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State of Germany wrote:In all honesty, it’s perfect.

I definitely agree on what Spaceania mentioned earlier about a stronger executive body which is not elected in the face of an elected body, as I’ve seen too many times that elected regional governments deadlock over important regional issues.

I also don’t believe the WA Delegate should have executive power for two reasons: 1) if an ill-willed individual gets elected he might completely screw the region over and 2) if the founder and WA-Delegate get into a disagreement this might also lead to problems since both have executive powers and therefore can alter the entire regional structure. In addition, if the founder ceases to exist the WA-Delegate gets executive powers automatically.

I literally have nothing to add to your proposals, they’re perfect as is. I’ll look to see if I can make it into law so that everything (like for example temporary suspencion of the powers of the elected branch) gets judicial legitimacy*.

*And for me on a personal note to practice my legislative skills since I’m currently studying Dutch law.

Sounds good to me, I've written far too many constitutions at this point.

Almerdonia wrote:I say we found it as Nasonia so it's simple and easier to find but we call it the Nasonian Union or something like that in the WFE and the RMB.

Sounds good to me.

State of Germany wrote:I’m currently busy writing a constitution for the new region. It is based off the Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany from 1949 with some additions and changes. It also takes into account the temporary situation where there is no active elected part.

Preamble

We, the people of Nasonia, united under our flag, noticing the tyranny seen in other regions, hoping to create a bastion of liberty, democracy and equality under the law on Nationstates, hereby proclaim this Constitution as the supreme law of the region to forever ensure the Union of ourselves and others, to sustain a united and fair government, to promote a truthful and equal society, and to nurture and protect the interests and needs of the people.

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Article 1

  1. The Union shall consist of the the former regions of the Union of Liberal Nations and of Nasunia.

Article 2

  1. The Union shall be named in full the Union of Liberal Nasonia and in short Nasonia. The long name shall be used in all official documents from the Senate, the Government and the Parliament. The short name shall be used in all cases not mentioned previously.

Section II – Citizenship and Rights of the Citizens

Article 3

  1. The dignity of the nations shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority.

  2. The citizens of Nasonia therefore acknowledges inviolable and ​inalienable human rights as the basis of every human community, of peace and of justice in the world.

  3. The following basic rights shall be binding as directly valid law on legislation, administration and judiciary.

Article 4

  1. All nations shall be equal before the law.

  2. No nation may be prejudiced or privileged because of his position, descent, language, homeland and origin, faith or his religious and political opinions.

Article 5

  1. Freedom of faith and conscience and freedom of religious and ideological profession shall be inviolable.

  2. Undisturbed practice of religion shall be guaranteed.

Article 6

  1. Everyone shall have the right, in compliance with the rules given by the Nationstates platform, to freely express and to disseminate his opinion on the Regional Message Board through writing and illustration and, without hindrance, to instruct himself from generally accessible sources. Freedom of the press and freedom of reporting shall be guaranteed. There shall be no censorship. Restrictions may be ordered by law.

  2. Art and science, research and teaching shall be free.

Article 7

  1. Secrecy of the telegram shall be inviolable. Restrictions may be ordered by law.

Article 8

  1. No nation may be deprived of his Nasonian citizenship. The loss of citizenship may occur only on the basis of a law.

Article 9

  1. Every nation shall have the right, individually or jointly with others, to address written requests or complaints to the competent authorities and to the popular representative bodies.

Article 10

  1. Whoever abuses the freedom of expression of opinion, in order to attack the free, democratic basic order, shall forfeit these basic rights. The forfeiture and its extent shall be pronounced by the Senate.

Article 11

  1. Insofar as according to this Constitution a basic right may be restricted by law or empowered by law, the law must apply in general and not solely to the individual case. Furthermore, the law must name the basic right, indicating the Article.

  2. In no case may a basic right be affected in its basic content.

  3. In no case may the basic rights mentioned in Articles 3, 4 and 5 be restricted.

Section III – The Senate

Article X

  1. Text

Section IV – The Government

Article X

  1. The office of Prime Minister shall be the highest elected position.

  2. The Prime Minister shall be elected, without discussion, by the citizens.

  3. The term of office of the Prime Minister shall be three months. Immediate re-election shall be admissible only once.

  4. Elections shall take place not later than ten days before the expiry of the term of office of the Prime Minister, in the case of premature termination not later than ten days after this date.

