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Indusian empire

Vaballathus wrote:I think there’s merit to his economic policies, but I haven’t seen him be a substantive candidate on much else. And I really can’t imagine a universe where any republican would vote for him, in part because he’s asian.

Well he does focus on many of the issues that got Trump re-elected. And I don't think you realize that a vast majority of Asians (at least from my experience) are Republicans with lighter stances on (legal) immigration.

Vaballathus wrote:I think part of the key to making sure Trump isn’t reelected is swaying the people who voted for him in 2016. And that’s a lot of old white southern conservatives. I live with a lot of those people and of suspect they’d have a few issues with him. Nobody would outright say it but some of them won’t like him because he’s asian, plus he’s relatively young, entirely inexperienced, pretty shallow policy wise, and kinda robotic. Save for the asian part, I share those concerns with him.

I suspect it’s hard to get a grasp of without being here, but the past twelve years have been tough for America. Obama and Trump have been deeply divisive presidents, and there’s a lot of independent unrest. Socially I think America is sort of broken. There’s not a sense of unity, no more common ground one which all Americans can come together. Hell even the 4th of fùcking July is getting turned into a political issue. Right now the last thing America needs is radical change. Yang, and a lot of the other democrat candidates want that. We can’t handle another decisively partisan president. Somebody has to put the social pieces back together and turn America back into America. We need somebody who’s knows what their doing, has the experiences necessary to turn plans into action, who can act bipartisanly, and who can unify the people of this country. And the only person who fits that description is Joe Biden.

lolololol Biden's Presidency will be remembered as the "who's that guy again" Presidency. He plans to do basically nothing and return to the good-old-days (even Republicans don't use that as their platform anymore). America needs change as much as it hates to admit it. We live in a world where having a $750 billion dollar military means very little in the grand scheme (no offense). Today, wars and diplomacy are conducted via weltpolitik. France and China (with some US interference) are not trying to colonize Africa, they are trying to buy it. France uses the CFA franc as a financial tool while China plans to build a debt-trap for developing nations. What is the US doing, I might ask? Warmongering with Iran while waging a war not against China, but against economics itself (as history has shown time and time again, the economy always wins). Biden wants to play the "same-old-same-old President" but that's not what the country needs. We live in an ever-changing world and the American people demand, as well as need change. To most, he's just a seasoned old politician who has been fed by lobbyists and has a high time sauteing himself in the ivory tower of Washington. Though I don't necessarily agree with that, that is the standpoint of Republicans and Democrats alike.

This is not to mention "Biden being Biden" and all that stuff.

Thrihanti wrote:Sidenote, America is way to big and to much of a night-watchman state to implement Yang's reforms. It would be more beneficial for America to wait for a few European countries to start experiencing and implementing for instance the base income idea. Meanwhile Yang should focus slow, step by step, reforms.

P.S. the only thing I know about Yang is what is written on his wikipedia page.

As much I don't like to hate on Wikipedia, it kinda is bad when it comes to politics. In India, some person changed a politician's Wikipedia page to say that he was "the most corrupt politician" right before an election.

Thrihanti

Indusian empire wrote:Well he does focus on many of the issues that got Trump re-elected. And I don't think you realize that a vast majority of Asians (at least from my experience) are Republicans with lighter stances on (legal) immigration. lolololol Biden's Presidency will be remembered as the "who's that guy again" Presidency. He plans to do basically nothing and return to the good-old-days (even Republicans don't use that as their platform anymore). America needs change as much as it hates to admit it. We live in a world where having a $750 billion dollar military means very little in the grand scheme (no offense). Today, wars and diplomacy are conducted via weltpolitik. France and China (with some US interference) are not trying to colonize Africa, they are trying to buy it. France uses the CFA franc as a financial tool while China plans to build a debt-trap for developing nations. What is the US doing, I might ask? Warmongering with Iran while waging a war not against China, but against economics itself (as history has shown time and time again, the economy always wins). Biden wants to play the "same-old-same-old President" but that's not what the country needs. We live in an ever-changing world and the American people demand, as well as need change. To most, he's just a seasoned old politician who has been fed by lobbyists and has a high time sauteing himself in the ivory tower of Washington. Though I don't necessarily agree with that, that is the standpoint of Republicans and Democrats alike.

