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Pope Francis is the best Pope since John Paul II.

The glorious third reign of templedom

Atrides wrote:When dealing with ethics I agree with you. But there was ancient pagan philosophers [...] (1)

We will clean the mess, and make the intellectual RECONQUISTA of The West. (2)

(1) Oh yes I had more modern philosophers in mind. Classical thinkers had no knowledge of the true God before the revelation of His Word, so they are not faulted in this regard.

(2) A noble goal, but despite all valid criticisms of Evangelicals in the US - Charismatics specifically, one thing they did get right was that reclaiming the intellectual must begin with revival of the spiritual:

John 15:5
I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. [KJV]

I need to hear from more modern Catholic philosophers.

The glorious third reign of templedom

Sundiata wrote:I need to hear from more modern Catholic philosophers.

Erm, Bl. Cardinal Newman?

https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/
2019/09/newmans-university-today

Sundiata

I'm on a dark night of the soul.

I must confess that the only thing that prevent me from suicide is the certainty of Hell, maybe God forbid in case of mind disorders, psychological problems or extreme depression but I am not sure because I am not God.

What a torture to live on this world, evil people, evil things, things decaying everywere.

Emptyness, horror and sadness, bunch of PTSD, chronical anxiety and extreme depression, that's my life. What God wanted with this over me?

Sometimes I think that God put me aside of most corrupted people, I was an atheist before, so it will give me the conversion after.

I don't have energy for anything. I'm being drained by my depression and anxiety.

God, why?

God, have you forsaken me?

I am not an example of a Christian I know, but everything here look so... hopeless... I have to deal with really dark thoughts since I was a child... harming myself, harming others, my God I even think about being a Columbiner before.

Please can somebody give me a single reason to love my neighboor beyond the Bible alone?

I am feeling a very, extreme dark misanthropy taken over me, people here in Brazil care only about money, sex and power (this is on entire world I know, but on empirical research made about values Brazilians is on the top, only behind the Americans)

I live on a society that shuns knowledge, that "OPPORTUNISM IS CONSIRED A VIRTUE".

Why a WW3 don't happens and end this suffering nuking the entire humanity at all? It shoul not be an act of hate but an act of MERCY.

I have good reasons for reaching MY DARK MISANTHROPY.

The glorious third reign of templedom

Atrides wrote:...

These bible verses will explain your predicaments:

He that loveth his life shall lose it; and he that hateth his life in this world shall keep it unto life eternal. (Jn. 12:25)

And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:
And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? (Rev. 6:9-10)

Apostles' Creed:
Credo in Spiritum Sanctum, sanctam Ecclesiam catholicam, sanctorum communionem, remissionem peccatorum, carnis resurrectionem, vitam aeternam. Amen.

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[Bible quotes taken from KJV, extract of the Credo taken from EWTN website https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/latin-prayers-9125 ; emphasis mine]

The glorious third reign of templedom

... BIG, RED flag unfurling:

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https://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives
/2019/10/letters-from-the-synod-2019-1

Quote:
" This concern [embrace of indigenous religions] was not assuaged when, a few days before the synod, what was described as an “indigenous ecological ritual” was celebrated in the Vatican gardens by Amazonians. The “ritual” included a male fertility totem with a distinctively male, er, profile; the entire exercise seemed to surprise Pope Francis, watching it at a distance. He declined to give his prepared address and left abruptly after reciting the Lord’s Prayer."

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https://www.crisismagazine.com/2019/what-does
-the-amazon-synods-working-document-really-say

Quote:
" Fourth, the Instrumentum maintains that the Church must accept and recognize the “Amazon cosmovision,” including the integration of “indigenous theology and ecotheology” concerning the formation of “ordained ministers” and the “teaching of Pan-Amazonian indigenous theology in all [Catholic] educational institutions.” It goes on to declare that the Holy Spirit has taught Amazonian indigenous peoples “faith in the God Father-Mother Creator,” adding that the “Eucharistic ritual” must be adapted to indigenous “cultures,” and those cultures” must be thoroughly “integrated into liturgical and sacramental rituals.” "

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(Emphasis added)

The abomination of desolation is a certain pagan, spiritually blasphemous idol which has appeared time and again during great crises: the zeus idol placed upon the Second Temple's altar by Roman soldiers during the sack of Jerusalem; the altar of liberty erected in Notre Dame during the French Revolution.

