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Romaria wrote:

What about the 200 million and more that The Soviet Union, Maoist China, North Korea and Vietnam killed in the space of at least 101 years. Can you justify communism with the slaughter of millions of innocent people? You will counter this with Hitler's holocaust but Hitler only used the holocaust as a "Final Solution" and you will find only 6 million people died during that dark chapter of human history with many more in that darker chapter of human history that you proudly call the only way. Communism.

You do realize that you're comparing the death count of like 5 countries over around 7 for the most part compared to a third of the world's population on and off for around 70 years, not exactly a fair comparison, because even if fascism were a lot worse it would still have a lower death count

Even if socialism killed as many people as people think it did, that's still nowhere near the amount of lives it saved, just look at the two most famous examples, China and The Soviet Union, socialism took two incredibly backwards countries that were wracked with constant famine into global superpowers in a matter of decades, the life expectancy doubled under Mao. Also just look at everything that Cuba does to save lives with its doctors all over the world, they were the first country to eliminate mother to child HIV, and they have a higher life expectancy than the US, can you imagine that, a small third world country blockaded by the global hegemon of the US still has it better off than the wealthiest country on the planet, just imagine what America could accomplish if it actually used its economy to for the end of improving people's lives like Cuba does instead of putting profits above all

And again, even if communism were bad it's still a lot better than it's alternative, capitalism, this video does a really good job of comparing the death toll of capitalism with the death toll of socialism
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QnIsdVaCnUE

Tortalandia wrote:

The irony of raiding regions and shutting down embassies to promote "Anti-fascism". Yeah, that makes sense. (and the israeli embassy these "fascists" have).

Israel is a etho-state in every sense of the word, and their incredibly racist, they wouldn't grant Ethiopian Jews entrance, you should really look into what the founders of Zionism had to say about black people, pretty close to what the fascists say

Was America fascist when it was shutting down Nazi Germany?

Greetings from the General Secretary of the People's Party of the anti-fascist People's Republic of Isinchechem, here to join forces, give aid to and converse with my fellow antifascist countries in this faction to forever crush the fascists and libertarians in the world. No Pasaran!

Will do, comrade, I just started out 20 minutes ago so bear with me

Kim triumphant wrote:

You do realize that you're comparing the death count of like 5 countries over around 7 for the most part compared to a third of the world's population on and off for around 70 years, not exactly a fair comparison, because even if fascism were a lot worse it would still have a lower death count

Even if socialism killed as many people as people think it did, that's still nowhere near the amount of lives it saved, just look at the two most famous examples, China and The Soviet Union, socialism took two incredibly backwards countries that were wracked with constant famine into global superpowers in a matter of decades, the life expectancy doubled under Mao. Also just look at everything that Cuba does to save lives with its doctors all over the world, they were the first country to eliminate mother to child HIV, and they have a higher life expectancy than the US, can you imagine that, a small third world country blockaded by the global hegemon of the US still has it better off than the wealthiest country on the planet, just imagine what America could accomplish if it actually used its economy to for the end of improving people's lives like Cuba does instead of putting profits above all

And again, even if communism were bad it's still a lot better than it's alternative, capitalism, this video does a really good job of comparing the death toll of capitalism with the death toll of socialism
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QnIsdVaCnUE

Since your "Liberals" you will let me reply to this.

Dictatorships generally do improve nations thats true, remember Hitler did the same things to a ruined Germany. So I guess we can both agree that dictators are a good thing.
We also have to remember that those nations which pulled themselves out of poverty did so at a time when the whole world was improving dramatically, and capitalist countries experienced the same trends: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miracle_of_Chile

As for oppressive Cuba, just because of a cynical PR stunt in an attempt to gain trade partners doesn't mean the actual country is decent; Almost every single Cuban lives well below the poverty line. As for the life expectancy, there are many contradicting sources on the topic. For example Wiki puts the US ahead: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuba#Health
All the nations with the highest life expectancy are capitalist or at least moderately capitalist, for example Switzerland.

Communism has directly executed 90 Million people and led to the deaths of over 200 Million at a conservative estimate while Fascism killed less than 11 Million. I strongly suggest you cease your hypocrisy and cut all ties with Communist regions.