  5. The person who has received the votes of the majority of the citizens shall be elected. In case of a tie, a run-off shall take place with the two candidates who received the most votes.

Article X

  1. The Prime Minister may not hold any other office beside his own, may not be part of the Council, or hold office in another region.

Article X

  1. On assuming office, the Prime Minister and the Ministers shall take the following oath in the presence of the citizens on the Regional Message Board: "I swear that I shall dedicate my strength to the well-being of the citizens of Nasunia, enhance what is to its advantage, ward off what might harm it, uphold and defend the Constitution and the laws of the Union, fulfil my duties conscientiously and do justice to every man. So help me God." The oath may also be taken without the religious asseveration.

Article X

  1. In the event of the inability of the Prime Minister to perform the duties of his office or in the event of a premature vacancy in the office, the functions of the Prime Minister shall be exercised by the Senate.

Article X

  1. The Prime Minister shall have powers over Appearance, Communications, Border Control, Embassies, and Polls.

  2. Orders and instructions of the Prime Minister shall require for their validity the counter-signature of the King, the President and of the Minister concerned with the matter.

Article X

  1. The Ministers shall be appointed and dismissed by the Senate upon the proposal of the Prime Minister.

  2. The Ministers shall have their powers distributed by the Senate on the recommendation of the Prime Minister.

Article X

  1. The Prime Minister shall determine and assume responsibility for general policy. Within the limits of this general policy, each Minister shall direct his department individually and on his own responsibility. The Government shall decide on differences of opinion between the Ministers. The Prime Minister shall conduct its business in accordance with Standing Orders (Rules of Procedure) adopted by the Government and approved by the Senate.

Article X

  1. The Parliament may express its lack of confidence in the Prime Minister only by electing a successor with the majority of its members and submitting a request to the Senate for the dismissal of the Prime Minister. The Senate may comply with the request and appoint the person elected, but may also choose to decide otherwise if in the interest of the region.

  2. There must be an interval of 48 hours between the motion and the election.

Article X

  1. If a motion of the Prime Minister to receive a vote of confidence does not obtain the support of the majority of the members of the Parliament, the Senate may, upon the proposal of the Prime Minister, dissolve the Parliament within 7 days. The right of dissolution shall lapse as soon as the Parliament, with the majority of its members, elects another Prime Minister.

  2. There must be an interval of 48 hours between the introduction of, and the vote on, the motion.

Article X

  1. The Senate may, empowered by law, without the consent of the Government if such action is in the interest of the well-being of the Union, declare that the Prime Minister is prevented from performing the duties of his office.

Article X

  1. The Prime Minister shall appoint a Minister as his deputy.

  2. The office of the Prime Minister or of a Minister shall end in any case with the assembly of a new Parliament, the office of a Minister also with any other termination of the office of the Prime Minister.

  3. At the request of the Senate, the Prime Minister, a Minister shall be obliged to carry out the duties of his office until the appointment of his successor.

Section V – The Parliament

Article X

  1. Text

Section VI – State of Emergency

Article X

  1. Text

Section VII – Transitional and Concluding Provisions

Article X

  1. The Constitution of the ULN, dated the 2nd of June 2019, shall be repealed and superseded by this document.

  2. The Constitution of Nasunia, dated the 25th of April 2019, shall be repealed and superseded by this document.

  3. The Act on the Restoration of the Region of Nasunia, dated the 31st of May 2021, shall be repealed.

Read factbook

I'll look at it forsure.

Malumynumen wrote:Mainly or solely for RP.

RP Moderators will be permanently selected by RP Admins, founders will elect the also permanent Admins to run RP, position Mods, and approve or pass RP law.

RP and Government do not mix or control each other, unless a trial must intervene or appeal in case of an Rp ban, except the Perma ban.

I am basing this off IOC RP model, the best model.

I say we should at best outright copy it (with permission) or at least be based off it.

I think it would be fair to nominate you to head the RP, unless you don't have the time. No matter, it seems agreeable to me. Another issue is the type of rp but I think that can be more thoroughly decided later on.

