
Tuo jiemem inisis kura! - we get eight nuts each!
Read factbook

The numeral system of Inna is decimal, with the ordinal numbers being the basic forms from which cardinal, distributive and fractional numbers are derived. (This concept was inspired by one of Aurunas ancestral languages. Was it Aruzhin?)
When counting (with or without referent) the cardinal numbers are also used.

Ordinal numbers:
1st - alə
2nd - ətti
3rd - neni
4th - manəs
5th - mana
6th - əδen
7th - punu
8th - iδu
9th - kəkəs
10th - kəku

Cardinal numbers, with the exception of 1 are derived by suffixing -mə up to and including 4, and -(n)i for numbers above 4:
1 - ma
2 - əttimə
3 - nenimə
4 - manəsmə
5 - manani
6 - əδeni
7 - pununi
8 - iδuni
9 - kəkəsi
10 - kəkuni

I haven't worked on higher numbers yet

Sāsjki's got an (IMO) interesting mix of (native) Saami-derived and borrowed Scandinavian numbers.

1 - otta
2 - gōte
3 - gulbe
4 - nilla
5 - bīta
6 - setta
7 - sami
8 - edne
9 - nabe
10 - lōhi
11 - lojatta
12 - lojōte
13 - loja gulbe
14 - loja nilla
15 - loja bīta
16 - loja setta
17 - loja sami
18 - loja edne
19 - loja nabe
20 - gōlohi
21 - gōlohi jatta
22 - gōlohi jōte

Also, I see some new nations posting here!

Hielenu edin, i hudie hun is Dieju ye Nejäthyetes! :)
Hello to you, and welcome to the Council of Constructed Languages! :)

Linessia wrote:Пакїыкїрохт а...
Not worse...

purra algo?
could anything be?

Linessia

Oh? We're doing numbers?

Standard Aurun
Zero - Zon
One - Ras / Üka
Two - Duva / Tö
Three - Tri / Kolma
Four - Nela
Five - Vis
Six - Kuun
Seven - Setän
Eight - Akten
Nine - Sänne
Ten - Dektä
Eleven - Ükandektä
Twelve - Töndektä
Thirteen - Trinendektä
Fourteen - Nelandelktä
Fifteen - Visendektä
Sixteen - Kuundektä
Seventeen - Setändektä
Eighteen - Aktendektä
Nineteen - Sännendektä

Twenty - Töktä
Thirty - Triektä
Forty - Nelanektä
Fifty - Visektä
Sixty - Kuuntä
Seventy - Setäntä
Eighty - Aktä
Ninety - Sännektä

Hundred - Senta / Sënta
Thousand - Tusen
Million - Millaa
Billion - Millaante
Trillion - Millaantesenta

777 777 - Setänsentansetänsetäntätusensetänsentansetänsetäntä

Ordinal Numbers
# + -n- + -des
First - Ükandes
Second - Töndes
Third - Trinendes
Fourth - Nelandes
Fifth - Visendes
Sixth - Kuundes
Seventh - Setändes
Eighth - Aktendes
Ninth - Sännendes
Tenth - Dektändes

Dialects
Karalinne

Zero - Nölä / Zon
One - Ükä
Two - Tö
Three - Kolma
Four - Nela
Five - Vis
Six - Kuun
Seven - Setsän
Eight - Akten
Nine - Sänne
Ten - Dektä

Nörjänlappi
0 - Nolja
1 - Ükä
2 - Käikä
3 - Kolma
4 - Neljä
5 - Viisä
6 - Kusa
7 - Seitä
8 - Kaitaka
9 - Ütäkää
10 - Kümä
Hundred - Saita
Thousand - Tussa
Million - Milla
Billion - Millakä

Sudennakuna
0 - Zü
1 - En
2 - Tö
3 - Trej
4 - Vur
5 - Visi
6 - Zeisi
7 - Zeitsji
8 - Akk
9 - Nin
10 - Züen
Hundred - Unte
Thousand - Tausjeen
Million - Milleen
Billion - Piljeen

