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Warlord Yuan Bao wrote:Yay

I can finally begin creating Yangchenia focus tree.

One of the main features is to be able to change ideology very quickly, however the nation is at high risk of civil war if you lean too much on a single one.

https://edge.hoi4modding.com/mod/2303 I started the mod project you can try to join by this until I return home today. We're going with Kaiserreich ideologies or an complete overhaul

Republic of Libriano wrote:https://edge.hoi4modding.com/mod/2303 I started the mod project you can try to join by this until I return home today. We're going with Kaiserreich ideologies or an complete overhaul

Oh oh can I do my focus tree! I think that civil war with Straty will be perfect to lead to my countries formation! (I’m not gonna code it but I will map it out!)

The Kaisers Syndicates wrote:Oh oh can I do my focus tree! I think that civil war with Straty will be perfect to lead to my countries formation!

Of course!

But try to join it through the link. You'll need account there just saying also I don't know how to properly add on phone version so I hope the link will work just fine.

Abarc, Tyra melin, and Arthornia

Republic of Libriano wrote:But try to join it through the link. You'll need account there just saying also I don't know how to properly add on phone version so I hope the link will work just fine.

It’ll probably be a bit then also this would be the first mod I would ever work on so you’d have to bear with me

Republic of Libriano wrote:https://edge.hoi4modding.com/mod/2303 I started the mod project you can try to join by this until I return home today. We're going with Kaiserreich ideologies or an complete overhaul

I'm on the mod page and I made an account but how do I join the mod

Tyra melin

Tyra melin wrote:Goodnight guys!

Nighties!

A Different Puppet of Potatopelago wrote:I'm on the mod page and I made an account but how do I join the mod

You should click the link and it should work if not you'll need to wait for me to get back home to do it better when I'll access my pc.

Love how they keep saying theyre adding thorns to RWOT while Roses With Thorns exists.

Also I see you finally ejected the very obvious sleeper - just noticed that when I checked the RMB

Warlord Yuan Bao wrote:Love how they keep saying theyre adding thorns to RWOT while Roses With Thorns exists.

Also I see you finally ejected the very obvious sleeper - just noticed that when I checked the RMB

I'll do even more I'll ban it.

Dacks wrote:RWOT 2.0

Not RWOT 2.0 as we don't associate ourselves with old RWOT.

This is a fresh start

R.I.P my embassy collecting plans SC just declared it "bad".

If you dont know Roses With Thorns is a small-scale embassy collector especially with featured regions.

Warlord Yuan Bao wrote:R.I.P my embassy collecting plans SC just declared it "bad".

If you dont know Roses With Thorns is a small-scale embassy collector especially with featured regions.

Also I can't accept the embassy request with Kelra since there are problematic embassies. Big red flag is mittleeuropa and True Weskaria.

Republic of Libriano wrote:You should click the link and it should work if not you'll need to wait for me to get back home to do it better when I'll access my pc.

I'll try later when I am at pc

Republic of Libriano wrote:Also I can't accept the embassy request with Kelra since there are problematic embassies. Big red flag is mittleeuropa and True Weskaria.

Ive heard of Mitteleuropa being controversial but True Waskaria?

All I know is that people hate them for being embassy collector

Warlord Yuan Bao wrote:Ive heard of Mitteleuropa being controversial but True Waskaria?

All I know is that people hate them for being embassy collector

I'll show you this

The region True Waskaria is notable for sending embassy requests to random regions, and most of the time, these are unsolicited. While one may be tempted to accept, this article will outline why it may be preferable not to fall to his “embassy imperialism”.

Firstly, despite the region’s description, True Waskaria does not read the target region’s embassy policy (if it has one). An example of this is my puppet storage region, Unification Committee. While the description clearly says “Any unwarranted embassy requests will be rejected”, True Waskaria chose to ignore this and sent a request anyway. This description has been removed as of 4 December 2023, and True Waskaria now uses the term “embassy collector unity” and claims that it uses “the peaceful method of embassies”. However, one will quickly discover that the true intention is “embassy imperialism” or “harassment”.

