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Jesus did not reject those that earnestly sought to follow him. It's not okay to say someone is controlled by the devil without real evidence of diabolical obsession. I think it made Marquisal feel rejected and I think that's why he left this region. Sometimes I'm ashamed to call myself a Catholic and the merciless behaviour of fellow-Catholics is one of the reasons why.
Besides, quoting Leviticus is tricky because there are many other regulations in that book that no one in his right mind thinks apply in our day and age. For example, it also forbade the Israelites to wear clothes made of mixed fabric, e.g. wool and cotton.
Luke 6:43-45: "“For no good tree bears bad fruit, nor again does a bad tree bear good fruit, for each tree is known by its own fruit. For figs are not gathered from thornbushes, nor are grapes picked from a bramble bush. The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks."
Those who are not with us are against us our side is Jesus theirs is Satan. I rather be the one making someone feeling rejected when God is rejecting them than to see them burn in hell because they are following Satan.
You condemnation of the old testament paired with your faked righteousness makes me suspect lutheranism.
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You're taking my quote out of its context and then you're taking the wrong conclusion. I'm not condemning the Old Testament. I'm just saying that some parts of it, particularly with regards to the ceremonial laws of the Israelites as described in Leviticus, have been superseded by the New Covenant, which is of Christ.
As to the latter part of what you wrote, that again is a very harsh and rash judgment and I hope the moderators will see fit to remove it.
I thought this was the right region for me, but since it seems that there can be no discussion without it evolving into a mud fight, I'm out (at least for now).
Interesting how the godless hiding in our region fled after seeing VRS hopefully they can come back one day once they've converted to the one true faith but at least now we can get back to normal.
About universal healthcare.
A Christian charity is an act of will, you can't force people to help the poor to have treatment, and you will be force people who are not Christian to pay the healthcare for another person.
The Church made a lot of hospitals on the world and I understand the appeal to an universal healthcare.
We have universal healthcare in Brazil and it sucks, it is just an excuse for corruption and big government, and the quality of thr servicd is very bad despite billions being invested on it.
The USA according to what I read on Alexis of Tocqueville have the tradition of building associations, a lot of them inspiref by christian feelings, but it seems that the Americans are losing this tradition, a good think to do is to mount associations that fundfaise treatment for the poor, but charity seems do be disappearing, at least to things that matters, people prefer to donate money to ideological political militant organizations than help association that help people just for the sake of doing something good for people.
About universal healthcare.
A Christian charity is an act of will, you can't force people to help the poor to have treatment, and you will be forcing people who are not Christian to pay the healthcare for another person.
The Church made a lot of hospitals on the world and I understand the appeal to an universal healthcare.
We have universal healthcare in Brazil and it sucks, it is just an excuse for corruption and big government, and the quality of the service is very bad despite billions being invested on it.
The USA according to what I read on Alexis of Tocqueville have the tradition of building associations, a lot of them inspired by christian feelings, but it seems that the Americans are losing this tradition, a good think to do is to mount associations that fundfaise treatment for the poor, but charity seems do be disappearing, at least to things that matters, people prefer to donate money to ideological political militant organizations than help association that help people just for the sake of doing something good for people.
"There were some who had confidence in themselves, thinking they had won acceptance with God, and despised the rest of the world; to them he addressed this other parable: Two men went up into the temple to pray; one was a Pharisee, the other a publican. The Pharisee stood upright, and made this prayer in his heart, I thank thee, God, that I am not like the rest of men, who steal and cheat and commit adultery, or like this publican here; for myself, I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. And the publican stood far off; he would not even lift up his eyes towards heaven; he only beat his breast, and said, God, be merciful to me; I am a sinner. I tell you, this man went back home higher in God’s favour than the other; everyone who exalts himself shall be humbled, and the man who humbles himself shall be exalted." (Luke 18:9-14, Knox translation)
You think I'm full of hate but I'm not, you think I'm prideful but I'm not. I fight for my lord and in him I have pride I will defend his word no matter what anyone does to me no matter what anyone says, in my lord I have love and in my brothers I have love that's why I try to lead you away from Satan the deceiver.
I am nothing but dust, the lord gives me strength and the lord puts words into my mouth.
I find your arguments sound and bombastic; but sticking the knife in like that...