When forming numbers above ten, the last digit comes first.
18 - Akken
28 - Akktö
38 - Akktrej
180 - Züakkenunte (lit. 0, 8, 100)
1,180 - Züakkenuneentausjeen (lit. 0, 8, 100, 1000)

Aruzhin
Zero - N˙l
One - Otini
Two - Liiri
Three - K˙limi
Four - Naakiri
Five - T˙szhimi
Six - Keiliri
Seven - Säreenimi
Eight - Maruoniri
Nine - Küroonimi
Ten - N˙lki

The alternation of -ri and -ni/-mi is to determine the light kuipiri and dark kiitenimi (short: kiinimi) numbers, aka even and odd. Dates back to the older Aruz (or Proto-Aruzhin) number system where (except for zero), all numbers are named after light and dark, alternating and are derived from the Aruz ordinal numbers.

Aruz / Old Aruz / Proto-Aruzhin
Zero - Nel / Nöulä (there are many variants)
One - Tiinonimi (lit. first of dark)
Two - Tiinoniri (lit. first of light)
Three - Köikonimi (lit. second of dark)
Four - Köikoniri (lit. second of light)
Five - Kuulonimi (lit. third of dark)
Six - Kuuloniri (lit. third of light)
Seven - Naalonimi (lit. fourth of dark)
Eight - Naaloniri (lit. fourth of light)
Nine - Vaikonimi (lit. fifth of dark)
Ten - Vaikoniri (lit. fifth of light)

Random number in Aruz:
217 518 - Tiinoniri'kontiinoniminvaikoniriviinaalonimi'to'kuulonimi'kontiinoniminvaikoniriviinaaloniri

Random fact:
Aurun has a trace of Aruzhin in the form of -des which is a shortened form of the suffix -desiri which came from the Aruzhin word for ordinal, kiidesiri which came from the Aruz word for number, kuidesiriini.

And then Aurun has a word for ordinal that is derived from the Aruzhin kiidesiri which is kiitesi.

Auruna wrote:Aruz

Ah, I forgot that you had an even earlier layer than Aruzhin.. I must say that I find the depth of this quite impressive! How much time, roughly, separates Aruz and Aurun?

Lower alterac

numerals in anmevigian

ANM numerals

by Lower alterac

* the Otkujyustd for the numeral 0 is rare
Read dispatch

Numbers in Iksilan
one - ey
two - twek
three - drez
four - beha
five- bevs
six - zeig
seven - seibs
eight - axa
nine - neig
ten - deig
eleven - eysek
twelve - twesek
thirteen - dresek
fourteen - behasek
fifteen - bevssek
sixteen - zeigsek
seventeen - seibssek
eighteen - axasek
nineteen - neigsek
twenty - twegik
twenty-one - twegikey
twenty-two - twegiktwek
thirty - dregik
forty - behagik
fifty - bevsgik
sixty - zeiggik
seventy - seibsgik
eighty - axagik
ninety - neiggik
one hundred - eyggart

Linessia

нє 1
мэ 2
де 3
ны 4
то 5
ңа 6
ңамка 7
мины 8
нян 9
мғё 10
мғё нюғ 11
мғё мэўғ 12
мғё деўғ 13
мғё нуғ 14
мғё тоўғ 15
мғё ңаўғ 16
мғё ңамкаўғ 17
мғё мынуғ 18
мғё няўғ 19
мэ мғё 20
мэ мғё нюғ 21
де мғё 30
мғё-мғё 100
мғё-мғё нюғ 101
мғё-мғё мғё нюғ 111
тысесь 1000
тысесь мғё-мғё мғё нюғ 1111

Kuerhyedeenistan wrote:Ah, I forgot that you had an even earlier layer than Aruzhin.. I must say that I find the depth of this quite impressive! How much time, roughly, separates Aruz and Aurun?

Thanks!

About 300-900 years separate the two with Aruzhin being right in between.

And this gave me an idea of making a family tree of my conlangs (and probably of the CCL based on the language family post) whenever I'm bored.

Auruna wrote:Thanks!

About 300-900 years separate the two with Aruzhin being right in between.

Allright! 300 years seems a tad little from what I've seen, but approaching 900 sounds reasonable.