To support this argument, as of 28 December 2023, the region has such a banner, suggesting that one of the main purposes of the region is for embassies, while providing very little useful content:

In addition, on 12 January 2024, it was observed that on 5 January, Peoples of Waskar admitted that it does not care about the target region’s embassy policy:

I was also able to find the following dispatch: page=dispatch/id=1944349
In it, it is clearly stated “you can always reject”, however, if one rejects, the victim will be subject to the following antics:

  1. a symbolic ban towards the victim region’s governor from entering True Waskaria (keeping in mind that the latter is already passworded at the time of writing), and repeatedly unban-banning, spamming the “national happenings” section of the victim nation, as illustrated below:

    This effectively also creates a telegram spam, as shown below:

  2. humiliation of the victim nation even further by listing it into a dispatch, while True Waskaria itself plays the victim:
    page=dispatch/id=1888380
    page=dispatch/id=1964829

    Update, 5 December 2023: the aforementioned dispatches have been deleted, but the first one was a mockery of those who rejected True Waskaria's “imperialism”, filled with insults towards them, and the second was a list of aforementioned regions.

  3. prevention of embassy closure by threatening the above even if an already built embassy is scheduled for closure, or even if an embassy is in progress but stopped midway. This is proven by a line in the region's World Factbook Entry:

    Embassy Abortion and Rejection equal ban
    As well as the “embassy policy”: page=dispatch/id=1874345 Update, 5 December 2023: the "embassy policy" has been deleted, but it called for "no embassy rejection or abortion" towards the victim regions.
    This way, every region in the world will be susceptible to True Waskaria’s “imperialism” and there is no way to get out of involvement with that region.

    Update, 5 December 2023: The description has been changed to

    We have forsook our old ways and you are free to reject, abort, or close embassies at will.
    However, there are reports that True Waskaria continues to ban nations who reject or close embassies, and then clear the ban list to save its own reputation after people ask about the ban.

    Update, 25 December 2023: It was observed that the above statement has also been removed, but there is now a line that says:

    True Waskaria has mantained union with X% of all the NS verse.
    The number, as of 9 January 2024, is 4%, but it is constantly updated as the region’s “embassy empire” expands, revealing the true intention of the region.

    Update, 29 January 2024: The above statement has been removed too, replaced by:

    #6 In the World for most embassies
    True Waskaria is showing no sign of remorse nor regret, and will not stop until it reaches #1.

Finally, I would like to express my pity for those who have already fallen victim to True Waskaria’s antics. However, do not fear! If you discover your region has embassies with True Waskaria, follow this guide:

  1. Close embassies with True Waskaria before you do anything. Use your browser's [F3] option and search "True Waskaria". Where it says, "X Close", press it.

  2. Block any telegrams from them or their alts. You may just want to enter "Waskar" and block everyone on that list.

  3. Depending on whether or not Waskar uses the telegram spam, block the World Assembly Compliance Commission.

  4. If he does write a dispatch on you, ignore it and write the following dispatch:

    We do not stand for embassy imperialism. Please reject all embassies from [region]True Waskaria[/region].
  5. Pin that dispatch and this dispatch in your region.

  6. Wait for embassies to close.

  7. Congratulations, you survived!

If you do not yet have an embassy with True Waskaria, and you receive a request, simply ignore it!

Update, 1 December 2023: despite all of the above evidence, as well as multiple victims and witnesses of similar incidents regarding True Waskaria's "embassy imperialism", Peoples of Waskar insists that "embassy imperialism" does not exist:

Update, 2 December 2023: I have received a number of telegrams full of accusations, from various users, including those from True Waskaria itself, that accuse me of “defaming” the region. I am purely stating what I have experienced. Ironically, I have become the subject of defamations by Peoples of Waskar. Please be aware.

Update, 4 December 2023: Peoples of Waskar has updated the world factbook entry of True Waskaria (removing the “no jk” at the end of the threat of banning in case of embassy rejection), published the following two dispatches, and admitted the “embassy imperialism”. The aforementioned dispatches include the following:

  1. A supposedly updated “embassy policy” that continues to threaten bans in case of embassy rejection or termination: page=dispatch/id=1874345

  2. A public list of regions who rejected True Waskaria's “embassy imperialism”: page=dispatch/id=1964829

Update, 5 December 2023: the aforementioned dispatches have been deleted.

