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here it is
https://archiveofourown.org/works/16049810

Another artist to discover: Favourite Tolkien character portrait by Lorenzo Colangeli
page=poll/p=176775

FrodoBaggins wrote:here it is
https://archiveofourown.org/works/16049810

These are absolutely hilariously amazing, but also surprisingly well written!

Lady Galadriel wrote:Another artist to discover: Favourite Tolkien character portrait by Lorenzo Colangeli
page=poll/p=176775

That was so hard to choose, they're all so wonderful!

Emyn Arnen wrote:These are absolutely hilariously amazing, but also surprisingly well written!

That was so hard to choose, they're all so wonderful!

i like how bombadil is yoda lol, i imagine the witch king being Drogo Baggins to and saying "Frodo, i am your father" at Weathertop

These fanfics gave me a lot of ideas for new RPs...

Tatarica, March of Maedhros, i just got this idea. Why not create a regional discord? We would have more communications and it would be more fun

FrodoBaggins wrote:here it is
https://archiveofourown.org/works/16049810

sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh

Lady Galadriel wrote:Another artist to discover: Favourite Tolkien character portrait by Lorenzo Colangeli
page=poll/p=176775

oh my illuvatar

FrodoBaggins wrote:i like how bombadil is yoda lol, i imagine the witch king being Drogo Baggins to and saying "Frodo, i am your father" at Weathertop

XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sHND96Sm2g

Lindon-Rivendell wrote:sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh
oh my illuvatar
XD

i now imagine the lightsaber fight between darth vader and luke but its frodo vs the witch king in front of saurons throne

RIP Dwarven mines

FrodoBaggins wrote:i now imagine the lightsaber fight between darth vader and luke but its frodo vs the witch king in front of saurons throne

lotr on crack be like

Lindon-Rivendell wrote:lotr on crack be like

Tom Bom i am, jolly tom i am, Tom Bombadillo i am

FrodoBaggins wrote:Tom Bom i am, jolly tom i am, Tom Bombadillo i am

he is.

"I should like to save the Shire, if I could - though there have been times when I thought the inhabitants too stupid and dull for words, and have felt that an earthquake or an invasion of dragons might be good for them. But I don't feel like that now. I feel that as long as the Shire lies behind, safe and comfortable, I shall find wandering more bearable: I shall know that somewhere there is a firm foothold, even if my feet cannot stand there again."
~ J.R.R Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

These days, I often feel like many of us could do with an invasion of dragons, and it helps to remember the Shire...

Dwarf wrote:"I should like to save the Shire, if I could - though there have been times when I thought the inhabitants too stupid and dull for words, and have felt that an earthquake or an invasion of dragons might be good for them. But I don't feel like that now. I feel that as long as the Shire lies behind, safe and comfortable, I shall find wandering more bearable: I shall know that somewhere there is a firm foothold, even if my feet cannot stand there again."
~ J.R.R Tolkien, The Fellowship of the Ring

These days, I often feel like many of us could do with an invasion of dragons, and it helps to remember the Shire...

true lol

What Frodo actually deserved was peacefully living in the Shire for the rest of his life, what do the undying lands change? nearly nothing except he has less pain and is one of two mortals among immortals. In my opinion Frodo should've just settled down in the Shire and live in bag End like a normal hobbit(eating 6 meals a day and having 10 children and stuff like that), i literally cried at the end of LoTR what the hell this is the first time i cried at the end of a book. The most dissapointing thing was that no one(of the hobbits) really cared about him, they only cared about merry and pippin and Sam
i could write an essay about this but im too lazy

FrodoBaggins wrote:What Frodo actually deserved was peacefully living in the Shire for the rest of his life, what do the undying lands change? nearly nothing except he has less pain and is one of two mortals among immortals. In my opinion Frodo should've just settled down in the Shire and live in bag End like a normal hobbit(eating 6 meals a day and having 10 children and stuff like that), i literally cried at the end of LoTR what the hell this is the first time i cried at the end of a book. The most dissapointing thing was that no one(of the hobbits) really cared about him, they only cared about merry and pippin and Sam
i could write an essay about this but im too lazy

I agree, the ending of LoTR is one of the truly most heartbreaking conclusions to a book. After everything, the hero who has suffered so much, on such a long journey, comes home at last, having saved the free peoples of the world, only to find devastation and disappointment, and must simply leave once again, this time for good.

