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Xakememorinatri

Lennia wrote:Run for Caesar.

There are presently no constitutional reasons why they can't to stop them from doing so.

I will, and I will do so solely to stop one nation already involved in controversy from taking a second seat of power.

Ultorieth and Iliodentra

Mondlicht states

I don't know about you all, but It's a little funny how my nation's description says that one reason that crime is nonexistent because of "progressive welfare policies" even though it immediately contradicts the introduction that says I have absolutely zero welfare.

Lennia, Naralanesia, Broken Edge, and Kappa lambda epsilon mu

Mondlicht states wrote:I don't know about you all, but It's a little funny how my nation's description says that one reason that crime is nonexistent because of "progressive welfare policies" even though it immediately contradicts the introduction that says I have absolutely zero welfare.

You have evolved past the need for welfare

Ultorieth, Naralanesia, Broken Edge, and Mondlicht states

These united socialists

These united socialists would like to announce its intent to run for Caesar of our great region. Oatland has been amid great controversy in which our Nation has been in the middle of, but We hope that we have moved passed those issues. We do not hold any hard feelings towards anyone on how things were handled and We hope everyone here has forgiven us. That being said We believe that We are Oatland’s best option for Caesar. Our Nation has held office for 62 consecutive days as our WA delegate, as of writing this, and we have put forward what the people of Oatland want to see changed in the world before any personal agenda. We are also the third most influential Nation in our region behind only our founder Lennia and The Peoples Place of Living who are the two nations that hold the top two spots in the residency have our region. As Caesar I promise to hold office with integrity, dignity and respect for the office and our region. This is an election that matters for the future of Oatland and can bring about change or effectively do nothing. Under the eyes of the current and previous administrations Our government has fallen behind. Our constitution has been voted to be changed but has not been edited, our government page has not been updated since before the previous elections for Caesar and censor, and we have a banned nation still technically in our senate according to our government page. We don’t even have a welcome telegram. These are all things that We will immediately push to be fixed if elected for Caesar. Vote for me in the upcoming election and you will see the change you want in this region. Long Live Oatland!

- Your WA delegate
These united socialists

Xakememorinatri

These united socialists wrote:These united socialists would like to announce its intent to run for Caesar of our great region. Oatland has been amid great controversy in which our Nation has been in the middle of, but We hope that we have moved passed those issues. We do not hold any hard feelings towards anyone on how things were handled and We hope everyone here has forgiven us. That being said We believe that We are Oatland’s best option for Caesar. Our Nation has held office for 62 consecutive days as our WA delegate, as of writing this, and we have put forward what the people of Oatland want to see changed in the world before any personal agenda. We are also the third most influential Nation in our region behind only our founder Lennia and The Peoples Place of Living who are the two nations that hold the top two spots in the residency have our region. As Caesar I promise to hold office with integrity, dignity and respect for the office and our region. This is an election that matters for the future of Oatland and can bring about change or effectively do nothing. Under the eyes of the current and previous administrations Our government has fallen behind. Our constitution has been voted to be changed but has not been edited, our government page has not been updated since before the previous elections for Caesar and censor, and we have a banned nation still technically in our senate according to our government page. We don’t even have a welcome telegram. These are all things that We will immediately push to be fixed if elected for Caesar. Vote for me in the upcoming election and you will see the change you want in this region. Long Live Oatland!

- Your WA delegate
These united socialists

I find it reprehensible that you would even think about running for Caesar after what you and Saturnalia put this region through. The fact that you act like everything should be hunky dory and you deserve a second seat of power is, quite frankly, disgusting.

I will be running against you to make sure you do NOT get a second seat of power because regardless of your "influence", you aren't to be trusted.

Thanks for not holding any hard feelings towards us, what a blessing. The feeling is far from mutual.

