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So I'm working to create my religion factbook, Divine Providence.

So the premise is that the Chamberlain & Saratoga families, mainly Joshua Chamberlain from back in NCON 1.0 and Saint Saratoga (name) from the Saratogan-Nedean-Moarfallian independence war, are god intervention into the matters of man to create an Israel-like state that became St. Saratoga the nation.

Divine Providence is using the pre-reformation Catholic Church as the model.

What I need help from y'all is:
A) how to create slick looking factbook for it
1) Maybe wikipedia style?
B) Help with creating the structure and holy book
C) Holy Places; should the new RP have Divine Providence holy sites? Rogerbei have a Vatican? NCON 1.0 map have the holy sites that no longer exist? That sorta thing.

St Saratoga wrote:So I'm working to create my religion factbook, Divine Providence.

So the premise is that the Chamberlain & Saratoga families, mainly Joshua Chamberlain from back in NCON 1.0 and Saint Saratoga (name) from the Saratogan-Nedean-Moarfallian independence war, are god intervention into the matters of man to create an Israel-like state that became St. Saratoga the nation.

Divine Providence is using the pre-reformation Catholic Church as the model.

What I need help from y'all is:
A) how to create slick looking factbook for it
1) Maybe wikipedia style?
B) Help with creating the structure and holy book
C) Holy Places; should the new RP have Divine Providence holy sites? Rogerbei have a Vatican? NCON 1.0 map have the holy sites that no longer exist? That sorta thing.

So, for your people, the land of Saratoga represents a type of “promised land,” right?

This is a central theme of both Judaism and Mormonism. In both religions, a type of covenant is signed with a god whereby they are granted a promised land where they can live in peace in exchange for worshipping that god. This covenant and/or the promise (along with a utopian description of the land) is usually a major feature/theme of any religious text.

A promised land is more than likely something an (historically) oppressed people would pine for. This historic oppression would also be a major theme/feature of the text. As would the liberation from this oppression, the journey to the promised land (which is often difficult and dangerous, but full of miracles from the god that assist the people along the way), and then a history of the first days (or years or generations) in the promised land.

The religious text can be written by one “prophet” or be a collection (curated over time by a church authority) of smaller texts by several or many prophets. There can be a single definitive text, or a core text with many derivative texts authored over the years that have since been adopted as important secondary texts. (Often times these are metaphysical thesis expanding the core text to cover things like day-to-day practices and religious dietary or marriage laws.) Authorship can either be known or unknown. (Known more often if by one prophet, unknown more often if by many prophets.)

Of course, it should also contain any core moral tenets. And often reinforces these with stories of people that either succeeded by following the tenets, or failed because they didn’t follow them.

Holy places are likely (for a people that journey from a place where they were oppressed to a promised land) to be found along the path of the journey, and of course in the promised land itself. One major site being the very first place in the promised land the people touched. Another being the location where the first leader (the one leading your people when they reach the promised land) dies and/or is/was buried (or ascended to Heaven). As well as any places any prophets died and/or are/were buried.

A “Vatican” would be needed if the head of your church needs some sovereign territory in order to offer a bit of political distance between the church and the state (govt) of Saratoga. If there are lots of followers outside Saratoga, this might be a good idea to protect those followers from being accused of being Saratogan agents by virtue of their faith alone. If a vast, vast majority live in Saratoga, then they actually may get more protection from a union of church and state. Meaning no separate “Vatican,” BUT you can still give your religious leader a private campus/estate and even a whole city devoted to the church with lots of seminaries and other religious institutions like libraries, etc. (Basically a religious capital which can be different than your national capital.)

I wanna wish a lovely happy birthday to our dear St Saratoga!!

Happy Birthday to you! Happy Birthday to you! Happy Birthday, Dear St Saratoga! Happy Birthday to you!

I just got a notice saying I was in the top 10% of WA endorsements in the world. I'm not in the WA nor do I have any endorsements. Anyone else get this?

Nedea wrote:I just got a notice saying I was in the top 10% of WA endorsements in the world. I'm not in the WA nor do I have any endorsements. Anyone else get this?

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Nedea wrote:I wanna wish a lovely happy birthday to our dear St Saratoga!!

Little late but Happy birthday.

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Any hot takes on the Hong Kong situation? It's surprising to see these demonstrations are still going on, considering how most things these days seem to be a flash in the pan.

While I dont condone unprovoked violence, it does bring a smile to my face to see that torch of liberty our founding fathers ignited so long ago still burns. I support the demands of the Hong Kong people but I'm worried this will erupt into something far worse. China can't help but know there are millions, if not billions of eyes on them and what HK and China does in the next months will certainly set the stage for what future events will happen.

If HK's demands are met it may inspire even more liberty movements but it will also make China look bad (it can't handle its sovereign turf). Though if China cracks down it will look equally bad. I think this is a lose lose for China, and an angry China does not equal a safer world.

Just my take though.

I gotta say I’m quite surprised the Communists in Beijing have held out as long as they have, thus allowing the world more time to see and absorb what’s going there. It’s also interesting that the mainland’s media was ignoring the protests at first, then suddenly started covering the “separatist” and “foreign-backed rioting” in Hong Kong. I guess the censorship in mainland China wasn’t working too well and they bit-the-bullet and went from ignore to threaten.

This is probably the final test of “One Country, Two Systems”. The Communists have been pushing that envelop for a long time now and it looks like it’s about to snap. If they take things directly into their own hands and suppress the protest violently, then “One Country, Two Systems” is dead to everyone. THAT is what they really fear. It’s the “promise” Beijing is now offering Taiwan for unification. If that promise proves to be horrifically and violently false, then the only option left for the Communists is to invade Taiwan to force unification under “One Country, One System”. If that happens, the world not only loses a vibrant democracy, China gains direct military access to the Western Pacific from which to threaten us and all our allies on that side of the planet.

The world needs to take a firm stand. If the Communist violently suppress the protests, and finally kill “One Country, Two Systems”, then the world should immediately respond by delisting Hong Kong as a separate economic entity and stripping it of any special privileges in trade, followed up by real sanctions to begin decoupling the world’s economy from China’s.

And as a special bonus, we should recognize, establish formal diplomatic relations, sign a FTA, and establish a defense alliance with Taiwan.

Just my take though. :)

Why would we want to forget about Hong Kong being a seperate entity? Why would we sanction them? If anything we should support Hong Kong liberty and Taiwanese liberty.

Nedea wrote:Why would we want to forget about Hong Kong being a seperate entity? Why would we sanction them? If anything we should support Hong Kong liberty and Taiwanese liberty.

Well, I advocate sanctioning them only if they prove Hong Kong isn’t in fact a separate entity by crossing into the territory and forcibly suppressing the protests. That would make Hong Kong just another Chinese city by default. At that point it should be treated like just another Chinese city without special status. We should threaten crippling sanctions, wait and see, and then act if they act. Best and only thing that could be done.

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