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Bibi should resign for failing to prevent that shameful un resolution. The un has reached a new moral low, but we all knew it worths sh!t. The real culprit is Bibi, who for years says Israel under his "leadership" is more respected in the world.
Bibi go home!

Happy hannukah an merry christmas to all.

http://mida.org.il/2014/12/24/thanks-israel-can-merry-christmas/

Israel Ambassador wrote:

How would he have prevented it? The world hates Israel for who you are, not for what you do.

He could have, and should have, avoided spitting in the face of President Obama with his not-agreed-upon address to Congress regarding the Iran deal (which achieved nothing but spite from the Obama regime). He could have, and should have, avoided publicly supporting Romney in 2012. Had he done that, Obama might have been more inclined to veto that resolution.
Bibi single-handedly has lost the historically bipartisan support of Israel in Congress. By making Israel a Republican-only (or, more accurately, a mostly-Republican) issue, he drove Obama into abstaining, rather than blocking, this shameful, biased, unjust, historically-blind and destructive resolution.
Actions have consequences. Bibi go home.

Let's debate this in a civil manner, OK?

Judah wrote:

Happy Hanukkah and Merry Christmas to everyone.

Yes, to you as well.

Judah wrote:

It is not Bibi's fault the UN ... (is) so vehemently anti-Israel.

True, but this is a given. Not his fault that it is so, but it is his fault that he failed to see how really severe this situation is. For years now he claims that Israel's status at the UN is changing for the better. For years he has been claiming that Israel's international status is improving. Just watch his latest address to the general assembly, and its analysis here:
http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Benjamin-Netanyahu/Analysis-In-stark-contrast-to-Abbas-Netanyahu-radiates-optimism-at-UN-468499

So, it's not his fault that it's the case, but it's his fault that he painted a pink picture of Israel's status at the UN, and probably believed his own lies.
Look what he does now, in panic: He starts a diplomatic offense against the nations that voted for that resolution, and against the UN. Why wake up only now? Why, in his General Assembly speech, didn't he make it clear to everyone that Israel will no longer accept that automatic anti-Israel resolutions, and will fight back.

Judah wrote:

Obama administration (is) so vehemently anti-Israel.

Patently false. The Obama regime is not anti-Israel:
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.662588
https://mic.com/articles/30521/obama-israel-trip-is-obama-the-most-pro-israel-president-ever#.dZhWGTxSN
http://nymag.com/news/politics/israel-2011-9/

What is true, however, is that Obama is anti-Settlements, and anti-Bibi. And yes, the latter is his fault.
Bibi has done everything he could to upset Obama and Kerry. Beginning with "lecturing" him ON CAMERA on the 1967 borders, announcing new settlements on the day Kerry arrived at Israel some years ago, addressing Congress without Obama's permission, supporting Romney, and much more.

At the end of line, Bibi failed. He failed and therefore should resign. He goes around for years publishing every success he has (or thinks he has), but when he fails so miserably it's someone elses fault. No no no. He lost and should go home.

Judah wrote:

I think you've gone mad.

Now was that really necessary?

Welp, tonight is my first time working graveyard.
I'll be awake when you Israelis are!

Sea Dolphin Lovers wrote:

He could have, and should have, avoided spitting in the face of President Obama with his not-agreed-upon address to Congress regarding the Iran deal (which achieved nothing but spite from the Obama regime).

Bibi's speech might have achieved nothing, but the entire country is now at threat from a nuclear bomb that Iran can (chas v'chalila) quite easily produce and use to kill millions of Jews in a matter of minutes. Bibi had every reason to try and stop one of the most evil and radical states from getting a nuclear bomb, and to criticise him for it is wrong, in my opinion. Additionally, it's difficult to argue that Obama is pro-Israel when he came up with such a "negotiation" that gambles with Israel's, and Am Yisrael in general's, existence.

By Charles Krauthammer

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/krauthammer123016.php3

Alkzine wrote:

Whether or not Obama is anti-Israel depends on your stance on settlements and your political views. For somebody who is against the settlement enterprise, Obama is looking out for Israel's best interests - but for someone who, like me, believes in the rebuilding and resettlement of Judea and Samaria, it strikes as anti-Israel to condemn us as war criminals for something that we have every right and reason to do.
However, I don't think Obama is necessarily anti-Israel. He's just ignorant, like so many others. Bibi's lecture was a result of Obama's deliberate snub of Israel when he flew to Egypt and delivered a speech catered to anti-Zionist interests and did not even stop off 30 minutes away in Israel. Again, if you're against settlements, Bibi's behaviour is a problem. I don't see why Kerry should get so upset about us building in our home. Kerry's speech was full of ignorance too. From the imaginary "Green Line" to the Med is a TEN MINUTE DRIVE. How can he support another Gaza many times the size in our backyard that can split the country in half in ten minutes?

First, please don't lecture me on the narrowness of Israel's borders or the threats against us. I'm an Israeli living in Jerusalem. I served distinguishly in the IDF. I know all about it and don't need any lectures from Jews choosing to live in the safe diaspora, thank you very much.
Second, you might be surprised here, but I'm not against settlements, and agree 100% that we have the unshakable right to live wherever we want in our ancestral homeland. The problem is, however, that Bibi and his lunatic right-wing government don't distinguish between the right to do something and the geo-political wisdom in doing that. I have the right to go out to the streets and shout "I'm crazy, I'm crazy." That's my right. No one can prevent me from doing so. But should I?
Furthermore, Bibi and his lunatic right-wing government purposely blur the line between Jerusalem, the Biqaa, Gush Etzion on the one hand, and the illegal distant outposts on the other. During Sharon and Olmert's government we had an understanding that we build in Jerusalem and the blocks, but not outside of them. Bibi and his lunatic right-wing government deliberately failed to recognize the difference between the two, so why would the world? When you choose an "all or nothing" approach, you might end up with nothing.

Sea Dolphin Lovers wrote:

Second, what you're also saying is, when you find yourself in a crime neighborhood, threatened by a goon with a gun, what you really should do is o to your friend's house and insult his father, who is the only one who can stop that goon. Yeah, that's smart...

SDL, our State is not helpless. We have the ability to defend ourselves if the situation so necessitates. Secondly, if your friend's father has gone and given your house keys to the gunman in return for a promise that they won't get attacked, one must question a friendship where the relationship is so fragile you can't even ask what the heck they just did.

And yes, it's not just propaganda. Iran getting a nuclear bomb is a) extremely easy with this deal and b), as soon as the fanatical Islamic Republic gets this nuclear weapon, there's only one country it's going to be aiming at. Iran is volatile and will be happy to launch a bomb.

FF or IA I think you should make an exception and agree to the Russian Federation`s request for embassy.

Hi guys. How's it going?

Wow, a lot has happened since I left. The world has literally changed. But it's so good to see you're all still here, and still having heated debates.

Thank you, The Zionist Republic of Flor-Fina, for keeping this region safe.

It's great to have you back, I can sleep again!!