I'd volunteer to be cartographer, but I'm pretttyyy sure you banned me after I didnt know the boundaries of Siberia years ago.

Spaceania wrote:Sounds good to me, I've written far too many constitutions at this point.
Sounds good to me.I'll look at it forsure.I think it would be fair to nominate you to head the RP, unless you don't have the time. No matter, it seems agreeable to me. Another issue is the type of rp but I think that can be more thoroughly decided later on.

I'd volunteer to be cartographer, but I'm pretttyyy sure you banned me after I didnt know the boundaries of Siberia years ago.

Have time, laptop broke tho so we need a mapper.

ITS THE URAL MOUNTAINS, LOOK IT UP, I WILL KILL YOU /jk

But if you wanna be temp mapper its ok.

Malumynumen wrote:Have time, laptop broke tho so we need a mapper.

ITS THE URAL MOUNTAINS, LOOK IT UP, I WILL KILL YOU /jk

But if you wanna be temp mapper its ok.

I KNOW GEOGRAPHY BETTER NOW I SWEAR.

But yeah I would be fine with being the temporary mapper.

Malumynumen wrote:Mainly or solely for RP.

RP Moderators will be permanently selected by RP Admins, founders will elect the also permanent Admins to run RP, position Mods, and approve or pass RP law.

RP and Government do not mix or control each other, unless a trial must intervene or appeal in case of an Rp ban, except the Perma ban.

I am basing this off IOC RP model, the best model.

I say we should at best outright copy it (with permission) or at least be based off it.

Okay, I'm guessing we can work with that.

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We will also need a recruitment program. There is about a dozen or more people total involved in this merger, with a large Government and RP, we need a good amount of people.

Spaceania wrote:I KNOW GEOGRAPHY BETTER NOW I SWEAR.

But yeah I would be fine with being the temporary mapper.

Fine then. If you can point out Nagorno-Karabach, Equatorial Guinea and Jamnu and Kashmir on a map I’ll believe you. /jk

That would honestly be great, since my old computer sounds like it’ll burn down the moment it opens a Q-BAM Europe map (which isn’t even that large of a file…)

Almerdonia wrote:Okay, I'm guessing we can work with that.

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We will also need a recruitment program. There is about a dozen or more people total involved in this merger, with a large Government and RP, we need a good amount of people.

We need stamps and send to each successful but small to medium a recruiting telegram.

Also a not so big somewhat if not overly fancy detailed explantion of what we offer, can do and will do not necessarily in that order.

State of Germany wrote:Fine then. If you can point out Nagorno-Karabach, Equatorial Guinea and Jamnu and Kashmir on a map I’ll believe you. /jk

That would honestly be great, since my old computer sounds like it’ll burn down the moment it opens a Q-BAM Europe map (which isn’t even that large of a file…)

Lmao use MSPaint like everyone else.

Also the use of MAPCHART is hereby BANNED.

Malumynumen wrote:Lmao use MSPaint like everyone else.

Also the use of MAPCHART is hereby BANNED.

I only use mapchart to get the outlines of maps, then i make the rest myself.

Almerdonia wrote:I only use mapchart to get the outlines of maps, then i make the rest myself.

They got Eu4 map now which is slightly better.

Malumynumen wrote:They got Eu4 map now which is slightly better.

Yea, I know but its still Mapchart...

Almerdonia wrote:Yea, I know but its still Mapchart...

No I mean to test how they look like in world map, its easier so you know and plot how or where to claim exactly or around of.

Spam this region's link at least once to your friends, groups, parties, nations, continents, planets, systems, galaxies, universes, multiverses, omniverses and YA MOM

State of Germany wrote:I’m currently busy writing a constitution for the new region. It is based off the Basic Law for the Federal Republic of Germany from 1949 with some additions and changes. It also takes into account the temporary situation where there is no active elected part.

Preamble

We, the people of Nasonia, united under our flag, noticing the tyranny seen in other regions, hoping to create a bastion of liberty, democracy and equality under the law on Nationstates, hereby proclaim this Constitution as the supreme law of the region to forever ensure the Union of ourselves and others, to sustain a united and fair government, to promote a truthful and equal society, and to nurture and protect the interests and needs of the people.

