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Union of Silver States Union wrote:Alright alright. I learned my mistake and understood it.

Imma be honest, I think the Welts need some more nerfs. A lot more nerfs. Dies to an IRL WW2-era anti-tank rifle nerfs.

Also, we both need lower GDPs. I'm bumping mine back down to 40T.

The Workers United wrote:Imma be honest, I think the Welts need some more nerfs. A lot more nerfs. Dies to an IRL WW2-era anti-tank rifle nerfs.

Also, we both need lower GDPs. I'm bumping mine back down to 40T.

... And who said they weren't vulnerable to that?

And they didn't participate in any combat recently.

So no. They're staying as they are.

Union of Silver States Union wrote:... And who said they weren't vulnerable to that?

And they didn't participate in any combat recently.

So no. They're staying as they are.

It was implied by the fact that the Welts literally took zero casualties in Greece. Anti-tank rifles and missiles are generally considered to be part of infantry's usual loadout, so they would have taken casualties. And no, using mini-missiles as I remember you saying wouldn't work. Have you seen the size of an active protection system?
No active protection.
No invisibility.
No jump-packs.
There simply isn't the space.

The Workers United wrote:It was implied by the fact that the Welts literally took zero casualties in Greece. Anti-tank rifles and missiles are generally considered to be part of infantry's usual loadout, so they would have taken casualties. And no, using mini-missiles as I remember you saying wouldn't work. Have you seen the size of an active protection system?
No active protection.
No invisibility.
No jump-packs.
There simply isn't the space.

They didn't mention it. And I'll remove the invisibility.

I'll remove the jumpacks too. Heck I can even remove their legs.

Union of Silver States Union wrote:I'll remove the jumpacks too. Heck I can even remove their legs.

Bro, I just need you to understand that there are physical limitations to how much stuff you can fit in one backpack, especially in a two-ton monstrosity with a quarter of the battery power of an electric car, while operating at half the efficiency at best. I'm only talking about this now because your stubbornness in insisting that your impossible troops are so superior to everyone else's in every way that you literally never take casualties just cost us one of the best, most active players in this region. And also, just maybe, because you said you wanted to "fix" the doubts that my people feel about having you as my ally, that were completely justified considering how you treat your enemies on the battlefield.
But above all, you must understand that everybody bleeds. Whether you bee Cybrex warform, Anime protagonist, or hellish mutant, you can always bleed. And if it bleeds, it can die. It's my job to prevent that from happening too much. Remember that.
I have to go now. I'll be back in the morning.

Union of Silver States Union wrote:Synodos Sacrilege, Open Your Eyes
Post by Union of Silver States Union » Thu Aug 22, 2024 7:37 pm
Your figures are horribly inflated; even with guerilla warfare we have special units that engage in melee combat to deal with those effectively. The missile strikes were largely ineffective due to the Welts possessing anti-projectile technology on their jump-packs, launching small rockets to intercept the small missiles before much damage is done.

Fair enough. Removing them.

The Workers United wrote:It was implied by the fact that the Welts literally took zero casualties in Greece. Anti-tank rifles and missiles are generally considered to be part of infantry's usual loadout, so they would have taken casualties. And no, using mini-missiles as I remember you saying wouldn't work. Have you seen the size of an active protection system?
No active protection.
No invisibility.
No jump-packs.
There simply isn't the space.

IKR! Its impossible

The Workers United wrote:Bro, I just need you to understand that there are physical limitations to how much stuff you can fit in one backpack, especially in a two-ton monstrosity with a quarter of the battery power of an electric car, while operating at half the efficiency at best. I'm only talking about this now because your stubbornness in insisting that your impossible troops are so superior to everyone else's in every way that you literally never take casualties just cost us one of the best, most active players in this region. And also, just maybe, because you said you wanted to "fix" the doubts that my people feel about having you as my ally, that were completely justified considering how you treat your enemies on the battlefield.
But above all, you must understand that everybody bleeds. Whether you bee Cybrex warform, Anime protagonist, or hellish mutant, you can always bleed. And if it bleeds, it can die. It's my job to prevent that from happening too much. Remember that.
I have to go now. I'll be back in the morning.

couldn't agree more
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New News Report!!! (Yes, there are still a lot of clans and tribes in Kyrek, we haven't really urbanized so many Kyrekians still live in tribes and are nomadic)

Hey guys, this is very important so plz answer:

Where does your nation get money from to help pay for everything in ur nation and military and space programs and stuff? (And don't just say taxes cuz that's not how it works, say stuff like trade and stuff)

Kyrek gets a lot of its money from exporting oil and natural gas to TK, Tritonios, Synodos and DEUS. (Actually, I might be wrong of the Tritonios one, fact check me on that Tritonios). We also have a big fish industry, but I mean, that only accounts for a small amount.

