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Suternia wrote:Seems like I'll have to explain everything to all of you.

What happened here was that I was actually planning to quit regional politics after Unity had gotten so big under my leadership, as I felt bored of leading the party for so long. I got this invite from Iheero and the reason as to why I accepted it was because it was really the only thing which I could see as keeping me interested in regional politics. I am really starting to get tired of this, the difference between what I am doing is that I worked hard for my party and the region to even have a chance at running for PM under the activists, while the Lib Dems demanded the co-chancellorship even though they only lost on that election, but that is unrelated and I have no problems with the Lib Dems nowadays. Really what would anyone here do in the same position I was? I get offered an opportunity which is basically the only thing which would keep me interested in regional politics after working so hard and only doing boring jobs for the good of the region, and I should reject it? I am not even putting my interests above those of all other party members, I just shared that telegram I wired to Iheero explaining how we could make the members happy by using the activist imperial division (which is similarly themed to Unity).

Marinne, Mukolayiv you two only have your seats because of my efforts, and then you treat me as the evil man who is trying to destroy the party out of personal interest. First of all I know very well you only joined the party because you knew it would be an easy seat muko, yet knowing this I still resigned from the Senate to allow for more members to get involved, I gave up the easy job as Senator to work as Deputy IM, an extremelly boring and time consuming job. Marinne you wouldn't have gotten a seat if it weren't for me, 1st of all because of the informal migration of Pirate Party members into Unity which was organised by me, and 2nd because you actually originally lost to Allishive by one vote on the primaries, but I voted on the last minute to keep you two tied, because I wanted to see you on the Senate.

Proof here:
https://i.imgur.com/FGnQaJx.png
https://i.imgur.com/OAbW7ck.png

The truth is that you all wouldn't be here if it weren't for me, yet I am being treated like the evil guy by all of this members who are only here because of my contributions to this party. Still can't accept facts? Just look at this graph which I made as my time as General Secretary passed:

https://i.imgur.com/vri5tDz.png

Marinne You know how many members we had when Sainoland joined? We already had 17 members, and the spike in membership right after that which put us at 24 wasn't caused by her, it was caused by the informal migration of Pirate members into Unity, which was planned and agreed on by me and Bietz, funny enough Saino was anti Pirate Party, so if she was the General Secretary you can be sure that we wouldn't have gained more members.

I wasnt against it being merged into unity. Sit back down suternia you're coming up with cr*p now. Should I give you the list of members I've recruited? But I won't, because I'm not an egotistical betrayer. Let's just say, I respect your time as unity sec but you do not have the right to decide our future for us, you weren't even a party member at the time. By accepting iheeros offer you prove all you crave is power.

Then your stupid poaching allegations, I was recruiting, not "poaching," and recruting for a party is by no means illegal. The reason you're so against is because you want unity to be small again like you've expressed in the past. In the face of being questioned about your actions you attempt to shift the blame towards everyone else including 3SE, at least he just left NAT instead of trying to merge it into Cons.
And more about the poaching, I didn't target members of other parties, hevern himself tried to recruit me when I already joined unity and I bet you won't call him out on that, cause it won't be of any gain to you.
http://i68.tinypic.com/jtmpmd.png

The evile empire and Spiceamia

Suternia wrote:Can't you read properly? It was fair indeed, I hadn't voted yet and realised Allishive had one more vote then you, so I voted for you to cause a runoff, because I wanted to see you in the Senate. You don't like the fact that I voted? But aren't you guys calling for a referendum on the merge? Pure hipocrisy.

The merge should have a vote by the 2 party's members, that is not hypocrisy in any way with Me not wanting you to vote in a primary because you are a leader.

Sainoland

You're being treated as the "evil guy" not because of what you've accomplished for the party which you like to brag about, but the way you're throwing it down the toilet so you can be made PM candidate.

The evile empire and Marinne

I don't understand why God created humans, he should have stopped after doggos.

The evile empire, Marinne, Ravennog, Tyranogorgon, and 1 otherVaccine

Unity merging with ACT... I THINK NOT!