These united socialists wrote:These united socialists would like to announce its intent to run for Caesar of our great region. Oatland has been amid great controversy in which our Nation has been in the middle of, but We hope that we have moved passed those issues. We do not hold any hard feelings towards anyone on how things were handled and We hope everyone here has forgiven us. That being said We believe that We are Oatland’s best option for Caesar. Our Nation has held office for 62 consecutive days as our WA delegate, as of writing this, and we have put forward what the people of Oatland want to see changed in the world before any personal agenda. We are also the third most influential Nation in our region behind only our founder Lennia and The Peoples Place of Living who are the two nations that hold the top two spots in the residency have our region. As Caesar I promise to hold office with integrity, dignity and respect for the office and our region. This is an election that matters for the future of Oatland and can bring about change or effectively do nothing. Under the eyes of the current and previous administrations Our government has fallen behind. Our constitution has been voted to be changed but has not been edited, our government page has not been updated since before the previous elections for Caesar and censor, and we have a banned nation still technically in our senate according to our government page. We don’t even have a welcome telegram. These are all things that We will immediately push to be fixed if elected for Caesar. Vote for me in the upcoming election and you will see the change you want in this region. Long Live Oatland!

- Your WA delegate
These united socialists

Xakememorinatri wrote:I find it reprehensible that you would even think about running for Caesar after what you and Saturnalia put this region through. The fact that you act like everything should be hunky dory and you deserve a second seat of power is, quite frankly, disgusting.

I will be running against you to make sure you do NOT get a second seat of power because regardless of your "influence", you aren't to be trusted.

Thanks for not holding any hard feelings towards us, what a blessing. The feeling is far from mutual.

I agree with Xakememorinatri on this, and will vote for them in the upcoming election.

I would just like to clarify that the only one who can physically edit the constitution and related links above would be the owner of the dispatch the links go to. It's a technical limitation of the game or at least the current system we use. In order for it to be changed someone with proper authority would need to use the admin page to substitute the dispatch with an updated version under the present link, or the owner must go in and edit it.

Procrasta nation

Xakememorinatri wrote:I find it reprehensible that you would even think about running for Caesar after what you and Saturnalia put this region through. The fact that you act like everything should be hunky dory and you deserve a second seat of power is, quite frankly, disgusting.

I will be running against you to make sure you do NOT get a second seat of power because regardless of your "influence", you aren't to be trusted.

Thanks for not holding any hard feelings towards us, what a blessing. The feeling is far from mutual.

I’m gonna have to ask you to drop the attitude. All These united socialists did was an honest mistake. They are not at all responsible for the actions of Saturna1ia. Running against These united socialists based on hate will only make you an abuser of power. You do not want the position so you can make Oatland A better place, but rather to spite These united socialists.

Don’t act like a child and grow up. Let’s get past the past because that’s what it is, the past. These united socialists actually have a plan to help make Oatland a better place and we should all accept that graciously. Anyone who votes for Xakememorinatri on the basis of hatred for These united socialists has officially lost my respect. Let’s have a fair and respectful election.

If Xakememorinatri actually comes up with a plan besides “boo hoo I don’t like him” then I will understand their reason for running. If we want a serious election then you should actually have a campaign based on what you want rather than smearing These united socialists.

That is all.
Procrasta nation

The Peoples Place of Living, Franche Comte, and Kappa lambda epsilon mu

Procrasta nation wrote:I’m gonna have to ask you to drop the attitude. All These united socialists did was an honest mistake. They are not at all responsible for the actions of Saturna1ia. Running against These united socialists based on hate will only make you an abuser of power. You do not want the position so you can make Oatland A better place, but rather to spite These united socialists.

Don’t act like a child and grow up. Let’s get past the past because that’s what it is, the past. These united socialists actually have a plan to help make Oatland a better place and we should all accept that graciously. Anyone who votes for Xakememorinatri on the basis of hatred for These united socialists has officially lost my respect. Let’s have a fair and respectful election.