My understanding, from outside sources, is that Tolkien was channeling the feelings that he and other returning veterans felt when they got home from the First World War. After such a momentous journey, having suffered so much, in ways unimaginable to all of their families and communities back home that they were supposedly fighting to preserve the world for, so many of them returned to misunderstanding and disappointment and a world that had utterly changed in their absence, so that they felt estranged from it all and unable to reintegrate, many simply picking up and leaving once again.

The world is cruel, and people often even crueler...

Dwarf wrote:I agree, the ending of LoTR is one of the truly most heartbreaking conclusions to a book. After everything, the hero who has suffered so much, on such a long journey, comes home at last, having saved the free peoples of the world, only to find devastation and disappointment, and must simply leave once again, this time for good.

My understanding, from outside sources, is that Tolkien was channeling the feelings that he and other returning veterans felt when they got home from the First World War. After such a momentous journey, having suffered so much, in ways unimaginable to all of their families and communities back home that they were supposedly fighting to preserve the world for, so many of them returned to misunderstanding and disappointment and a world that had utterly changed in their absence, so that they felt estranged from it all and unable to reintegrate, many simply picking up and leaving once again.

The world is cruel, and people often even crueler...

that is why my favorite volume is the Fellowship of the Ring, theres just too much pain in the end of volume 2 and volume 3

Totally different question now, but you play or played DnD right cus im creating Frodo as a character there and idk what class he should be(warrior, sorcerer etc) i just cant find one that fits him

FrodoBaggins wrote:that is why my favorite volume is the Fellowship of the Ring, theres just too much pain in the end of volume 2 and volume 3

Totally different question now, but you play or played DnD right cus im creating Frodo as a character there and idk what class he should be(warrior, sorcerer etc) i just cant find one that fits him

rouge or bard,
maybe ranger?

Lindon-Rivendell wrote:rouge or bard,
maybe ranger?

hm ok ill try one of those

FrodoBaggins wrote:Totally different question now, but you play or played DnD right cus im creating Frodo as a character there and idk what class he should be(warrior, sorcerer etc) i just cant find one that fits him

Lindon-Rivendell wrote:rouge or bard,
maybe ranger?

Yeah, it's often difficult to satisfyingly graft a D&D class onto a fictional character, as the character is usually more well-rounded than what the class system there offers, which is something like a stock character type.

Lindon-Rivendell's three suggestions would all work. Bard may seem unlikely, but you can flavor the idea of a bard any way you like. So drinking songs that hobbits may sing together at the pub would work, as would simply reciting poetry. A downside could be that bards are also sort of magic users, which technically doesn't fit with Frodo's life. However, the world of D&D is simply more magical than Tolkien's Middle Earth, so in general you will probably have to make some allowances for that.

Rogue is a pretty good bet, as well. Certainly, I would choose that class for Bilbo, as he is explicitly called a thief and plays out the role through much of his story. Most of the hobbits could probably get the rogue class. And a rogue need not be "bad" or criminal in any way, that's simply how people often play them. But sneaky and quiet and agile also apply to something like a scout, if it helps to think of them that way. However, if the moral ambiguity often found in that class is somewhat troubling, Ranger could work, as well. And they are even more explicitly "scout" oriented.

You might want to go with Paladin, however. A kind of holy knight, giving their life over to a higher purpose, often on some sort of crusade or quest for a greater good. In fact, so wrapped up in the idea of "Goodness" is the figure that, early on in D&D, paladins were required to be of the lawful good moral alignment, though this has since changed. I know that "knight" isn't exactly the first thing that comes to mind when thinking of Frodo, but I think the idea behind the figure applies pretty well, that of someone dedicating their life to a greater cause absolutely. I believe that in modern D&D editions paladins have a deity they champion on their quest, but that could easily be flavored as Frodo's dedication to the very idea of "Good" or perhaps Eru or even to the Lady of the Woods, Galadriel, following the impactful meeting she has with Frodo early on.