This is not to mention "Biden being Biden" and all that stuff.

As much I don't like to hate on Wikipedia, it kinda is bad when it comes to politics. In India, some person changed a politician's Wikipedia page to say that he was "the most corrupt politician" right before an election.

This is true! First Asian-Australian Immigrants are generally center/center-right. Ie, my own Persian parents have voted for both parties, many in the immigrant community agree with the independent economics that right wing politicians talk about. They agree with the socially conservative views that they were raised with being maintained in their new home, but they're also pragmatists and are therefore more politically flexible to moderates.

Yang's policies however, won't be enough to carry the election, I think as a candidate he's changing the debate around UBIs and he's stimulating conversation but he won't win the primaries, and if he does by some miracle pull off a win, he'll lose the General. The midwest isn't going to vote for an Asian-American Californian entrepreneur talking about 'free stuff'. Its too easy for the Murdoch Media to annihilate his messaging.

Thrihanti wrote:Sidenote, America is way to big and to much of a night-watchman state to implement Yang's reforms. It would be more beneficial for America to wait for a few European countries to start experiencing and implementing for instance the base income idea. Meanwhile Yang should focus slow, step by step, reforms.

P.S. the only thing I know about Yang is what is written on his wikipedia page.

I don't agree. The Obama care was also implemented (for a while) which was a great leap forward toward a welfare state. So it's definitely possible.

Vaballathus wrote:I think part of the key to making sure Trump isn’t reelected is swaying the people who voted for him in 2016. And that’s a lot of old white southern conservatives. I live with a lot of those people and of suspect they’d have a few issues with him. Nobody would outright say it but some of them won’t like him because he’s asian, plus he’s relatively young, entirely inexperienced, pretty shallow policy wise, and kinda robotic. Save for the asian part, I share those concerns with him.

I suspect it’s hard to get a grasp of without being here, but the past twelve years have been tough for America. Obama and Trump have been deeply divisive presidents, and there’s a lot of independent unrest. Socially I think America is sort of broken. There’s not a sense of unity, no more common ground one which all Americans can come together. Hell even the 4th of fùcking July is getting turned into a political issue. Right now the last thing America needs is radical change. Yang, and a lot of the other democrat candidates want that. We can’t handle another decisively partisan president. Somebody has to put the social pieces back together and turn America back into America. We need somebody who’s knows what their doing, has the experiences necessary to turn plans into action, who can act bipartisanly, and who can unify the people of this country. And the only person who fits that description is Joe Biden.

I can see where you are coming from. But what about Obama? He was a black African man, and quite left wing. Why did he become president for two terms?

Xin zhong guo wrote:I can see where you are coming from. But what about Obama? He was a black African man, and quite left wing. Why did he become president for two terms?

He was left wing in name only, he was closer to the center than either Bush, or Reagan were. He was left when compared to Clinton but Ted Kennedy would probably label Obamacare as the biggest missed opportunity of the Democratic Party.

Xin zhong guo wrote:I can see where you are coming from. But what about Obama? He was a black African man, and quite left wing. Why did he become president for two terms?

I’d argue his first term was in part social progress, and both terms because of not fantastic republican competition. But Obama kinda kicked off all the hyper partisanship. And the knee-jerk reaction to a left wing black President, was Trump. And I think electing someone like Buttegieg or Harris only proves to be a reaction to the reaction, and serves to perpetuate the hyper partisanship.

Indusian empire

Cyrusa wrote:Yang's policies however, won't be enough to carry the election, I think as a candidate he's changing the debate around UBIs and he's stimulating conversation but he won't win the primaries, and if he does by some miracle pull off a win, he'll lose the General. The midwest isn't going to vote for an Asian-American Californian entrepreneur talking about 'free stuff'. Its too easy for the Murdoch Media to annihilate his messaging.