If Xakememorinatri actually comes up with a plan besides “boo hoo I don’t like him” then I will understand their reason for running. If we want a serious election then you should actually have a campaign based on what you want rather than smearing These united socialists.

That is all.
Procrasta nation

I don't think anyone hates TUS, but Xakememorinatri seems primarily concerned with the fact that being elected would afford TUS two positions of power, which is an understandable concern. If this is not a sufficient concern for people, they merely need not vote for him. There are other options so far.

I'll point out that neither the Caesar? or the WA delegate have powers that they could abuse to affect their roll in the other. The process fro seleveting a delegate is totally different(and immutable) from the process for selecting the Ceasar. The biggest concern is that responsibilities from one might affect their ability to fulfill the duties of the other

Lennia wrote:I would just like to clarify that the only one who can physically edit the constitution and related links above would be the owner of the dispatch the links go to. It's a technical limitation of the game or at least the current system we use. In order for it to be changed someone with proper authority would need to use the admin page to substitute the dispatch with an updated version under the present link, or the owner must go in and edit it.

whoops >.> updating now

Lennia, Broken Edge, and Kappa lambda epsilon mu

alight both my copies are updated now.

Aclion wrote:alight both my copies are updated now.

I made copies for myself as well.

Hello all,

We as a nation and a senator would like to announce our endorsement of @These United Socialists for the office of Caesar. As a member of our region they have performed their duties as our WA Delegate very competently, and I believe that they will apply the same diligence to the office of Caesar. We would also like to point out that they are committed to the Democratic principles of our region, and as our WA delegate has sought the opinions of various other nations within our region on the legislation of the WA.

Thank you all and I hope all of our fellow nations have a good day.

Procrasta nation

The democratic republic of the antarctic

Xakememorinatri wrote:I find it reprehensible that you would even think about running for Caesar after what you and Saturnalia put this region through. The fact that you act like everything should be hunky dory and you deserve a second seat of power is, quite frankly, disgusting.

I will be running against you to make sure you do NOT get a second seat of power because regardless of your "influence", you aren't to be trusted.

Thanks for not holding any hard feelings towards us, what a blessing. The feeling is far from mutual.

What happened?

The democratic republic of the antarctic wrote:What happened?

They are referring to the past controversy over the Censor vote...

Lennia, Broken Edge, and The democratic republic of the antarctic

As far as I can see, and feel free to correct me, Xakememorinatri is, as Franche Comte is saying, referring to what all happened with Saturna1ia. I believe they also do not think that it is a good idea for TUS to hold two positions in the regional government, which kinda makes sense as many people were skeptical of them getting Censor and WA Delegate.

I would like to say though, I am not supporting one or the other as of right now. Good luck to all!

Broken Edge wrote:As far as I can see, and feel free to correct me, Xakememorinatri is, as Franche Comte is saying, referring to what all happened with Saturna1ia. I believe they also do not think that it is a good idea for TUS to hold two positions in the regional government, which kinda makes sense as many people were skeptical of them getting Censor and WA Delegate.

I would like to say though, I am not supporting one or the other as of right now. Good luck to all!

Things are made so much more complicated by the fact that the delegate is based on endorsements rather than appointment.

I think it would be a fair compromise and settle many concerns if TUS pledged to step down as delegate if elected Caesar. This would require a number of people to retract their endorsements though.

Xakememorinatri

Lennia wrote:Things are made so much more complicated by the fact that the delegate is based on endorsements rather than appointment.

I think it would be a fair compromise and settle many concerns if TUS pledged to step down as delegate if elected Caesar. This would require a number of people to retract their endorsements though.

I am willing to forgive and retract my shock and appall if TUS will pledge to step down as delegate if elected as Caesar. I'd also like to see it in the constitution that no one nation can hold more than one seat of power.

Broken Edge and Great sothos

Xakememorinatri wrote:I am willing to forgive and retract my shock and appall if TUS will pledge to step down as delegate if elected as Caesar. I'd also like to see it in the constitution that no one nation can hold more than one seat of power.

