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Polar svalbard... ummm... should i be offering political asylum to anyone who protests against your government and turns up at my airports now... or later???

Brulafi

Polar svalbard

New totzka wrote:Are you okay with the history I sent you or do you want to change anything in it? I don't mean to be pushy with it but I would like to get involved with Wake Sud ASAP :p

I sent you a TG did you not get it?

Ainslie wrote:Polar svalbard... ummm... should i be offering political asylum to anyone who protests against your government and turns up at my airports now... or later???

Naw mate, Svalbardians are fine and the First Wavers probably wont be able to travel soon enough.

Did I mention this has been an ethnic conflict dating back three millenia.

Athara magarat

New totzka
Wow! Interesting. Our 30th Parallel War begins just as your war ends. With constant wars like these, no wonder UCCR eventually collapsed.

New totzka

Polar svalbard wrote:I sent you a TG did you not get it?
Naw mate, Svalbardians are fine and the First Wavers probably wont be able to travel soon enough.

Did I mention this has been an ethnic conflict dating back three millenia.

I’m talking about the human rights groups who think they can question the Svalbardian Government’s human rights record.

Post self-deleted by Athara magarat.

Polar svalbard wrote:I sent you a TG did you not get it?
Naw mate, Svalbardians are fine and the First Wavers probably wont be able to travel soon enough.

Did I mention this has been an ethnic conflict dating back three millenia.

No? The last tg I received from you is from 2 days ago.

Polar svalbard

Ainslie wrote:I’m talking about the human rights groups who think they can question the Svalbardian Government’s human rights record.

Svalbardians on Svalbardian soil, don’t want to make a scene anyways. At least in the wake Isles the blood spilled is far away.

New totzka wrote:No? The last tg I received from you is from 2 days ago.

Hmm. I mean go for some stuff.

Athara magarat

Athara magarat

Thuzbekistan wrote:Wellsia I'm pretty sure Dormill and Stiura invaded Arvan, killing Noronican soldiers in the process for it's own purposes

You know what, the situation in the League is pretty bad if Enchanta is now actually the only League member without any hypocrisy points.

Noronica and Thuzbekistan

Archanta wrote:How did you hear about The Western Isles? Tags on The World

What's some information about yourself (hobbies, interests, country, etc.)? I map on OpenGeoFiction. That's about it

What kind of nation are you trying to make? Small Island nation, good at football, very prosperous.

Oh, I am on Archanta as well with my nation Xsegunis. The multiverse of worlds is small, as they say :)

Archanta


....History
....

Thuzbek politics first saw the light of day in the early 13th century when the first Magistrate built a short lived kingdom in Thuzla between 1310 and 1360. The fifty year reign of the Magistry of Thuzla built the foundations of Thuzlan identity. When Thuzla first took shape in the 14th century, Thuzlan politics were simple and very close the First Magistry- There was a Magistrate and there were the Magistries. Each Magistry was led by a Deputy-Magistrate which were appointed by the Magistrate from Baslov. The Magistrate himself (and it was always a male) was a dynastic ruler born of war. The warrior culture was rugged and the Deputy-Magistrates would often war with each other if there was a week Magistrate in power. However, in the repeated wars against the disunited Turvin, all the Deputy-Magistrates were united. Throughout the 15th, 16th, and 17th centuries, Thuzlan politics slowly became more and more united. There were several coups in the time, replacing the dynasties nearly ever 100-120 years. However, it was not until the Noronican invasion of 1734 that Thuzlan Politics truthfully became the unifying force that would eventually push the Noronican Empire out of Turvin and establish its own government there based on the combined principes of Thuzlan and Turvinian governments.

