Oki, sorry about being late on this - I thought it was nowhere near queue when I last checked 3 days ago and suddenly it's here @_@
But the proposal I'm talking about is The World Assembly (GA) proposal International Scientific Cooperation!
Establish a place for nations to exchange ideas
Create an international scientific database
Give grants to nations to help with research
Everything else about the resolution focuses on giving more detail towards those responsibilities. The resolution focuses on further points in Article IV (where it lists the right of member nations in regards to interacting with the ISCA), Article V (the process for ISCA review of research submitted to be included in its database), and Article VI (detailing the establishment and duties of the ISCA Oversight Board, which aims to help resolve ISCA-related disputes).
Councillor opinion time!
I personally feel the resolution is well written in some aspects and serves a good purpose. I do feel it can be vague in certain parts, but whether that actually matters is something I don't have enough GA experience to measure yet.
However, there is a contradiction within the resolution, shown by Junitaki-cho on the Calref Discord, which is a point of concern.
Essentially, Article II(1)(b) reads:
Yet Article IV(b) reads:
Which means the database is supposed to be public but also is not inherently public at the same time. Junitaki-cho also raised a concern about the definition of "peer review" as not mandating peer review from an expert in the same field as the scientific paper. While this isn't necessarily a bad thing as the ISCA can establish further quality requirements, it is an oversight on the author's part.
In the same discussion I found another contradiction, based on Article IIIb. which reads:
and Article IVa., which reads:
Essentially, I think a nation could arguably secure funding from the ISCA per IIIb., then state it has the right to withhold its work per Article IVa - thereby gaining funding yet not returning anything to the ISCA. A flaw that can be abused.
For these reasons and considering it is at vote, I therefore recommend voting AGAINST this resolution. However, I'd still like to hear y'alls thoughts! How is your nation voting on this - and why? ovo
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Thanks for writing this up, Zuk ^-^ (just giving it a little signal boost here).
Since the regional vote is still trending opposite my ultimate vote, I'm going to point to the wider discussions within the server that you summarised in the spoilered portion of your post. I'd gone into this vote with no real opinion on the proposal but was more than convinced to vote against by watching the discussion unfold.
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1. The way I read it, The DB is public, but only among the nations that are part of the science-sharing community. Just like "publicly available" could be limited to people above a certain age, so may other restrictions apply.
2. It is the responsibility of the nation asking for the grant to ensure the product of their research meets the conditions in IVa before applying for the grant. It is clear from IIIb that failure to do so disqaulifies the nation from receiving the grant.
This is my personal reading, so I voted For. I understand the concern of people reading it differently but personally disagree.
my post was deleted i am mad, writing this times 2
I think definitions of publicly-accessible can vary on whether they include restricting access (i.e. access to the "general" public) or open to all.
Because there is a strong possibility one can interpret publicly accessible as not allowing restricting access itself (example shown here), I still think it is at the very least a likely contradiction, even if not a sure one as I was arguing earlier.
So, definitely a good point.
A nation could shirk that responsibility on purpose, obtain as much from the grant they can, and then utilize their IVa right to prevent from giving any of their work. I do not believe the fact that they promise a commitment in IIIb prevents them from exercising their right later on - they always have the right to determine when to give their research as no exception is given.
I imagine this could only be abused once per nation/group/person, but it's still a pretty not-so-great thing imo
That's totally fine! I really appreciate your thoughts on this ^-^ Thank you for sharing them, they're good points.
While the GA discussion is always open, I'd also like to raise notice towards our newest World Assembly resolution (SC) International Maxtopia Day, written by the glorious Honeydewistania!
This resolution is a more jokey declaration regarding the nation of Maxtopia, whom I'm 99% sure is owned by Max Barry and/or NS staff. Maxtopia is a nation that often appears in issues as an important focus point, as the resolution alludes to. It was also one of the first nations created in NationStates and passed the first resolution of the United Nations (the WA's predecessor) and the World Assembly - via admin mechanics than actual voting. After stating on elaborating on these WA-related facts, the resolution goes over some of the more notable (and arguably 'noble') characteristics Maxtopia showcases throughout national issues. The proposal then concludes that November 13th should be made International Maxtopia Day, in honor of Maxtopia's widespread influence across the globe in fighting corruption and instituting the World Assembly.
In my opinion, I like the resolution a lot. A lot of work is put into it to make it very well written and I appreciate the loose language that often makes the same appearance in issues. I also like that the very long-form and pretty format similar to Condemn Golgoth (per Condemn Golgoth's author's own words as well) was put to great use for this. In otherwords, its extremely creative and a funny proposal! I'll be honest and say that I do think this would've been interesting in an alternate more serious RP-ish format as well, but I get the entire point of the resolution was to kinda play off the joke trend of bringing back old UN resolutions which is completely fair. Either way, as I said, a really awesome resolution and many props to Honey for writing something so well-made. (And arguably the best joke resolution we've had in a looong time.)
So that's my opinion! I'm off to bed twt. But before I go, I'll drop an easy recommendation FOR this resolution and yet ask - what do you all think on this resolution?