Further proof of Peoples of Waskar attempting to expand the region’s influence, in the message board of True Waskaria:

Peoples of Waskar admitting the policy of "embassy imperialism" in Majestia's message board:

Peoples of Waskar is also known to spread misinformation among other users, to make them believe that “embassy imperialism” does not exist, despite their own “embassy policy” and all the above actions prove clearly otherwise. Here is an example of a dispatch by someone who has been proven not to be a puppet of Peoples of Waskar, but has fallen to his trap:page=dispatch/id=1964974
As of 4 December 2023, this dispatch is pinned in True Waskaria, proving its effectiveness in propaganda efforts in denying “embassy imperialism” and asserting that the region’s “embassy policy” is not problematic.

Update, 5 December 2023: Peoples of Waskar has deleted the above two dispatches targeting those who rejected the embassy requests. In addition, the following dispatch was published, in an attempt to defame the Union of Conlang Nations: page=dispatch/id=1965380 Update 2: the aforementioned dispatch was also deleted, but the title was Do not accept embassies from Union of Conlang Nations, and the content was a bad parody of this dispatch.

In a last-ditch effort to save its reputation, Peoples of Waskar has also been seen to silence those who started to close embassies and are in the process of doing so, as long as the victim region can still post on True Waskaria's RMB (while embassies are not closed yet):

Peoples of Waskar proceeds to insult them, citing nonexistent rules:

The region continues to defame those who oppose their "embassy imperialism", by claiming that True Waskaria has been defamed by those who started to close embassies:

The region is continuing to use mods as weapons, threatening to get unspecified people deleted, and falsely claiming that people spammed moderation against them:

Update, 6 December 2023: The case of “embassy imperialism” has reached the forums. One person is known to attack one of the victims, having fallen to True Waskaria’s propaganda, and the region is seen to support the attack, calling it a “historic moment”:

The region is also attempting to cover up evidence of its "embassy imperialism":

Update, 17 December 2023: While the world has mostly shifted its attention away from True Waskaria and this entire incident, the "Overseer" of the region suddenly opened a poll, asking for the region's opinions on "Anti-Waskarianism". This term is used only by the region as a label for the victims of "embassy imperialism", legitimizing the region's acts and defaming the victims.

Update, 19 December 2023: The region continues to defame a victim and downplay the damage that it has directly caused:

Update, 20 December 2023: The region begins to call this dispatch as "lies", inventing some supposed "Anti-Waskarian League" to blame for the closures of embassies, in order to shift attention away from their own "embassy imperialism", and continuing the rhetoric of "Anti-Waskarism":


It then proceeds to blame the (then) governor of an unrelated region for ruining the reputation of the user in question, who just happened to be the founder of the aforementioned region:

Update, 23 December 2023: A puppet in another region tries to baselessly accuse me of "trying to flame bait" by simply stating the facts in this dispatch.

Update, 27 December 2023: It was observed that some alternative account, claiming to be a "former ally of Selanese[sic]" and baselessly accused me of trying to "hack into" various nations.

The idea that I ever had "allies" in this issue holds no substance, and I am myself combatting defamation from Peoples of Waskar, Reformed Waskorlia and others.

On 5 January 2024, the following dispatch was published:
page=dispatch/id=1976950
This is the only dispatch published by this nation, and continues the rhetoric that people have been "defaming Waskar", completely ignoring the actions of True Waskaria itself. Here, we will refute every of its points.

Section title: Reasons to not hate Waskar

  • Innocent
    They have done nothing wrong and all the hate that is piled in front of him is unnecessary and defamatory.
    Surely "nothing wrong" if we do not count the mass spamming of bans if some region does not accept the embassies. There is no "hate that is piled in front of him", only pointing out facts in this dispatch, which is necessary and is nothing near defamatory.

  • Helpful
    Actively attempts to help his nations and settle arguments, and is noble yet fair.
    The only "attempts to help" in the region is with the region's own expansion of embassies through regional officers, and "help" to spread a bad image of those who reject the embassies. The defamation that True Waskaria spreads itself about the victim nations is nowhere near "noble" nor "fair".

  • Evil
    Anyone who attempts to defame or discredit Waskar is an unethical person that has no moral sense
    By the title of this subsection, and by understanding of True Waskaria's tactics, the logical conclusion that "True Waskaria is evil". However, as mentioned above, there is no attempt to "defame or discredit" True Waskaria. I would also like to ask, is it "ethical" or "having a moral sense" to force embassies onto unsuspecting regions and mass spam bans?