Before 1734, Turvin had been a republic. Landowners elected representatives who ruled the nation from Ashluv, a large city on the northern coast of Turvin. From the ports of Ashluv, Bashlon, and Nassar brought it great wealth throughout the 17th century. Effective record keeping systems produced a timeline of both slow and rapid reforms. In 1697, for instance, The Republic of Turvin officially abolished the Elder Councils that were ruling the various cities and towns and established an elected local government. While this was only enforced in the larger cities of Ashluv, Bashlon, and Nassar with Carzil and most rural villages stubbornly keeping their systems until just before the Noronican invasion. These changes and the struggle to enforce them highlighted a recurring theme throughout Thuzbek history- The Reformists versus the Islamic conservatives.

Since Islam was introduced between 1000 AD and 1200 AD, Thuzbek history has been littered with cultural battles of old versus new. Even today, Thuzbekistan is in a constant cultural struggle between the Secular Socialists, the Islamic Socialists, and the Islamic Right. This is revealed in Music, Workplace culture, in small towns and cities, and in the misogynistic viewpoints of the rural Thuzbeks. However, the Noronican invasion in 1734 planted the seeds of liberal thought- of the Enlightenment and its secular, meritocratic systems. Since then, the struggle has truly been between these systems and principles and the old interpretations of the Koran.

These differences truthfully came to a head in 1937 when the conservative army overthrew the First Republic of Thuzbek and created the Magistry of Thuzbekistan, a name which was wildly popular and reflected the Islamic origins of the new fascist government. Many of today's current systems were developed under the fascists regime including the Public Education System, the religious infrastructure enjoyed by Imams across Thuzbekistan, and the beginning of nationalization of key industries were all started between 1937 and 1953. But after almost two decades of genocide and oppression, the secularist ideals of the Socialists finally confronted the fascists and, in 1953, overthrew the fascists.

After this, the Socialists established a dicatorship for the next year, then established by decree the Parliament. In the decree, the structure of the new government was laid out:

    1) There would be a Parliament with free and open elections.
    2) The Parliament would have 100 seats
    3) The Government would have an executive branch and a Legislative branch
    4) The Prime Minister would be elected by the parliament.

The new government had essentially handed all power to the fully socialist parliament. Before 1955 was out, several acts further defined how the government would work:

    1) There would be two coalitions- Vanguard and Opposition.
    2) The Vangaurd would be made up of the largest socialist parties at the beginning of each election and those parties would be assigned 60 of the 100 seats. The Opposition would be all other parties and would make up 40 of the 100 seats.
    3) The executive would be controlled by the Prime Minister and would have almost limitless power.
    4) A vote of no confidence could be initiated by any member of parliament but required 65 votes to pass.
    5) The Prime Minister would serve a 6 year term.

Throughout the next years, many amendments and overhauls would be passed, but the basic structure remained the same. The parties themselves, though, rarely did. The International Socialist Party, known for its secular and anti-sovereignty agenda, would consistently be the most powerful party in the government, holding no less than 20 seats of the 60 assigned to the five parties. However, its popularity is only high among socialists themselves, but, given that only verified socialists can vote in vanguard parties, this was clearly not the opinion of the majority. In each election, socialists would elect the Internationalists by a large sum. However, the Vanguard Coalition's total votes have always been close to equal or far less than the opposition's total votes. Despite this, the seats were already assigned.

This is due to the controlled voting system passed in 1961 after a 1958 saw the Islamic Socialist Party and the openly fascist party of Thuzbekistan win a majority of seats in the opposition and enabled the right wing to control the swing votes. After this incident, the "Voting Act of 1961" defined who could belong to a party, stating the following:

"Believing in the security of the party's ideology from outside threat by means of insidious voting from within, this act hereby establishes the following requirements to join any party:

    1. The individual seeking entrance to a party must be checked and the individual's ideology confirmed by the party in question to be one with the party's ideology.

    2. The party in question must ensure that the individual is honest. It will be the party's responsibility to ensure ideological solidarity.

    3. If the party does not verify the individual's ideology, then the party will be reprimanded by the Coalition and the Government.