Honestly speaking, I wouldn't be surprised if they pull a Bernie on Yang. The last election, for example, Bernie won every single county in WV but it went to Clinton. And Yang has also accused NBC of shutting off his mic which NBC denies but seems very plausible (I believe Marianne Williamson also supports Yang's accusation) considering the fact that there was a time when he tried to speak and other candidates were looking at him but no voice came out.

Indusian empire wrote:Well he does focus on many of the issues that got Trump re-elected. And I don't think you realize that a vast majority of Asians (at least from my experience) are Republicans with lighter stances on (legal) immigration. lolololol Biden's Presidency will be remembered as the "who's that guy again" Presidency. He plans to do basically nothing and return to the good-old-days (even Republicans don't use that as their platform anymore). America needs change as much as it hates to admit it. We live in a world where having a $750 billion dollar military means very little in the grand scheme (no offense). Today, wars and diplomacy are conducted via weltpolitik. France and China (with some US interference) are not trying to colonize Africa, they are trying to buy it. France uses the CFA franc as a financial tool while China plans to build a debt-trap for developing nations. What is the US doing, I might ask? Warmongering with Iran while waging a war not against China, but against economics itself (as history has shown time and time again, the economy always wins). Biden wants to play the "same-old-same-old President" but that's not what the country needs. We live in an ever-changing world and the American people demand, as well as need change. To most, he's just a seasoned old politician who has been fed by lobbyists and has a high time sauteing himself in the ivory tower of Washington. Though I don't necessarily agree with that, that is the standpoint of Republicans and Democrats alike.

This is not to mention "Biden being Biden" and all that stuff.

As much I don't like to hate on Wikipedia, it kinda is bad when it comes to politics. In India, some person changed a politician's Wikipedia page to say that he was "the most corrupt politician" right before an election.

I can understand your obvious disgruntled nature with the perceived Washington establishment. And while I feel the point was exaggerated to inaccuracy, I think what your trying to get at is that Biden is a pretty cut-and-dry Democrat. There’s kind of nothing special to his policy. But that’s exactly why America needs him. He’s moderate. He’s experienced. He has the popular support. In the last four or so decades if he wasn’t Vice President he was a Senator. He’s generally politically inoffensive.

Look every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Obama was a reaction to neocons, Trump is the reaction to Obama. Both President ushered in an increasingly divisive era of American society and politics. That has to end. America has to become united again. I don’t disagree that America needs and wants change. The last time America was this socially and politically broken was the Vietnam Era. Electing someone in the far left like most of the democrat field will only make it worse, and serve to bolster Republican far right populist sentiment.

Before we can achieve social and political change, America has to mend itself so it can undergo the stresses of change. As a nation we need to take a deep breath, quit the hyper partisan shït, cease being Republicans and Democrats, and return to being Americans. To do that you need a President with a pretty moderate rhetoric to reach both sides of the isle, with the experience needed to push bipartisan legislation through Congress, and someone with a rhetoric that’s above all unifying. The only person who fits that bill is Biden. And it’s disingenuous to say most people view him that way when he’s the Democrat front runner by something like ten or more points.

Now don’t get me wrong. I don’t think he’s some sort of political prodigy or something. But he’s the only good option in a field of options ranging from mediocre (Harris, Warren) to laughable (Swallwell, Trump).

And I gues there’s your point is that America needs to join in on economically abusing Africa too? And in your point about the military, what do you think maintains US influence globally? What do you think has spent 20 years actively defeating the Taliban? Or keeping Iran from winning the Arab Cold War? Or stopping Russia from inevitably reoccupying Eastern Europe. Or stopping the Korean War from restarting? Or stopping China from creating Pacific Hegemony? Or executing the kind of proper occupation that turns this countries two biggest foes to our vital allies? Or financing the backbone of the most important Alliance in modern history? To deny the necessity of the US military is foolishness.

In an Alternate Dimension, 4th July is just know as "First American Revolution".