The evile empire, Calponia, United soviet states of russian empire, Marinne, and 4 othersRavennog, Hulldom, Sainoland, and Vaccine

The evile empire

The Traditional States wrote:Unity merging with ACT... I THINK NOT!

Why would (hopefully not will) we merge with Unity? Why?

Marinne, Sainoland, and Vaccine

Good old RMB debates I see

The evile empire and Calponia

The evile empire

Cesorion wrote:Good old RMB debates I see

We're trying to get to the 5,000th page as soon as possible.

Risastorstein, Calponia, Tyranogorgon, and Spiceamia

I mean merges can happen without any support at all right? (Me saying not a single member of Unity supports this)

The evile empire

If Unity merges with the Activists, I will not hesitate to leave the Activists and my Senate seat behind me. I will not tolerate this disgustingly power-grabbing merge. Unity is doing wonderfully, and I am astonished of how far they have come. And now we want to take away their accomplishments and throw them down the drain?

The evile empire, Cesorion, and Spiceamia

Ravennog wrote:If Unity merges with the Activists, I will not hesitate to leave the Activists and my Senate seat behind me. I will not tolerate this disgustingly power-grabbing merge. Unity is doing wonderfully, and I am astonished of how far they have come. And now we want to take away their accomplishments and throw them down the drain?

Same. Where we gonna go

The evile empire and Ravennog

The evile empire

Ravennog wrote:If Unity merges with the Activists, I will not hesitate to leave the Activists and my Senate seat behind me. I will not tolerate this disgustingly power-grabbing merge. Unity is doing wonderfully, and I am astonished of how far they have come. And now we want to take away their accomplishments and throw them down the drain?

Who's to say that any of the Unity members would join the Activists? For all we know, it might just result in the party dissolving, then activists leaving their own party, leaving both sides without what they want.

Marinne and Ravennog

Spiceamia wrote:Same. Where we gonna go

I'm either gonna form a non-aligned movement or join the Lib-Dems

The evile empire, Tyranogorgon, Spiceamia, and Sainoland

The evile empire wrote:Who's to say that any of the Unity members would join the Activists? For all we know, it might just result in the party dissolving, then activists leaving their own party, leaving both sides without what they want.

It would result in Unity becoming a third party and loosing any say they have in regional politics

The evile empire

The evile empire

So Riost has agreed to this, or is this just an offer?

The evile empire wrote:So Riost has agreed to this, or is this just an offer?

Iheero is all that stand between this going through or failing

The evile empire and Sainoland

23rd german panzer division

I disagree with this all of them!!!!!!!!

The 23rd German Panzer Divison shall invade this region and those who oppose us shall be sent to the political party which has the most not people good!!!!

We will form a new political party called "Panzer Union of the Atlantic", die die die!!!

The evile empire and Tyranogorgon

Suternia wrote:Seems like I'll have to explain everything to all of you.

What happened here was that I was actually planning to quit regional politics after Unity had gotten so big under my leadership, as I felt bored of leading the party for so long. I got this invite from Iheero and the reason as to why I accepted it was because it was really the only thing which I could see as keeping me interested in regional politics. I am really starting to get tired of this, the difference between what I am doing is that I worked hard for my party and the region to even have a chance at running for PM under the activists, while the Lib Dems demanded the co-chancellorship even though they only lost on that election, but that is unrelated and I have no problems with the Lib Dems nowadays. Really what would anyone here do in the same position I was? I get offered an opportunity which is basically the only thing which would keep me interested in regional politics after working so hard and only doing boring jobs for the good of the region, and I should reject it? I am not even putting my interests above those of all other party members, I just shared that telegram I wired to Iheero explaining how we could make the members happy by using the activist imperial division (which is similarly themed to Unity).