Pray, and pray hard, that Pope Francis will not promulgate these errors.

Matthew 24:15-22
15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened. [KJV]

Theokratiss and Thomas More

Pope Francis is just here to mess with Bolsonaro, our conservative president and here  on Brazil The Catholic Church is heavily towards Liberarion Theology.

One of the main reason people fled from Catholic Church is because the neopentecostal evangelical churches preach the Prosperity Theology that is exactly the opposed, and it was evangelical people that in mass voted for Bolsonaro and throw socialists out of the central power.

There is a lot of brazilian conservative priests on YT that know and denounce this situation, the priests here helped the socialists on dictatorship period to give refugee to pro Cuba communists and helped a lot in building the main socialist party that was in power and ruined the economy and the values.

The Bishops Congregation here are mostly of the Liberation Theology and supportex the government, until the goverment begun to support radical feminism, remove the cross from all public spaces, legalize gay marriage, art mocking christianity and almost allowing abortion paid by our universal healthcare system, by our money.

In fact our universal healthcare system cover even the change of gender operation, they have a lot of budget allocated for this but don't have for basic diseases like... well... flu.

Most of the brazilians are not catholics, they were raised catholics and most of the kids today are nor even baptized.

The moral reserve of this country is coming from the born again protestant, and de facto Brazil is already a protestant country. When I visited the girl I loved... there was plenty of churches in places that were garage. And I expected a traditional catholic family... I saw a traditional EVANGELICAL PROTESTANT family.

- Catholics? Most of the people here are evangelical already.

Brazilians mostly carry only about money, neopentecostal churches uses Prosperity Theology and used heavy televangelism in the last decades, one of these churches have the second great TV station on Brazil, with a full evangelical programation in the night receiving calls from people on the night on dispair, without money, on drugs, without the husband or spouse, with the children on crime. And there is a lot of preachers on the phone and even one that talk live.

Their theology is basically that God will make you reach, a female preacher even said that Jesus was rich because the mule he was going to Jerusalem was the "Rolls Royce" of that era.

There is churches that are even targetted to teenagers like the Snowball Church (snowball because it grows), the preachers preach above surf pranch with catchy music.

Even me, I abandoned atheism studying but I reached catholicism by the Charismatic Renovation Movement, that was recognized as legitimate by Pope Benedict XVI.

The indigenous here have being spoiled by the socialist government a lot and have areas bigger than European Countries obly for them. They have a victim card and they ALWAYS use it. European and American NGOs have more control of these territories than we Brazilians have and they came here to steal our minerals (like niobe, that is needed to make spacecraft and we have more than 50% of the planet reserves) and our fauna to discover new cosmetics, stealing out natural resources, some indigenous tribes don't even know how to speak portuguese, but english and french, that's why we hate the French moralistic stance toward us.

The European Union love to play the moralistoc enviromentalist but they steal our own resources for research for profit from us, they want to take the Amazon Rainforest to have our niobe deposits and natural resources, and in fact they already have along with the Americans using NGOs to prevent break of territory sovereignity by our government.

The NGOs are mostly fighting against the new conservative government because we are considering to expel ALL THE NGOs from these areas to restore our rightful control over our own territory.

"Oh but tou Brazilians don't control the burnings."

Look at the size of that... the jungle don't end in Brazil... and there is even indigenous tribe that never made the first contact withç civilization unti today and the policy is to let it like that as long as it's possible, there is no country on Earth capable of dealing with a giant jungle like that, there is unexplored areas, dangerous animals everywere and the rivers are used to transport drugs. Oh, the TV and YT don't show it but skirmishes between the Brazilian Army against the communist narco-guerrillas of Colombia or druglords on the deep jungle and on the rivers are not uncommon at all.