Union of Silver States Union wrote:Fair enough. Removing them.

Don't remove them, just dial them tf back.

Kyrek wrote:Hey guys, this is very important so plz answer:

Where does your nation get money from to help pay for everything in ur nation and military and space programs and stuff? (And don't just say taxes cuz that's not how it works, say stuff like trade and stuff)

Kyrek gets a lot of its money from exporting oil and natural gas to TK, Tritonios, Synodos and DEUS. (Actually, I might be wrong of the Tritonios one, fact check me on that Tritonios). We also have a big fish industry, but I mean, that only accounts for a small amount.

Well, other than my economic output, I also export large amounts of raw resources.

Kyrek wrote:Hey guys, this is very important so plz answer:

Where does your nation get money from to help pay for everything in ur nation and military and space programs and stuff? (And don't just say taxes cuz that's not how it works, say stuff like trade and stuff)

Kyrek gets a lot of its money from exporting oil and natural gas to TK, Tritonios, Synodos and DEUS. (Actually, I might be wrong of the Tritonios one, fact check me on that Tritonios). We also have a big fish industry, but I mean, that only accounts for a small amount.

Vadinia would actually be fairly self-sufficient with where they're positioned in the Caucasus, having the most rich oil fields of the former Soviet Union (Correct me if I'm wrong on that). But you could definitely have a greater monopoly over Theofania. They DO also have access to a grand amount of oil, but not to the extent Vadinia does. Both nations also are not very happy neighbors considering Vadinia is the remnants of the old Tritonion government and Theofania rebelled from them.

On another note, I started making a fictional language and I'm already confusing words together. I have some words established, though. Like "The woman goes to fight the aggressive animal" can be translated to "Deʧ ʧeran obueres kamste a kertan." The word order is identical to English: Subject, Verb, Object.

Btw, how come Aber Antarctica left?

The Workers United wrote:Don't remove them, just dial them tf back.

Denied.

But, I can remove the essence of all these problems.

I need the break anyway.

The Workers United wrote:Btw, how come Aber Antarctica left?

He left for another region around a week or two ago, seemed quite active there.

Kyrek wrote:Hey guys, this is very important so plz answer:

Where does your nation get money from to help pay for everything in ur nation and military and space programs and stuff? (And don't just say taxes cuz that's not how it works, say stuff like trade and stuff)

Kyrek gets a lot of its money from exporting oil and natural gas to TK, Tritonios, Synodos and DEUS. (Actually, I might be wrong of the Tritonios one, fact check me on that Tritonios). We also have a big fish industry, but I mean, that only accounts for a small amount.

Taxes :P.

To be not annoying: biggest industries in the ASYF (Allied States of the Ypres Front) used to be IT, and manufacturing. You'll have noticed I do lots of military research, which comes from the technology sector.
Now that I have the former Spacelandia and STC, agriculture is now much larger, and mining and other raw resources.
I'm mainly exporting tech, food, and raw resources, mostly to the other socialist states.

Union of Silver States Union wrote:Denied.

I'm serious, you don't need to remove them! They're amazing! They're interesting! They're what you built your entire nation around! I cannot imagine a Silver Union without the Welts. And I have a plan for how they could realistically work! If you bump back your Naval and Air tech a bit (which me and Ypres can help cover for), and instead invest that into Energy storage, Hydraulics, Armour and possibly Munitions, you could have a version of the welts that, while a lot more clumsy and vulnerable, would actually work! By using hydraulic tubes powering pistons, all controlled by a series of computerized valves located in the backpack, it would be able to carry enough armour to deflect most small arms fire, up to modern rifles! A squad of these Welts would have a combat effectiveness of about 3 to 4-1, meaning that for every Welt that dies, they kill 3 to 4 standard soldiers. Accompanied by a vehicle like the one we developed for Project Unpenetrable would likely double their effectiveness! And this isn't even considering the fact that your idea of specialised brigades would still work! Flamethrowers, Machine guns, and even Melee weapons are still on the table! Hell, even things like the Kraken could still work! While it would be unfeasible for something that walks on the ocean floor to be capable of traversing the open ocean, if they were big enough, they could make you practically invulnerable to naval invasion! All I ask is that you stop thinking of them as Space Marines, and start thinking of them as similar to Fallout Power Armour.
Please?

Oh no
No no no no no
Nononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononono

The Workers United wrote:Oh no
No no no no no
Nononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononononono

:(
did he just leave????

Kyrek wrote::(
did he just leave????

Ya. :'(

The Dragon Empire of United States wrote:Ya. :'(

but why :(

Kyrek wrote:but why :(

They didn't like that their catch all OP weapons had to be nerfed.

The Dragon Empire of United States wrote:They didn't like that their catch all OP weapons had to be nerfed.

D:
But its so much more fun without the op weapons, at least ya'll agree :)

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