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Athara Magarat wrote:Yup. An independent (and landlocked+mountainous) Tibet is f@cked from Day 1 if they still border giants like China and India (even more so if this independent Tibet is a theocracy...).

Let's break all big nations. They are way too powerful. Why stop at China? Let's divide India into 532 states, Germany into HRE-style states, carve more states out of Turkey just like with the Ottomans, make each Indonesian island an independent country, free the Ainu and Okinawa from Japan, make all Russian subdivisions independent and do the same sh!t for US, Brazil amd Canada.

Well technically the US states can leave whenever, that was the idea anyways it will fall eventually just like Rome, they all do.

Turn Ohio and Michigan into one unified state for some real fun

The aziran islands

Shidei wrote:Turn Ohio and Michigan into one unified state for some real fun

Give us the UP back.

The aziran islands

Athara Magarat wrote:Yup. An independent (and landlocked+mountainous) Tibet is f@cked from Day 1 if they still border giants like China and India (even more so if this independent Tibet is a theocracy...).

Let's break all big nations. They are way too powerful. Why stop at China? Let's divide India into 532 states, Germany into HRE-style states, carve more states out of Turkey just like with the Ottomans, make each Indonesian island an independent country, free the Ainu and Okinawa from Japan, make all Russian subdivisions independent and do the same sh!t for US, Brazil amd Canada.

Every American county should be independent

Havalland wrote:Well technically the US states can leave whenever, that was the idea anyways it will fall eventually just like Rome, they all do.

Like Rome? Hordes of barbarians will invade Washington DC and crown themselves King of America?

Nhoor wrote:Like Rome? Hordes of barbarians will invade Washington DC and crown themselves King of America?

According to some, this is already happening.

Agadar wrote:According to some, this is already happening.

I was very probably thinking of something completely different :)

Ummn...Aizcona, now that Polar Svalbard is no longer in map...and Aizcona is in more warmer region...what happens to the Grey Bear?

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Also...anybody else wants some animals :P

Also...can I have elephants (as well) if I already have rhinos and bears and other heavyweights?

Havalland wrote:Well technically the US states can leave whenever, that was the idea anyways it will fall eventually just like Rome, they all do.

How do you figure? The last time states tried to leave the Union 600,000 soldiers died forcing them back in, a little thing called the War Between the States.

Wellsia wrote:How do you figure? The last time states tried to leave the Union 600,000 soldiers died forcing them back in, a little thing called the War Between the States.

Personally I think it will be the second civil war, we will have so many factions that the us may just shatter.

Another possibility is an apocalyptic event where we have to rise from the ashes and build something new.
I made an NS scenario like this where WWI didnt end and Europe became a wasteland.

"War Between the States" is getting rather close to "The War of Northern Aggression" when it comes to downplaying the South's responsibility or culpability in regards to the American Civil War

Shidei wrote:"War Between the States" is getting rather close to "The War of Northern Aggression" when it comes to downplaying the South's responsibility or culpability in regards to the American Civil War

yeah I was going to say anything but Civil War/American Civil War is usually a dog whistle

Corindia wrote:yeah I was going to say anything but Civil War/American Civil War is usually a dog whistle

How is that a dog whistle?

Shidei wrote:"War Between the States" is getting rather close to "The War of Northern Aggression" when it comes to downplaying the South's responsibility or culpability in regards to the American Civil War

Corindia wrote:yeah I was going to say anything but Civil War/American Civil War is usually a dog whistle

You can call it the War Between the States, War of Northern Aggression, War for Southern Independence, but at no time except in Missouri and Kansas was it a Civil War. A Civil War is when two sides are fighting to control one nation, at no time did the South want to replace the United States, they just wanted their independence and to peacefully form their own separate country. Kinda like the 13 Colonies did in 1776.

Thanks for your link to "A Welcome and Introduction Dispatch for New Nations"

Nice to see that there are regions that still play on the RMB.
Thanks for letting me visit.
It is now time for me to wander on.

Hey everybody

Wandering Marsupials wrote:It is now time for me to wander on.

Indeed! Amazing how much you differ in character from the Settling Venusdownials ^^

Wellsia wrote:A Civil War is when two sides are fighting to control one nation

The term can be used for any internal war, whatever the reason.

Other terms have largely been 20th century inventions by lost causers

Nothing like a cup of tea and a slice of cake to make me happy on a Monday.

Columbara

Wellsia wrote:You can call it the War Between the States, War of Northern Aggression, War for Southern Independence, but at no time except in Missouri and Kansas was it a Civil War. A Civil War is when two sides are fighting to control one nation, at no time did the South want to replace the United States, they just wanted their independence and to peacefully form their own separate country. Kinda like the 13 Colonies did in 1776.

Also Kentucky and Maryland, and most everywhere else. It's a friggin' civil war.

Corindia wrote:Other terms have largely been 20th century inventions by lost causers

Actually the term “Civil War” didn’t come about to the 1870’s, writers and people of the time called it the Great Rebellion or War of Secession. No matter what you call it, who started it, or even why, it did establish once and forever that states cannot leave the United States.

Wellsia wrote:Actually the term “Civil War” didn’t come about to the 1870’s, writers and people of the time called it the Great Rebellion or War of Secession.

Almost, it took a decade for it to become universally accepted, but it was used from the start of the conflict. It wouldn't be until the 50s and 60s during the Civil Rights Movement when there would be a major push to rename it from some southern groups

Corindia wrote:Civil Rights Movement

Excuse me, I meant to say the movement between the races

When do we carve out Mississippi and float it off into the Gulf as an independent country?

It's, by many different measures, the worst state in the union, so I think in the interest of the other 49 we should take this opportunity to bolster our averages

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