Sundiata

The glorious third reign of templedom

Atrides wrote:

Brazilians mostly carry only about money, neopentecostal churches uses Prosperity Theology and used heavy televangelism in the last decades, one of these churches have the second great TV station on Brazil, with a full evangelical programation in the night receiving calls from people on the night on dispair, without money, on drugs, without the husband or spouse, with the children on crime. And there is a lot of preachers on the phone and even one that talk live.

This is the crux of it. 'Prosperity gospel' (faith-word, seed-money, etc etc) is a highly seductive heresy, and Evangelical methods of outreach were invented, tried and tested in America that's why they are so successful. It's basically a scam, sort of like pyramid schemes or multi-level marketing, where one televangelist apprentices under a mentor, then starts his own church. Except the difference being, all that's being 'sold' are hopes and dreams.

Occidental hispania

“Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven. Many will say to me in that day: Lord, Lord, have not we prophesied in thy name, and cast out devils in thy name, and done many miracles in thy name? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, you that work iniquity. Every one therefore that heareth these my words, and doth them, shall be likened to a wise man that built his house upon a rock, And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and they beat upon that house, and it fell not, for it was founded on a rock.” (Mt. 7:21-25)

Fredgast

Shouldn't good Christians all have unkempt beards considering God ordered the Israelites to to not cut their beards or am I wrong?

Leviticus 19:27 "You shall not round off the hair on your temples or mar the edges of your beard."

Fredgast wrote:Shouldn't good Christians all have unkempt beards considering God ordered the Israelites to to not cut their beards or am I wrong?

Leviticus 19:27 "You shall not round off the hair on your temples or mar the edges of your beard."

We are not bound to the laws of the Old Covenant, but rather their fulfillment in Christ Jesus.

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/why-we-are-not-bound-by-everything-in-the-old-law

Pocomokey

The glorious third reign of templedom wrote:
This is the crux of it. 'Prosperity gospel' (faith-word, seed-money, etc etc) is a highly seductive heresy, and Evangelical methods of outreach were invented, tried and tested in America that's why they are so successful. It's basically a scam, sort of like pyramid schemes or multi-level marketing, where one televangelist apprentices under a mentor, then starts his own church. Except the difference being, all that's being 'sold' are hopes and dreams.

The Prosperity Gospel caused a setback against religion and christianity there too?

Atheism established a foothold here because of revolted young people (I was one of them) asking and reflecting things like.

- These preachers are always saying that you need to donate money to become rich to desperate people.

- There preachers instigate fear on it's believers that if they don't go to the church or pay the thithes (10% of your montly income and the believers are influenced to give even more in some churches to get more grace from God) they will suffer more than when they enteres and being tormented by worse demons than those who was with the believer before.

- These preachers are filthy rich! Jesus never forbid being rich, but as somebody on the position of the apostles they must care less about being rich and more about preaching.

- They instigate that God will punish people that don't give money or that they will lose it's protection against the Devil.

- They talk more of the Devil more than they talk of God.

- And they point their fingers to me because I like Heavy Metal (not all heavy metal are black metal), RPG and videogames. I'm a possesses Satan for them because of this.

- Oh, and some of them openly commemorate the death people who made criticism. A journalist on TV denounced a preacher, he got a cancer and died, the preacher said openly on the TV that "I made the hand of God fall upon him", and if I remember it was followed by a lot of "hallelujas" from the follower.

This made a lot of people think that religion was just business and that christians are mostly suckers paying money. The fact of most of them being poor and having poor education don't care too, evangelical christians are stereotyped as dumb people.

I am a lot superstitious about this, maybe what rest of the OCD I had: Everytime I criticize evangelical christians something bad happens, ALWAYS, maybe it is just a coincidence or even despite everything they still Christians and are really protected by God. So God forbid me if I tell anything wrong.

Oh, one of them kicked a lot of times on live TV an icon of Virgin Mary.