Search

Article 1

  1. The Union shall consist of the the former regions of the Union of Liberal Nations and of Nasunia.

Article 2

  1. The Union shall be named in full the Union of Liberal Nasonia and in short Nasonia. The long name shall be used in all official documents from the Senate, the Government and the Parliament. The short name shall be used in all cases not mentioned previously.

Section II – Citizenship and Rights of the Citizens

Article 3

  1. The dignity of the nations shall be inviolable. To respect and protect it shall be the duty of all state authority.

  2. The citizens of Nasonia therefore acknowledges inviolable and ​inalienable human rights as the basis of every human community, of peace and of justice in the world.

  3. The following basic rights shall be binding as directly valid law on legislation, administration and judiciary.

Article 4

  1. All nations shall be equal before the law.

  2. No nation may be prejudiced or privileged because of his position, descent, language, homeland and origin, faith or his religious and political opinions.

Article 5

  1. Freedom of faith and conscience and freedom of religious and ideological profession shall be inviolable.

  2. Undisturbed practice of religion shall be guaranteed.

Article 6

  1. Everyone shall have the right, in compliance with the rules given by the Nationstates platform, to freely express and to disseminate his opinion on the Regional Message Board through writing and illustration and, without hindrance, to instruct himself from generally accessible sources. Freedom of the press and freedom of reporting shall be guaranteed. There shall be no censorship. Restrictions may be ordered by law.

  2. Art and science, research and teaching shall be free.

Article 7

  1. Secrecy of the telegram shall be inviolable. Restrictions may be ordered by law.

Article 8

  1. No nation may be deprived of his Nasonian citizenship. The loss of citizenship may occur only on the basis of a law.

Article 9

  1. Every nation shall have the right, individually or jointly with others, to address written requests or complaints to the competent authorities and to the popular representative bodies.

Article 10

  1. Whoever abuses the freedom of expression of opinion, in order to attack the free, democratic basic order, shall forfeit these basic rights. The forfeiture and its extent shall be pronounced by the Senate.

Article 11

  1. Insofar as according to this Constitution a basic right may be restricted by law or empowered by law, the law must apply in general and not solely to the individual case. Furthermore, the law must name the basic right, indicating the Article.

  2. In no case may a basic right be affected in its basic content.

  3. In no case may the basic rights mentioned in Articles 3, 4 and 5 be restricted.

Section III – The Senate

Article X

  1. Text

Section IV – The Government

Article X

  1. The office of Prime Minister shall be the highest elected position.

  2. The Prime Minister shall be elected, without discussion, by the citizens.

  3. The term of office of the Prime Minister shall be three months. Immediate re-election shall be admissible only once.

  4. Elections shall take place not later than ten days before the expiry of the term of office of the Prime Minister, in the case of premature termination not later than ten days after this date.

  5. The person who has received the votes of the majority of the citizens shall be elected. In case of a tie, a run-off shall take place with the two candidates who received the most votes.

Article X

  1. The Prime Minister may not hold any other office beside his own, may not be part of the Council, or hold office in another region.

Article X

  1. On assuming office, the Prime Minister and the Ministers shall take the following oath in the presence of the citizens on the Regional Message Board: "I swear that I shall dedicate my strength to the well-being of the citizens of Nasunia, enhance what is to its advantage, ward off what might harm it, uphold and defend the Constitution and the laws of the Union, fulfil my duties conscientiously and do justice to every man. So help me God." The oath may also be taken without the religious asseveration.

Article X

  1. In the event of the inability of the Prime Minister to perform the duties of his office or in the event of a premature vacancy in the office, the functions of the Prime Minister shall be exercised by the Senate.

Article X

  1. The Prime Minister shall have powers over Appearance, Communications, Border Control, Embassies, and Polls.

  2. Orders and instructions of the Prime Minister shall require for their validity the counter-signature of the King, the President and of the Minister concerned with the matter.

Article X

  1. The Ministers shall be appointed and dismissed by the Senate upon the proposal of the Prime Minister.

  2. The Ministers shall have their powers distributed by the Senate on the recommendation of the Prime Minister.

Article X

  1. The Prime Minister shall determine and assume responsibility for general policy. Within the limits of this general policy, each Minister shall direct his department individually and on his own responsibility. The Government shall decide on differences of opinion between the Ministers. The Prime Minister shall conduct its business in accordance with Standing Orders (Rules of Procedure) adopted by the Government and approved by the Senate.