A question to be answered after the election

Xakememorinatri wrote:I am willing to forgive and retract my shock and appall if TUS will pledge to step down as delegate if elected as Caesar. I'd also like to see it in the constitution that no one nation can hold more than one seat of power.

I don't have anything against These united socialists but I personally feel the government would be better off with one seat of power per nation.

I would just like to say, although again, I do not know how many of you actually care, but Saturna1ia has officially ceased to exist as of about 6 hours ago. I just left them in my dossier, and just realized that.

I'm designing my 2020 Oatland Regional Games logo at the moment. What's the official Regional Games logo? (Olympic rings equivalent)

Broken Edge, The democratic republic of the antarctic, and Octonovem

Broken Edge wrote:I would just like to say, although again, I do not know how many of you actually care, but Saturna1ia has officially ceased to exist as of about 6 hours ago. I just left them in my dossier, and just realized that.

Shame his legacy was tainted by that incident.

Mondlicht states

I, Mondlicht states, am announcing my bid into the election for Caesar.

I assume that everybody already is well aware of the problems that were spotted during the incident concerning the last Caesar Elect, and are extremely concerned about the abuse of power. Our fair Augustus, Lennia, had to deal with that problem since the Augustus has to decide for problems placed within the grey areas of the law.

And that is where I would like to point to the cause of our problems. There are a lot of grey areas in the law, because there are no laws.
Apart from the Oatland Constitution and amendments within it, there are zero legislation passed. Especially no laws about specifics in elections, such as withdrawing, buying votes, ties, term limits, etc. And as I have gathered, it was most likely because no one had a good reason to do so. But now we have. We don't want people to abuse their authority so they would get what they wanted.

As your Caesar, I want to give you senators a chance to place your concerns. I want to give senators the power to make your representatives actually represent your ideals, not representatives forcing their way, as you have witnessed from the last Caesar Elect.

Some might think that this is just a subversive attack on the Augustus to weaken their power. I disagree. The Augustus plays an important role in our Government by eliminating indecisiveness and executing laws, and any of my promises or any action from senators like you would not survive without their power. But us civil servants in the Civil Government are also important, acting as the voice of Oatland and making laws for officials to execute.

These are probably big promises, and I cannot hope to deliver them myself.

Without your help.

All of you have concerns. You cannot just hope that your elected officials or the Augustus would be able to represent you. YOU have the power to address your concern. YOU have the power and the responsibility to solve these problems.

And I, as the rest of our humble government, shall help you in your endeavor. It is high time we actually took things into our hands.

The fate of our government rests on our shoulders. Long Live Oatland!

The Peoples Place of Living, Aclion, Hospe, Broken Edge, and 2 othersKappa lambda epsilon mu, and Great sothos

Our nation would like to announce that it will be supporting the Mondlicht states in their quest for Caesarship. They are 13th in the region for most influential, so they seemingly know their way around. Not only that, but they are not surrounded by controversy like the other two candidates in the race. My nation has nothing against Xakememorinatri, or These united socialists, but I feel like the controversy would make it much harder for them to cooperate with others effectively, or even to fulfill their responsibilities as Caesar very well.

Those pale in comparison to the support that they have received from Broken Edge and its citizens for running on a democratic platform. I admire that they have pointed out that change is not effectively derived from one person, but instead from the whole of the region, and more specifically the representatives that are present in the Senate. I would like to point out that one of the tags for the region of Oatland is Democratic, and my nation and its citizens believe that the Mondlicht states would very much so help with maintaining the truth of that tag, and furthering the democratic nature of our beloved Oatland.

Finally, I would like to say that I am my own person, and these are just my opinions. Please do not take any grievances from this post out on Mondlicht states, as they are not the one saying this message.

Long Live Oatland!
Quod Superius Continue!

Mondlicht states

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