On this weekend, when we rest from our usual labors, loving Father, we pray for all who shoulder the tasks of human labor—in the marketplace, in factories and offices, in the professions, and in family living.
We thank you, Lord, for the gift and opportunity of work; may our efforts always be pure of heart, for the good of others and the glory of your name.
We lift up to you all who long for just employment and those who work to defend the rights and needs of workers everywhere.
May those of us who are now retired always remember that we still make a valuable contribution to our Church and our world by our prayers and deeds of charity.
May our working and our resting all give praise to you until the day we share together in eternal rest with all our departed in your Kingdom as you live and reign Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, one God, forever and ever. Amen.
With the enemy at the gates and a flood of indifferent people, the few crusaders left are fighting amongst themselves inside the Christedom.
People do not respond to language of reckoning. That is one thing the bible thumpers out there don't understand. Reading something from a book that the other person doesn't even see as inspired does nothing. The has to be charity towards others, listening to their concerns and then using reason to help lead them to truth.
I partially concur. Faith without works is dead. Many brethrens are living in manifest sins day-to-day, for examples, divorcing then battling for custody of the children in the courts, doing drugs, having pre/extra-marital sex, getting abortions (murder), etc. First clean the inside of the cup (Mt. 23:26) then only can we witness for the Gospel... which must be continuously and unapologetically preached till Kingdom comes!
I’d weigh in on the universal healthcare debate (I’m for it) but I don’t have the energy for it right now. I have more important things on my mind. With that:
Someone very close to me, to be honest she’s basically my girlfriend (it’s complicated don’t ask) is in the middle of a really severe depressive episode. I’ve had to plead with her the last two nights not to kill herself but I’m not sure how much I can help on the third day (she basically builds immunities to what I say after a day). She’s really scared, she doesn’t think she can take another day. I don’t want to lose her. Please pray for her.
I only had depressed or bipolar girlfriends in my life.
Some of them were borderlines.
Well I have chronic anxiety, my limbic system is messed up, but it is under control and most people see me as a very calm person, here are some tips.
1) Pray. (Of course)
2) Listen to everything she said, just listen, don't speak too much, just let her know that you care a lot about her.
3) Cry with her and/or give your arm for her to cry.
4) Psychologic serenity, even if she get a breakdown, even if she spits at you, remember that she may be not on full sane mode thanks to depression, keep the serenity and if she smack you... say looking into her eyes that you love her anyway.
5) Let her focus on a hobby, it must be something that require a lot of focus and attention, in the beginning she will find boring and even argue, but after she will focus on that and the suicide ideas will reduce greatly
6) Call her friends if needed, don't tell them everything if they don't know, just say that she is very sad and needs help with it.
7) KEEP YOUR MIND CALM, ALWAYS, IF A CRISIS SITUATION HAPPENS, IF ANGER TAKE HER, BE EVEN MORE CALM, YOU WILL NEED TO THINK BETTER WHAT TO DO, BE PRUDENT AND KNOW THAT GOD IS WITH YOU.
Theokratiss, Eponia, and Brazil portugal and algarve
Cardinal Burke is coming to Scotland in less than two weeks :) he's celebrating pontifical mass in Glasgow, I can't wait!!!
Fredgast, Totern, Brazil portugal and algarve, and Gregor Monarchy
Pray the rosary?
Pocomokey, Theokratiss, and Eponia
A sad day today as Italy has fallen into the hands of the godless once more, but hopefully we will have the power back in due time and whatever happens it is the will of God.
Katholskur, Eponia, Novo vaticanus, and Gregor Monarchy
The gutless government just damned themselves and everyone else to hell.
Luke 17:33
Omensa and Fredgast
There is a way for the EU collapse before coming an Caliphate or a Russian Federation little province?
Western Europe is a lost cause, they chose to suicide indulging on hedonism and with guilt complex for doing in the past what any human civilization with the same power would have done anyway, there is no Western Europe anymore, it is just a rotten corpse with a legacy that Europeans themselves want to burn because they were evil as all human civilization would be on the same place.
The only hope is to happen like happened with Classical Greece and the Roman Empire, that the successor civilization have a look on the legacy and take the beauty assimilating part of it, like happened with the barbarian kingdoms after the fall of Rome.
Fredgast, Theokratiss, and Thomas More
I find this attitude absolutely hilarious and it quite often comes from Americans who have zero real knowledge about Europe.
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