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Chucky the doll

New fern wrote:precisely that

Some people are honestly just ... I can't, really. I have no time for that!

New fern

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The church of satan

Chucky the doll wrote:I don't think it's self-hating to self-police and control yourself and your actions. God will forgive you regardless if you call unto Him. Good day.

But it isn't self-policing. Not from their perspective. From their perspective you're doing something bad. You're having bad thoughts. Thinking evil things.

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Chucky the doll

The church of satan wrote:But it isn't self-policing. Not from their perspective. From their perspective you're doing something bad. You're having bad thoughts. Thinking evil things.

Of course. Makes sense. That's why you should self-police and exhibit self-control...no?

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Chucky the doll

New fern wrote:Just kill people when you want to. It's not like there's a consequence.

Certainly not in some countries where you just get a slap on the wrist while impacted families of heinous crimes eternally suffer.

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Chucky the doll

New fern wrote:Plus, religion is a binding factor.
Civilizations in ancient times collapsed due to too much irreligiosity.
Religion determined alliances and enemies in medieval times.
Religious values from Christianity influence Western Civilization to be how it is.

This is exactly what's going on in The West. They've turned their backs on God. The results will be dire. They're already evident.

New fern

The church of satan

Chucky the doll wrote:Of course. Makes sense. That's why you should self-police and exhibit self-control...no?

Exactly. But many religions demand abstinence rather than self-control.

Chucky the doll wrote:This is exactly what's going on in The West. They've turned their backs on God. The results will be dire. They're already evident.

I like to think we're slowly rising above the need for a god. Very slowly. We'll get there.

Chucky the doll

The church of satan wrote:Exactly. But many religions demand abstinence rather than self-control.
I like to think we're slowly rising above the need for a god. Very slowly. We'll get there.

All of this made me laugh. Thanks for the entertainment.

New fern

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Cains conspirators

Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

New fern

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The church of satan

Chucky the doll wrote:All of this made me laugh. Thanks for the entertainment.

New fern wrote:No civilization will succeed without a religion.

Oh come now. Even Christianity is slowly becoming better than it was. Think about it. No more witch hunts or human sacrifices. Religion is evolving. A bit more slowly than much of humanity, but it's making small, incremental progress. Eventually, I think all god-fearing religions will move towards something better than its rigid rules.

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The church of satan

New fern wrote:Christianity is not a Fear-Based religion. Those were ancient religions, which we have moved on from. Also, Christianity never sacrificed humans.

Oh, but it is! Much like Islam, god loves you, but you're not free from his wrath either. Just one slip up and you better pray for forgiveness or it's fire and flames for you.

Oh, but there was! Burning one sinner at the stake so the rest of the village won't face the wrath of god? Sounds like a human sacrifice to me.

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Cains conspirators

New fern wrote:Instead, Christianity is Guilt-Based.
A good source to prove my point is https://public.tableau.com/app/profile/jayson.georges/viz/GlobalMapofCultureTypesFINAL_1/GlobalMapofCultureTypes?publish=yes

Oh no no no, we use the bible in our discussions about Christianity. If outside sources are allowed, than we must consider that there have been originally Christian cults which legitimately practiced human sacrifice, and so on.

It'd be like selectively quoting the Talmud to try and show that "Judaism allows for child murder"

Cains conspirators

New fern wrote:First, Islam sees itself as the better and updated version of Christianity, so of course it will be similar.
Second, you are implying that one should not be punished for their actions, one should not be imprisoned for shoplifting. I use an eye for an eye for human life. If you killed someone, you should have to suffer being killed too.

That just makes two dead people. No one should be punished for their actions; they should be rehabilitated. If that is not possible, than they should be killed.

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The church of satan

New fern wrote:First, Islam sees itself as the better and updated version of Christianity, so of course it will be similar.
Second, you are implying that one should not be punished for their actions, one should not be imprisoned for shoplifting. I use an eye for an eye for human life. If you killed someone, you should have to suffer being killed too.

That doesn't justify killing someone for not believing in god, disagreeing with the church, etc.

So lemme get this straight: are you defending witch hunts and human sacrifice? :P

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