Libertinus wrote:In an Alternate Dimension, 4th July is just know as "First American Revolution".

The truth of that depends how you define the Civil War.

Vaballathus wrote:The truth of that depends how you define the Civil War.

A Good Movie. I loved CAP in Civil war.

I Played a Role Play where I created a country called "Enn taris", It was on Tunisia (I made numbers, history and even a language). In the first 100 years, My country was really small, but suddenly I decided to expand. I invaded the rest of north africa (except egypt), Iberia, West france and even Cornwall. In my culture, Normandy was Sacred (becuz the God of my religion, Ibi, arrived in Normandy first). In 700 A.C, we had to battle with Rome. We decided to make a Union, but on 800 AC our union had just died, like our countries. Entaria and Rome were invaded by germanics. I had lost my empire... So I decide to play as Normandy, In my language it was called Ibienntaris. Ibienn was divided in 7 kingdoms, and the king was elected by the people. The kingdoms were pratically the parties. During 1500 I centralized the power and annexed west france. I got some colonies in Americas (We did colonized the americas just in 1620) and I was irrelevant...but...during 1700 I Expanded my brazil, Colonized Haiti, Got a city in Sri Lanka, Colonized part of australia and I expanded A LOT in Africa. I had declared war on Saron (Entarian Portugal), And I annexed it. During what as supposed to be the Victorian era (UK never existed) , I got really relevant. I created the Telephones, Railways, Trains etc. During the 20th Century, I released My Brazil, Haiti, Australia, Papua New Guinea and some parts of africa, All of them where part of my Alliance, the Entarian Commonwealth (I never released north africa or india tho). WHO CREATED THE THEORY OF RELATIVITY? It was not me, it was entarian brazil :/. I tested my first nuke in 50's and during the 20th century, we Had no big war. I released a lot of countries in Iberia and in 1960 I almost got to the moon :(. German USA and Italy got it first. In 1985 I abolished the dictatorship established in my country in 1930 becuz the dictator died, and we established a republic. My religion never changed :)

Based on that History, I created this :)

Thrihanti

Das herrliche reich

Wow, you guys sure aren't very active this summer, but then again why would anyone be into Nationstates in the summertime? You are probably all on vacation having fun!

Das herrliche reich wrote:Wow, you guys sure aren't very active this summer, but then again why would anyone be into Nationstates in the summertime? You are probably all on vacation having fun!

Your nation intrigues me beyond belief.

Das herrliche reich

Das herrliche reich wrote:Wow, you guys sure aren't very active this summer, but then again why would anyone be into Nationstates in the summertime? You are probably all on vacation having fun!

it's Wintertime for me >;(

Das herrliche reich and Cyrusa

Das herrliche reich

Vaballathus wrote:Your nation intrigues me beyond belief.

How so?

Das herrliche reich wrote:How so?

A Kingdom with a communist flag.

Das herrliche reich

Vaballathus wrote:A Kingdom with a communist flag.

Correction, People's Empire, aka, the Volksreich!

Das herrliche reich wrote:Wow, you guys sure aren't very active this summer, but then again why would anyone be into Nationstates in the summertime? You are probably all on vacation having fun!

It is; winter :)

Das herrliche reich

Hm.... how to reboot this region?

Das herrliche reich wrote:Hm.... how to reboot this region?

1. Someone with Admin Powers moves the months forward.
2. People post with the passage of time, I have events that can occur in due time but not in the same month as the Coronation.

Das herrliche reich

Cyrusa wrote:1. Someone with Admin Powers moves the months forward.
2. People post with the passage of time, I have events that can occur in due time but not in the same month as the Coronation.

The RP has been stalled for a while now it appears people have grown bored with it.

Cyrusa wrote:1. Someone with Admin Powers moves the months forward.
2. People post with the passage of time, I have events that can occur in due time but not in the same month as the Coronation.

March has come!

I was loving the Idea of the RP, if the Roleplay is actually going to be restarted, let me know please, I'm going to write the "Final Event RP" that would occur in the end, after Evander reign.

Xin zhong guo

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