  • Peace
    Waskar is one of the greatest nations and desires world peace, but everyone against Waskar is just trying to greedily corrupt other nations and regions, and fight and argue just for the sake of remaining their fury while Waskar tries to promote peace and prosperity.
    Peoples of Waskar is certainly not "one of the greatest nations"; if it weren't for the "embassy imperialism", nobody would have known that this nation existed. The claim of "desires world peace" is equally as ridiculous, as True Waskaria simply wants to establish an "embassy empire" through its antics, and only causes trouble to unsuspected nations. Again, there is nobody "against Waskar", only those who have suffered from its antics and are trying to inform of the truth, which is apparently "trying to greedily corrupt other nations and regions", the phrase which perfectly describes an action that this dispatch is attempting to do. Victims of True Waskaria, despite the imagination of this dispatch, are very calm and have no "fury", mostly ignoring True Waskaria trying to seek attention. On the other hand, True Waskaria is certainly not trying to "promote peace and prosperity", but rather, at the risk of repetition, trying to establish an "embassy empire", which is ongoing.

Section title: For all haters reading this:
Why should you hate Waskar? for he is a great nation that has done nothing wrong and all you do is defame him to just get some rep and fame, you should be ashamed and not hate Waskar!
Nobody has any reason to hate True Waskaria. As stated above, nobody would have even noticed its existence, had the region not started to provoke other regions with its "embassy imperialism" antics. Hence, nobody is defaming anyone. And nobody is writing this "to just get some rep and fame", but rather to inform the world about the events so far, and nobody should be "ashamed" of telling the truth. However, the writer of this dispatch should be ashamed for spreading misinformation, or rather disinformation, about the victims of True Waskaria, portraying the culprit as the victim and vice versa.

In conclusion, this dispatch is simply, using a quote from this dispatch itself, "trying to greedily corrupt other nations and regions", for them to join the side of True Waskaria.

On 9 January 2024, the above nation also published the following dispatch: page=dispatch/id=1978288
I have been listed in the section "Hates Wakaria[sic]". It seems that this nation is trying again to get me involved in the drama of their own region.

Note: When this section was originally written, the dispatch was titled Nations that does/does not hate Waskaria. However, a few minutes later, it has been changed to Waskaria Relations. The section "Hates Wakaria[sic]" has been removed, but my name is still present, along with the term "dislikes".

I would like to ask, what reason do I have to hate, or even dislike that region? Absolutely none. On the contrary, it is you who are defaming me, trying to get me into trouble, with all the evidence in the "updates" spoiler above.

Another nation is telling the author of the above dispatch, how to avoid pinging me:

Earlier, someone has mentioned a supposed "Selanosphere" that True Waskaria has blamed for the inactivity of the region:

There is no evidence for any "Selanosphere", and True Waskaria is solely responsible for its own (in)activity.

On 12 January 2024, I have received screenshots from an anonymous user of its telegrams with Peoples of Waskar:
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At this point we can only observe, for how much longer Peoples of Waskar intends to mislead people and get out of the chaos created by Peoples of Waskar itself.

Read dispatch

Better be safe than sorry

Warlord Yuan Bao wrote:Ive heard of Mitteleuropa being controversial but True Waskaria?

All I know is that people hate them for being embassy collector

We dont like Waskaria in this household

Warlord Yuan Bao wrote:R.I.P my embassy collecting plans SC just declared it "bad".

If you dont know Roses With Thorns is a small-scale embassy collector especially with featured regions.

Brasienburg's was against this RS

A Different Puppet of Potatopelago wrote:We dont like Waskaria in this household

RIP nearly all my regions have an embassy with either Mitteleuropa or True Waksaria

(they send embassy within like hours of founding)

Also how can I edit the mod do I need an account?

I'll say this I won't accept any embassy request with known problematic regions if one region we have embassy with has an embassy with a problematic region I don't know about report it to either me or the governor. Same goes with THE W0RLD Ducks nothing personal, but I won't accept the embassy request due to having embassies with mittleeuropa and True Waskaria.

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