Article X

  1. The Parliament may express its lack of confidence in the Prime Minister only by electing a successor with the majority of its members and submitting a request to the Senate for the dismissal of the Prime Minister. The Senate may comply with the request and appoint the person elected, but may also choose to decide otherwise if in the interest of the region.

  2. There must be an interval of 48 hours between the motion and the election.

Article X

  1. If a motion of the Prime Minister to receive a vote of confidence does not obtain the support of the majority of the members of the Parliament, the Senate may, upon the proposal of the Prime Minister, dissolve the Parliament within 7 days. The right of dissolution shall lapse as soon as the Parliament, with the majority of its members, elects another Prime Minister.

  2. There must be an interval of 48 hours between the introduction of, and the vote on, the motion.

Article X

  1. The Senate may, empowered by law, without the consent of the Government if such action is in the interest of the well-being of the Union, declare that the Prime Minister is prevented from performing the duties of his office.

Article X

  1. The Prime Minister shall appoint a Minister as his deputy.

  2. The office of the Prime Minister or of a Minister shall end in any case with the assembly of a new Parliament, the office of a Minister also with any other termination of the office of the Prime Minister.

  3. At the request of the Senate, the Prime Minister, a Minister shall be obliged to carry out the duties of his office until the appointment of his successor.

Section V – The Parliament

Article X

  1. Text

Section VI – State of Emergency

Article X

  1. Text

Section VII – Transitional and Concluding Provisions

Article X

  1. The Constitution of the ULN, dated the 2nd of June 2019, shall be repealed and superseded by this document.

  2. The Constitution of Nasunia, dated the 25th of April 2019, shall be repealed and superseded by this document.

  3. The Act on the Restoration of the Region of Nasunia, dated the 31st of May 2021, shall be repealed.

Read factbook

Well according to this, and this... Nasonia, we have ourselves the leadership roles and how the Government will work and our founder.

So my current plans are:

Saturday 14th Jan- Vote on the Merging
Friday 20th Jan- Vote ends, results displayed.
Saturday 21st January to 28th January- Moving Day (Depending on result)

I was thinking, do we concretely know our goal with this merger? Like do we see this as a new start, a new beginning or the same old stuff but different label?

Kind of like "Nasonya" better than the generic "ia" as ending.

Avarune wrote:I was thinking, do we concretely know our goal with this merger? Like do we see this as a new start, a new beginning or the same old stuff but different label?

Kind of like "Nasonya" better than the generic "ia" as ending.

Also appeals to weebs and cat lovers due the Nya.

And I think all three at the same time

Avarune wrote:I was thinking, do we concretely know our goal with this merger? Like do we see this as a new start, a new beginning or the same old stuff but different label?

Kind of like "Nasonya" better than the generic "ia" as ending.

I see it as all three but more of a new beginning.

Malumynumen wrote:Lmao use MSPaint like everyone else.

I once did (and still do to some extend), but I also use Paint.net because it allows me to use different layers and create maps easier.

Malumynumen wrote:Also the use of MAPCHART is hereby BANNED.

Approved

Avarune wrote:I was thinking, do we concretely know our goal with this merger? Like do we see this as a new start, a new beginning or the same old stuff but different label?

Kind of like "Nasonya" better than the generic "ia" as ending.

Mostly a new beginning, but with consideration for the history of both regions.

Avarune wrote:I was thinking, do we concretely know our goal with this merger? Like do we see this as a new start, a new beginning or the same old stuff but different label?

Kind of like "Nasonya" better than the generic "ia" as ending.

Honestly agree but I think the region is already founded.

Spaceania wrote:Honestly agree but I think the region is already founded.

checked. it isnt

Avarune wrote:checked. it isnt

Yes it is. Nasonia

Almerdonia wrote:Yes it is. Nasonia

I was thinking Spaceania is referring to Nasonya

The vote has been postponed until February at the earliest.

Liberal frankia

Almerdonia wrote:The vote has been postponed until February at the earliest.

Why's that?

Liberal frankia wrote:Why's that?

I have telegrammed you with the reasons why.

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