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Hospitaller West Indies wrote:I donít see how that would change anything, and why that change would matter

It wouldn't.

Segentova and Nurbaria

Miklania wrote:It wouldn't.

...okay?

Nurbaria

Whatís with the massive mountain in Shidei

Nurbaria

Almorea you really have been digging through my factbooks haven't you :p

First subdivisions and now health canon :)

Shidei wrote:Aromea please fix your formatting so it's easy to tell at a glance what's something I said vs your response to it... as for responding, I don't even know where to start so I'm going to start condensing ideas together as I think of points

School shootings have nothing to do with punishment and rewards, it has to do with serious gang culture, a disregard and hands off approach for mental health (especially of relatively well-to-do white males who make up the majority of the mass shooter types), and an overwhelmingly easy access to firearms.

Despite what you seem to think, adults aren't idiots. There's no way that people aren't going to figure out what you're trying to do when strapping them to medical equipment, especially if it's for screening political/power attempts. If I'm in some crazy medical contraption and they start asking me random questions, I'm going to assume that my response is being monitored in some way

Your cookie example is a false dichotomy. The third answer is "the child conspires with others for mutual reward, be it giving one's own cookies to another in return for more down the line, convincing someone to turn a blind eye to the theft, or taking the blame for someone else" and this is what corruption is.

Every last human being can and will be swayed by a bribe of some kind because while we're a social species, the animal instinct is to have control over resources for yourself. It's impossible to prevent this unless you take the human out of the equation. Offer me 20 bucks to go shoot my neighbor? Absolutely not. Offer me 20 million in dubiously tracked slush funds if I help draft a law granting tax exemptions for people like you? That's an entirely different story

Rich people love their money, that's why they move it offshores to places that better protect their money from being taken away

Twice now you've ignored me asking how punishing innocent people isn't punishing innocent people, and why it's acceptable in your imaginary society to do that. Please answer this one, otherwise I'm going to rightly assume you don't have a counterpoint.

Those same adult voted Trump into office, just saying. And even if they figure it out, fooling a machine that tracks the electric impulses of the brain is exponentially more difficult than one that monitors sweating and heart rate.

And here is the kicker, there is no way the close family of someone that is guilty of a crime wouldn't be aware that he is at least doing something that he shouldn't be doing, thus, making them de-facto conspirators. And again, if You have a way to exert the same kind of consequences without punishing their families, do tell.

The example with the cookies is exactly what it is. How can You expect someone that wouldn't discipline their own child's dishonest behavior to discipline an entire nation?

Yes, I am aware of the offshore accounts that rich people have. Now we are getting in the realm of international relations. Such accounts should be made illegal, but I digress.

Corruption and bribes will only exist as long as the system allows it. And the system currently allows it even from the most basic forms of the education system. With other words, a permament sollution would be to completely rebuild the entire structure of the country from the bottom up. And no, I would never take a bribe. In fact, I would rather loose my job than take a bribe. Either I have something wrong with me or it's nature vs nurture. Which opens the "can we nurture the next generations to have a high level of integrity" question.

Now Please, Do give alternative solutions. And I am sorry about my formatting.

Now, gun ownership is a great example of too much freedom is bad for freedom.

These are some wonderful hot takes.

Miklania wrote:These are some wonderful hot takes.

you're reading those?

Corindia wrote:you're reading those?

people read?

Domanania wrote:people read?

wait you guys are people?

Hospitaller West Indies wrote:wait you guys are people?

we're all lizards

Hospitaller West Indies wrote:I donít see how that would change anything, and why that change would matter

Then, how about this. The Spurs which lie off the west coast of South Argus are a perfect place for pirate activity, they are perfectly located in what should be a major trade route. This would be a perfect base for Somali/Malaya type pirates. Your nation, the Swashbucklers anyway could clandestinely finance and profit from this activity, providing a black market for valuables, while officially condemning the activity. You still let the pirate elements get their thrills and donít get stomped as a country.

Domanania wrote:people read?

I work with Customer Service. I can confirm people are incapable to read.

Wellsia wrote:Then, how about this. The Spurs which lie off the west coast of South Argus are a perfect place for pirate activity, they are perfectly located in what should be a major trade route. This would be a perfect base for Somali/Malaya type pirates. Your nation, the Swashbucklers anyway could clandestinely finance and profit from this activity, providing a black market for valuables, while officially condemning the activity. You still let the pirate elements get their thrills and donít get stomped as a country.

that'd be smart Hospitaller West Indies

Nhoor wrote:I work with Customer Service. I can confirm people are incapable to read.

being a secretary in twi should be enough to let you confirm that

Aromea wrote:Now Please, Do give alternative solutions. And I am sorry about my formatting.