Dwarf wrote:Yeah, it's often difficult to satisfyingly graft a D&D class onto a fictional character, as the character is usually more well-rounded than what the class system there offers, which is something like a stock character type.

Lindon-Rivendell's three suggestions would all work. Bard may seem unlikely, but you can flavor the idea of a bard any way you like. So drinking songs that hobbits may sing together at the pub would work, as would simply reciting poetry. A downside could be that bards are also sort of magic users, which technically doesn't fit with Frodo's life. However, the world of D&D is simply more magical than Tolkien's Middle Earth, so in general you will probably have to make some allowances for that.

Rogue is a pretty good bet, as well. Certainly, I would choose that class for Bilbo, as he is explicitly called a thief and plays out the role through much of his story. Most of the hobbits could probably get the rogue class. And a rogue need not be "bad" or criminal in any way, that's simply how people often play them. But sneaky and quiet and agile also apply to something like a scout, if it helps to think of them that way. However, if the moral ambiguity often found in that class is somewhat troubling, Ranger could work, as well. And they are even more explicitly "scout" oriented.

You might want to go with Paladin, however. A kind of holy knight, giving their life over to a higher purpose, often on some sort of crusade or quest for a greater good. In fact, so wrapped up in the idea of "Goodness" is the figure that, early on in D&D, paladins were required to be of the lawful good moral alignment, though this has since changed. I know that "knight" isn't exactly the first thing that comes to mind when thinking of Frodo, but I think the idea behind the figure applies pretty well, that of someone dedicating their life to a greater cause absolutely. I believe that in modern D&D editions paladins have a deity they champion on their quest, but that could easily be flavored as Frodo's dedication to the very idea of "Good" or perhaps Eru or even to the Lady of the Woods, Galadriel, following the impactful meeting she has with Frodo early on.

thank you :)

Dwarf wrote:Yeah, it's often difficult to satisfyingly graft a D&D class onto a fictional character, as the character is usually more well-rounded than what the class system there offers, which is something like a stock character type.

Lindon-Rivendell's three suggestions would all work. Bard may seem unlikely, but you can flavor the idea of a bard any way you like. So drinking songs that hobbits may sing together at the pub would work, as would simply reciting poetry. A downside could be that bards are also sort of magic users, which technically doesn't fit with Frodo's life. However, the world of D&D is simply more magical than Tolkien's Middle Earth, so in general you will probably have to make some allowances for that.

Rogue is a pretty good bet, as well. Certainly, I would choose that class for Bilbo, as he is explicitly called a thief and plays out the role through much of his story. Most of the hobbits could probably get the rogue class. And a rogue need not be "bad" or criminal in any way, that's simply how people often play them. But sneaky and quiet and agile also apply to something like a scout, if it helps to think of them that way. However, if the moral ambiguity often found in that class is somewhat troubling, Ranger could work, as well. And they are even more explicitly "scout" oriented.

You might want to go with Paladin, however. A kind of holy knight, giving their life over to a higher purpose, often on some sort of crusade or quest for a greater good. In fact, so wrapped up in the idea of "Goodness" is the figure that, early on in D&D, paladins were required to be of the lawful good moral alignment, though this has since changed. I know that "knight" isn't exactly the first thing that comes to mind when thinking of Frodo, but I think the idea behind the figure applies pretty well, that of someone dedicating their life to a greater cause absolutely. I believe that in modern D&D editions paladins have a deity they champion on their quest, but that could easily be flavored as Frodo's dedication to the very idea of "Good" or perhaps Eru or even to the Lady of the Woods, Galadriel, following the impactful meeting she has with Frodo early on.

I've only ever seen Frodo played as a rogue before, I never would have thought of a Paladin or Knight class, but the more I think about it the more it makes sense. Definitely a suggestion I'm going to keep in the back pocket!

FrodoBaggins wrote:here it is
https://archiveofourown.org/works/16049810

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4BDyHXUrsg
hmm perhaps a lotr version?

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