    4. In order to vote, an individual must join a party."

Initially, this was met with mass protests. However, as 1961 became 1962, those protests shifted attention to the oncoming famine. By the end of 1963, over 50,000 Thuzbeks were dead and at least 300,000 thousand were near death. Only aid from the UCCR stopped the spreading famine. Even so, nearly 100,000 Thuzbeks died of government inefficiency.


....Justice System
....

Overview

The Ministry of Justice is the center of all legal activities in the People's Republic. Technically a part of the Thuzbek Government's Executive Branch, it has maintained a status of independence and set itself to a standard of objectivity and respect for procedure since it was founded in 1955 despite its first cases being to try the war criminals that survived the revolution. At the head of the Ministry is the Minister of Justice, who is appointed by the Prime Minister. Below the Minister of Justice is the Deputy Minister, who is also appointed by the Prime Minister. These ministers are primarily responsible with the administering of the ministry itself rather than the leading of the courts. Instead, a panel of 10 former judges and lawyers are voted in by judges presiding over the courts. This panel approves new judges and lawyers and holds them accountable as well as setting the ethics and procedural rules of the courts. This separation of powers is only found within the Ministry of Justice, which is the only ministry which strives to be objective and apolitical.

Organization

Local Courts:
  • Minor disputes (small claims)

  • Misdemeanor Criminal and Civil violations

  • Local filings (marraige, divorce, custody, etc.)

Provincial Courts:

  • Major Disputes (large claims)

  • Major Criminal and civil violations

  • Inter-district disputes (city vs. city or district)

  • Appeals from lower courts

National Court:

  • Crimes against the state

  • Inter-Provincial disputes

  • Appeals from lower courts

  • Rulings on acts of Parliament

  • Inter-government disputes and appeals


The Justice Ministry is divided into two sections: Administrative and Judiciary. While the Minister of Justice and the Deputy Minister both technically control the entire ministry, their roles are limited to the administrative tasks of running the Ministry rather than the courts themselves. The Courts are controlled by the Judiciary Council, which is elected by the presiding judges at the time. The Judiciary Council has the power to move cases, replace judges and attorneys, and to dissolve courts if need be. The courts themselves are divided into three groups: the Local, Provincial, and National Courts. The Local courts are the most numerous, presiding over small towns, districts, and cities. The Provincial Courts are the next level above them and have courthouses in Baslov, Ashluv, Nassar, and Bashlon. The National Court is headed in Ashluv and are presided over by a triumvirate of judges appointed by the Judiciary Council.

Court Procedure and Make Up

All court rooms in Thuzbekistan are run by three judges except for the National Court, which is run by five judges. In most trials, a panel of six peers are present and assist in ruling on guilty or not guilty. While the main arguments are made to the panel, judges vote independently of their ruling, using it mostly as an advisory committee. This was not originally how the courts were run, but without a specific clause in the "Justice Acts" (which created the courts in the Revolutionary Decade) to bind the judges to the ruling of the Panel, there was no reason for the judges to adhere to that ruling. However, it is the norm to do so.

When a case makes it to trial, the judges read the charges out to the accused, who pleads guilty or not guilty. On a not guilty plea, the accuser's representative (not necessarily a lawyer) will argue the case. The Defendant's representative then argues their case, attempting to disprove the accuser's case as there is no presumption of innocence in Thuzbekistan. Any evidence to support the cases would have been made known to all parties and been entered into the court preceding the trial. Once the trial is completed, the Panel will convene to vote and rule on the guilt or innocence of the defendant. Once the verdict is made, the judges will vote on both the verdict and the sentencing in private chambers. Upon reaching a decision, they will announce their decision either in writing or in the court room to the defendant.