No worries on the formatting, it just made it harder for me to go through everything. I'm not here to give alternative solutions, I'm here to look at what you proposed

Hospitaller West Indies wrote:Whatís with the massive mountain in Shidei

I have my capital set on the peak, and when we ship things out we just roll them down the hill to get to the other settlements.

I've been hella slacking on my nation building and really need to get back to that. I have a bunch of ideas rattling around the ol' idea jar, I just need to stake out some time maybe this weekend to add something

Wellsia wrote:Then, how about this. The Spurs which lie off the west coast of South Argus are a perfect place for pirate activity, they are perfectly located in what should be a major trade route. This would be a perfect base for Somali/Malaya type pirates. Your nation, the Swashbucklers anyway could clandestinely finance and profit from this activity, providing a black market for valuables, while officially condemning the activity. You still let the pirate elements get their thrills and donít get stomped as a country.

Now somebody's thinking!

See, smart criminals, of which there are fortunately few IRL, figure out how to get away with their crimes before committing them. For sovereign nations, plausible deniablity is a big help. The Spurs are a good place to be, not only because of the Argusian Main, but because there are also nearby nations that might provide safe havens for pirates... for a price. Unofficially, of course, and possibly legitimately, either because the pirates have solid cover stories* and/or because they're bribing corrupt local officials. Which the national government is of course committed to rooting out.

*: For example, those interested in buckling their swashes might tend to hit ships carrying valuable but untraceable commodities (crude oil and common fuels) and they happen to have an old coastal tanker (or three) to which they can transfer the loot and sell it on the commodities markets without attracting attention. Or inside jobs involving swiping cargo containers carrying phones or other easily fenceable electronics, and ditching them on nearby black markets. Or... Well, you get the idea.

But the Knights Hospitalier appear to have their hands clean, and like all true Christian knights, swear up and down that any pirates will be hanged as a send-off to a warm reception in Hell. *nods*

Ainslie wrote:being a secretary in twi should be enough to let you confirm that

Of course (I'd say that we have seen some great examples in the last two weeks :p ) but TWI is a hobby so I grant people a certain liberty to read or not read the information that will help them survive here as it won't be a matter of life and death in the end (although there is a risk of the various parties involved getting frustrated). I'd say however that customers who need a professional certification to be able to advance in their work instead of having to face the prospect of being fired, will benefit from reading our terms and conditions as well as all relevant information about said certification, but it is as if people don't even possess basic survival instinct anymore :)

Wellsia wrote:Then, how about this. The Spurs which lie off the west coast of South Argus are a perfect place for pirate activity, they are perfectly located in what should be a major trade route. This would be a perfect base for Somali/Malaya type pirates. Your nation, the Swashbucklers anyway could clandestinely finance and profit from this activity, providing a black market for valuables, while officially condemning the activity. You still let the pirate elements get their thrills and donít get stomped as a country.

Thatís a great idea, thank you. So what Iím making from this is while specifically the Swashbucklers can profit from this activity, meanwhile the Order would obviously be strongly against it, and condemn it. This way while the swashbucklers make a profit for the country, not everyone hates our country because the Order is in charge, and condemns this activity.

Message from the Order: If any country captures someone with relations to our country who was caught performing acts of piracy, please return them to the Hospitaller West Indies so they can be tried and gibbeted.

Hospitaller West Indies wrote:Thatís a great idea, thank you. So what Iím making from this is while specifically the Swashbucklers can profit from this activity, meanwhile the Order would obviously be strongly against it, and condemn it. This way while the swashbucklers make a profit for the country, not everyone hates our country because the Order is in charge, and condemns this activity.

This way you can include your favorite pastime as an on going RP, as law enforcement agencies try to stop the illegal sale of goods, a special jewel or national treasure gets stolen and has to be retrieved without any one finding out. There are a dozen different scenarios that could work out from pirates in the Spurs.

Still a tie between 3 flags! If you haven't yet vote!

Trigel wrote:Still a tie between 3 flags! If you haven't yet vote!

You will now have the flag of Ňland

Shidei wrote:I have my capital set on the peak, and when we ship things out we just roll them down the hill to get to the other settlements.

I've been hella slacking on my nation building and really need to get back to that. I have a bunch of ideas rattling around the ol' idea jar, I just need to stake out some time maybe this weekend to add something

Exciting

Miklania wrote:These are some wonderful hot takes.

Would we want to see any other kind of takes? haha

Hospitaller West Indies wrote:You will now have the flag of Ňland

I wanted a different one

Oh it's tied again

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