Pocomokey

The glorious third reign of templedom

I'll address your points in order:
- fleecing the sheep
- some megachurches even go to the extent of demanding payslips for verification to ensure their flocks are not 'cheating'
- Matthew 19:24, Mark 10:25, Luke 18:25
- The devil's works should be called to attention in these last days
- The stringent ones even renounce 'worshipping' one's smartphone as a sign of bondage to satan. They do have a point, but still,
- Ezekiel 18:23 & 33:11
- Eh... Ok.

- BE VERY CAREFUL, BECAUSE:

Mark 3:29-30
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
30 Because they [the scribes] said, He hath an unclean spirit. [KJV]

- They really shouldn't harbour such animosity towards Roman Catholics.

Edit: added annotation

The glorious third reign of templedom wrote:I'll address your points in order:
- fleecing the sheep
- some megachurches even go to the extent of demanding payslips for verification to ensure their flocks are not 'cheating'
- Matthew 19:24, Mark 10:25, Luke 18:25
- The devil's works should be called to attention in these last days
- The stringent ones even renounce 'worshipping' one's smartphone as a sign of bondage to satan. They do have a point, but still,
- Ezekiel 18:23 & 33:11
- Eh... Ok.

- BE VERY CAREFUL, BECAUSE:

Mark 3:29-30
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
30 Because they [the scribes] said, He hath an unclean spirit. [KJV]


- They really shouldn't harbour such animosity towards Roman Catholics.

Edit: added annotation

They harbour animosity against Roman Catholics because most of the converted were "raised catholics" or ex-catholic on dispair, most of need to prevent a return and make sure they consider us guilty of idolatry to keep retaining their flock.

The problem is that they are making Christianity look like a trade. The "Faith Industry".

There is even a joke in Brazil, there was a program on TV called "Little Companies, Great Business" to instigate little enterpreneurism, a big problem on Brazil thanks to the bureaucracy and high taxes, people made a fun of this looking at evangelical churches creating the motto.

"Little churches, great business."

Even other traditional protestant and other pentecostal denominations criticize them.

And God forbid me if I am being a sinner from criticizing them. I have an evangelical friend and he is an example of person, never smoked, abstain from alcohol, never used drugs and play RPGs and games on Steam with me sometimes. So God forbid me if I am doing some sin on criticizing them, I beg to do not let your wrath to fall upon me.

The glorious third reign of templedom

https://catholicherald.co.uk/news/2019/
10/09/pope-francis-catholics-should-not-
profess-ideology-over-faith

Quoting the Pope:
“ "Let us ask the Father to let us too, like Saul, experience the impact of his love that can only make a heart of stone a heart of flesh, capable of embracing ‘the same sentiments of Christ Jesus,’” he concluded."

With all due respect to the Pope, the truth is Our Lord also sensed (correctly and on multiple occasions) that the very people He came to save wanted Him dead.

It happened to St. Paul too.

Some things will never change.

But otherwise I agree with what Pope Francis has said.

The glorious third reign of templedom

And so it begins:

Turkish army begins invasion of Syria with air strikes – Erdogan defends attacks
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/
1188433/turkey-syria-invasion-attack-kur
dish-forces-us-troops-President-Erdogan

The glorious third reign of templedom wrote:And so it begins:

Turkish army begins invasion of Syria with air strikes – Erdogan defends attacks
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/
1188433/turkey-syria-invasion-attack-kur
dish-forces-us-troops-President-Erdogan

"Muslims" have been fighting "muslims" since I was born, what do you mean begin?
This is the way Satan wanted it when he led Mohammed to be the false prophet of the Gnostic religion of Islam.

Fredgast wrote:
"Muslims" have been fighting "muslims" since I was born, what do you mean begin?
This is the way Satan wanted it when he led Mohammed to be the false prophet of the Gnostic religion of Islam.

What do you expect from a religion made by a bloodthirsty, raper, slaver, pedophile and warmonger?

He became an emperor and not even a century after him a civil war amongst the caliphate about who is the rightful sucessor of Mohamed separated the muslims into Sunni and Shia.

And the dynastic war about the successor of the Caliphate that do not even exists anymore still ongoing!