Requirements of a Judge

Judges are the power holders of the Judicial system in Thuzbekistan. From the lowest of courts to the National Court, judges decide the fate of Thuzbeks everywhere whether they find themselves in Parliament, the executive, or on the streets of Ashluv. As such, the Judiciary Council has strict requirements of who becomes a judge and who cannot. These requirements hold judges to a high level of moral and ethical standard and have been fashioned from decades of tweaking since their creation. The requirements, also called the Judicial Code, were introduced in their present form in 1998:

The Judicial Code Memorandum of 1998
An Applicant for a judge must be:

  • At least 65 Years of Age,

  • Of good moral and ethical upstanding, finding themselves with a clean record, in Allah's good graces, and a trusted member of their community,

  • Educated by an accredited University

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I'm building up my justice system for an intrigue RP I have in mind ty to Ostehaar. I've been building a legal case up for the last week about freedom of speech in both parliament and in the state media. It should be fun.

Ostehaar, Athara magarat, and Wellsia

Nhoor wrote:Oh, I am on Archanta as well with my nation Xsegunis. The multiverse of worlds is small, as they say :)

Haha! Small world! Technically, the name of my nation is Archanta, but its the Federal States of.

I've got two questions:

1. How does Twikipedia work?
2. Like Israel or Georgia, could one nation be in one region but choose to join another confederation in IFAF?

Archanta wrote:I've got two questions:

1. How does Twikipedia work?
2. Like Israel or Georgia, could one nation be in one region but choose to join another confederation in IFAF?

1: Grab an article format from the templates page, and once you finish the article and post it, it'll mention the TWIkipedia nation, managed by Ainslie who will add it to the portal dispatch.
2: Yes. What confederation were you thinking of joining?

Dormill and Stiura wrote:1: Grab an article format from the templates page, and once you finish the article and post it, it'll mention the TWIkipedia nation, managed by Ainslie who will add it to the portal dispatch.
2: Yes. What confederation were you thinking of joining?

UAFA. It's closer HQ-wise.

Archanta wrote:UAFA. It's closer HQ-wise.

Athara magarat has pureview over the UAFA but it's fine if you join them over your current confederation. Once you're on the map, I'll make that change.

Athara magarat and Archanta

Dormill and Stiura wrote:Athara magarat has pureview over the UAFA but it's fine if you join them over your current confederation. Once you're on the map, I'll make that change.

Thanks!

Dormill and Stiura and Athara magarat

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=337003&p=35789446#p35789446
Don't mind me, just firing very very passive-aggressive shots at socialism.

Athara magarat and Archanta

And of course I have troubles finding thr UAFA preview. Can somebody link that?

Thepenguinland and Brulafi

Thepenguinland

Polar svalbard wrote:But yeah, Thuz is right you'll definitely need a more realistic name

I'm not opposed to this, as obviously I want to rp and be active in this region.
The only thing is I don't know what to change it to, I chose this name as a sort of semi-realistic one, but over time I managed to come up with ways to make it seem slightly more realistic.
Anyway, I should probably fill out that etmology page in my factbook.

Archanta

viewtopic.php?p=35789497#p35789497

This was originally part of the last post, separated by an [ hr ] line. You can see why a I split it.

Austrovik-Germania wrote:viewtopic.php?f=4&t=337003&p=35789446#p35789446
Don't mind me, just firing very very passive-aggressive shots at socialism.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=357511&p=35789568#p35789568

Some random scrub in Thuzbekistan tweets angrily at you

Thuzbekistan wrote:viewtopic.php?f=4&t=357511&p=35789568#p35789568

Some random scrub in Thuzbekistan tweets angrily at you

Jalmed sounds like the type of guy who if you bumped into him by accident in the pub and you apologize and everything, he'd just shout out you and go "YOU WANNA TAKE THIS OUTSIDE FAM?????"

Thuzbekistan and Brulafi

Austrovik-Germania wrote:Jalmed sounds like the type of guy who if you bumped into him by accident in the pub and you apologize and everything, he'd just shout out you and go "YOU WANNA TAKE THIS OUTSIDE FAM?????"

that is the intent

Brulafi

Does anybody have any interesting ides for a legislative branch to go with a Presidential system?

Thuzbekistan wrote:that is the intent

Dam my whole government shall back down to the might of Jalmed alone.

Thuzbekistan and Thepenguinland

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