..Although IIRC it's not a direct line of descent type of situation going on, so maybe 300's not too far fetched. Cool stuff any way. :)

Auruna wrote:And this gave me an idea of making a family tree of my conlangs (and probably of the CCL based on the language family post) whenever I'm bored.

That would be neat! :D

This reminds me that I should some time make an effort at making at least the outlines of a proto-language system for the Kuerhyét-Inna family.. I'm thinking now that ideally it should be a linkage system with a couple of dead members; though that's going to be a hell of a lot of work.. XO

Linessia wrote:нє 1
мэ 2
де 3
ны 4
то 5
ңа 6
ңамка 7
мины 8
нян 9
мғё 10
мғё нюғ 11
мғё мэўғ 12
мғё деўғ 13
мғё нуғ 14
мғё тоўғ 15
мғё ңаўғ 16
мғё ңамкаўғ 17
мғё мынуғ 18
мғё няўғ 19
мэ мғё 20
мэ мғё нюғ 21
де мғё 30
мғё-мғё 100
мғё-мғё нюғ 101
мғё-мғё мғё нюғ 111
тысесь 1000
тысесь мғё-мғё мғё нюғ 1111

Is this a priori or is it based on any real world language families? It reminds me somehow about Paleosiberian, but that may just be the whole Cyrillic-but-obviously-not-Slavic orthography choice.. XD

It seems to have a larger vowel inventory than what is common in Paleosiberian languages any way. The number four - ны - seems intriguingly Finno-Ugric, though none of the other numbers as far as I can tell.. нян seems to be an IE-loan, though not from Slavic (at least not Russian).. huh!
Interesting stuff! I'd like to learn more! :D

Linessia

Linessia

Kuerhyedeenistan wrote:Is this a priori or is it based on any real world language families? It reminds me somehow about Paleosiberian, but that may just be the whole Cyrillic-but-obviously-not-Slavic orthography choice.. XD

It seems to have a larger vowel inventory than what is common in Paleosiberian languages any way. The number four - ны - seems intriguingly Finno-Ugric, though none of the other numbers as far as I can tell.. нян seems to be an IE-loan, though not from Slavic (at least not Russian).. huh!
Interesting stuff! I'd like to learn more! :D

It's a Nivkh language. Grammatically closer to Amur (simply because Amur is the only one with any amount of thorough grammatical information in records) but lexically derived directly from Proto-Nivkh, with extensive Proto-Tungusic borrowings to fill in the gaps in reconstruction. All the numbers before 1,000 are directly descended from Proto-Nivkh (with Amur formation patterns) and any hypotheses about whether they were originally loaned into Proto-Nivkh would be purely speculative, but it's incredibly unlikely that they would be loaned from any Indo-European language due to the disparity in location, so the resemblance of нян to "nine" is almost certainly coincidental. Тысесь for "thousand" is indeed loaned from Russian тысяч, as well as the unlisted милион and милиард (though these are not Russian native words, only borrowed via Russian).

Linessia wrote:It's a Nivkh language. Grammatically closer to Amur (simply because Amur is the only one with any amount of thorough grammatical information in records) but lexically derived directly from Proto-Nivkh, with extensive Proto-Tungusic borrowings to fill in the gaps in reconstruction. All the numbers before 1,000 are directly descended from Proto-Nivkh (with Amur formation patterns) and any hypotheses about whether they were originally loaned into Proto-Nivkh would be purely speculative, but it's incredibly unlikely that they would be loaned from any Indo-European language due to the disparity in location, so the resemblance of нян to "nine" is almost certainly coincidental. Тысесь for "thousand" is indeed loaned from Russian тысяч, as well as the unlisted милион and милиард (though these are not Russian native words, only borrowed via Russian).

Ah, so my Paleosiberian guess was actually spot on! Cool concept! :)

Linessia

Salamdal

퓨흇유휵휵뚙 믕퓨스'슈, 뮤휵 믕뜨흇유 뮤띁
Ileűmnanda ching-eűl, jan chae̋le̋um jog
Hello friends, I'm new here

Ixilland, Kowani, Upper Alterac, Bunkaiia, and 1 otherCretan islamic state

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