Fredgast, Thomas More, and Sundiata

The glorious third reign of templedom

https://www.catholicculture.org/commentary/the-city-gates.cfm?id=1773

Quote;
" Still Scalfari is no fool. He is a veteran Italian journalist, the founder and still the editor of La Repubblica, and one of the Pope’s favorite interlocutors."

" ...several possible explanations for Scalfari’s extraordinary statement."

Maybe that wily old fox is the Pope's bosom buddy and true confessor, what with the notorious bureaucratic culture in the Roman Curia where walls have ears and anything whispered may someday be used against you, it makes sense to consider one more possibility.

Is this enough heresy or will good righteous Catholics keep defending this false secular Pope?

https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/michael-w-chapman/scalfari-pope-francis-told-me-jesus-incarnate-was-man-not-all-god

I say it's about time the true Holy Father cast this godless man away from the Holy See!

I’m certainly not going to “defend” Pope Francis, but before I begin, I do want to point out that he is, first and foremost a Jesuit; from the same school that came up with the heresy of “Liberation Theology.” The second thing is that he is a devious Jesuit and I would not be surprised for him to deliberately throw red herrings out there for opposing sides to fight over while he makes even more dangerous statements in the background. Given the current Amazon Synod, this is one example of a beautifully smelly red herring.

Omensa, Fredgast, and Sundiata

Shame to see the Jesuits one of the great missionaries of centuries past be reduced to an embarrassment that houses people such as James Martin. St. Ignatius of Loyola pray for us all.

Fredgast and Sacrum regnum hierosolimitanum

Frustrated Franciscans wrote:I’m certainly not going to “defend” Pope Francis, but before I begin, I do want to point out that he is, first and foremost a Jesuit; from the same school that came up with the heresy of “Liberation Theology.” The second thing is that he is a devious Jesuit and I would not be surprised for him to deliberately throw red herrings out there for opposing sides to fight over while he makes even more dangerous statements in the background. Given the current Amazon Synod, this is one example of a beautifully smelly red herring.



As a Brazilian I can tell you that the Amazon Synod became a mess, a political tool, to the point of The Pope watch a pagan indigenous ritual in a giant phallic form piece of tree or object.

Most of the faithful Catholics here are not liking it, but our clergy is mostly with Liberation Theology.

Remembering, most of the priests and bishops of Brazil helped to build the main socialist party here, the same party that left Brazil on the sorry state of today, and most of them are openly against the current elected conservative president.

Most of the Catholics that really go to the church and participate of the liturgy voted for the CONSERVATIVE candidate, Bolsonaro. He was not the better choice, he was the ONLY choice, being the other the socialist that will take revenge over the impeachment of the last socialist president by corruption and their icon, Lula, that is basically their equivalent to savior and saint.

Most of the catholic clergy here is aligned with socialists, even knowing that they promote atheism, abortionism, feminism, LGBT marriage, LGBT adoption of children, legalization of prostitution and blasphemous art. All in name of liberating the poor, in the name of "social justice".

And in ALL Latin America the clergy is left leaning, because we have a past of US interference on Cold War, US backed dictatorship, and these dictatorship killed a lot of Theology Liberation clergy people, so to declare yourself "right-wing" or "conservative" raise a straw of being a dictatorship supporter, and as the socialists were the resistance (as they call themselves TODAY for being against an elected on free an fair election president), on the mind of most people they are the people who truly care about the poor and democracy, when in fact on the dictatorship period and even today they were and are Cuba and Venezuela supporters and wanted to overthrow a capitalist dictatorship not to put democracy but to put a socialist dictatorship in the place.

And now on all Western World they got their dictatorship by cultural means, we must take care about what we speak, of how we act, we can't criticize some groups, because the brainwashed population is always watching us, they don't even need a policy state, it's a Facebook world.

People on The West became terrorized by the China social credit system. In fact their system (I don't defend this system, it's only a comparison ok) is far less oppressive than our social system, any suspicion here of divergence of the mainstream may get you to become isolated, without a job, considered a criminal, and ANYONE can accuse you without giving any chance of defense at all (defense against crimethink).

Fredgast

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