Marinne, Mukolayiv you two only have your seats because of my efforts, and then you treat me as the evil man who is trying to destroy the party out of personal interest. First of all I know very well you only joined the party because you knew it would be an easy seat muko, yet knowing this I still resigned from the Senate to allow for more members to get involved, I gave up the easy job as Senator to work as Deputy IM, an extremelly boring and time consuming job. Marinne you wouldn't have gotten a seat if it weren't for me, 1st of all because of the informal migration of Pirate Party members into Unity which was organised by me, and 2nd because you actually originally lost to Allishive by one vote on the primaries, but I voted on the last minute to keep you two tied, because I wanted to see you on the Senate.

Proof here:
https://i.imgur.com/FGnQaJx.png
https://i.imgur.com/OAbW7ck.png

The truth is that you all wouldn't be here if it weren't for me, yet I am being treated like the evil guy by all of this members who are only here because of my contributions to this party. Still can't accept facts? Just look at this graph which I made as my time as General Secretary passed:

https://i.imgur.com/vri5tDz.png

Marinne You know how many members we had when Sainoland joined? We already had 17 members, and the spike in membership right after that which put us at 24 wasn't caused by her, it was caused by the informal migration of Pirate members into Unity, which was planned and agreed on by me and Bietz, funny enough Saino was anti Pirate Party, so if she was the General Secretary you can be sure that we wouldn't have gained more members.

If Unity was so unique as you always claimed, why are you all of a sudden joining the Activists? Who have a different ideology and platform? That only makes it more convincing that you’re doing this out of ambition and personal interest. Which makes me lose respect for you.

Wentsworth, The evile empire, Josephtan, Marinne, and 3 othersRavennog, Spiceamia, and Sainoland

Ravennog wrote:I'm either gonna form a non-aligned movement or join the Lib-Dems

Alliance ‘19 wya?

The evile empire, Ravennog, and Spiceamia

The evile empire

23rd german panzer division wrote:I disagree with this all of them!!!!!!!!

The 23rd German Panzer Divison shall invade this region and those who oppose us shall be sent to the political party which has the most not people good!!!!

We will form a new political party called "Panzer Union of the Atlantic", die die die!!!

raises eyebrows
"the political party which has the most not people good"

Tyranogorgon, Spiceamia, and Sainoland

23rd german panzer division wrote:I disagree with this all of them!!!!!!!!

The 23rd German Panzer Divison shall invade this region and those who oppose us shall be sent to the political party which has the most not people good!!!!

We will form a new political party called "Panzer Union of the Atlantic", die die die!!!

Lalop is that you

Risastorstein, The evile empire, Marinne, and Sainoland

The 3rd swedish empire

Let me give y’all a my perspective on the merge.

First of its stupid. Especially when Unity has been doing so good why throw it all away. It’s also power hungry not just from both Suternia and Iheero but also from the Activist Party leadership.

Before a merge would happen a vote in both parties should be held to democratically determine it.

Also Suternia my situation to when I left National to join the cons is entirely different. I left willingly and didn’t merge the parties in some power move. I left because I wasn’t satisfied with the leadership of GR. You were tired of politics in the NWA and then you accepted just because you think they will endorse you as PM. So don’t go around bragging about being so good because of what you did for Unity. You still have a lot to work on in how you interact and chat with people over the internet

The evile empire, Marinne, Ravennog, Spiceamia, and 1 otherSainoland

Ormantum wrote:If Unity was so unique as you always claimed, why are you all of a sudden joining the Activists? Who have a different ideology and platform? That only makes it more convincing that you’re doing this out of ambition and personal interest. Which makes me lose respect for you.

It's clearly only that, and the evidence is iheeros telegram to suternia, suternia accepted what iheero said, and he specified he wants to merge unity into acts only to give suternia the PM position.

The evile empire and Spiceamia

The 3rd swedish empire

Ormantum wrote:If Unity was so unique as you always claimed, why are you all of a sudden joining the Activists? Who have a different ideology and platform? That only makes it more convincing that you’re doing this out of ambition and personal interest. Which makes me lose respect for you.

I lost respect for him a long time ago, for quite understandable reasons but we don’t have to get into that

The evile empire, Marinne, and Sainoland

23rd german panzer division

I am back and this time with more panzers!

Risastorstein, The evile empire, and Tyranogorgon

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