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Newer sodom and gomorrah wrote:No, I've seen the real world my friend. Guess what, It's sh*t! What pisses me of most is people like you that refuse to see the real world and humanity in a hole for what it is. It's S*it, the Human race are evil at birth and the Real World is unforgiving and horrible. examples of people like Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Hitler, Stalin, Osama bin laden, Ivan The Terrible, Vlad the Impaler and events like Armenian Genocide, The Holocaust, The Imperial Expansion, The Ottoman Expansion into Europe and the War on Terror. The world is not sunshine and rainbow, it blood and hate and endless war. I've seen the world how it really is and the Political lefts hypocrisy is a shining example of the real world and double standard and the Rights extreme policy. Like I said, I'm Patriot as in I love my country and willing to die defending it. I'm not xenophobic or Nationalist. I welcome everyone as long as their here to help society be better and not worst. I'm Bi I get discriminated because of my politics not because of my Sexual orientation. I thought this was a community of love and understanding for all those in the LGBT spectrum but I guess not if you're lean slightly right and speak the truth.

I wouldn't say that the world is sunshine and rainbows, but things are not as terrible as you suggest.

For every horrible historical person in your list there are thousands if not millions of ordinary people and ordinary kindnesses happening every single day.

Do you have a source to back up your claim that "the Human race are evil at birth"?

I do tend to think that the state of the world has improved over time compared to say a hundred years ago, and we should cautiously expect this to continue in the future. (It's always possible that this presidency, this decade, this generation etc. is the one where the system breaks down, but people have been predicting the end of the world for thousands of years and they've always been wrong.)

Life expectancy is up: 50-53 in 1911, 75-80 in 2011 (CDC: https://ahundredyearsago.com/2011/08/09/life-expectancy-1911-and-2011/)

Happiness is up: In 49 of the 69 countries with data from two or more surveys, people report higher happiness levels on average (Gallup World Poll, https://ourworldindata.org/happiness-and-life-satisfaction/)

Murder rate in the US is down: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/07/is-violence-in-america-going-up-or-down/491384/

Peace: there is a mixed picture. "The world slightly improved in peace last year but has become less peaceful over the last decade." However it is nowhere near the doom and gloom scenario you describe. (Global Peace Index 2017, http://visionofhumanity.org/indexes/global-peace-index/)

Anyway, these are just some selected easy to find statistics. My point is that life has gotten better for most people compared to 100 years ago. I don't think this is a surprising claim, when you really think about what it was like to live 50, 100, or 500 years ago.

Cale nova

Newer sodom and gomorrah

Discoveria wrote:

As much as this may seem cliché but I've seen things that would make most people go nuts, Grant it, not everyone is doing evil things but I've seen people ignore a dying homeless in the street. Most people aren't "Evil" but they're bystanders or deny it's existence or happening. Plus I've seen evil first hand. I wouldn't like to talk about it but I've seen it. I don't care what humanity has made progress in, it's all voided by the fact that we're all hateful creatures. The fact people stand by while crime or acts of evil happen in front of them makes them just as guilty. Call me a pessimist but I've been around the block a few times. I'm lucky that I have the life I have. I'm not on the streets, I'm not homeless, I'm not starving. However those thing are very much real and the fact most people ignore it or pretend it doesn't affect the makes me sick.

Phoenix throne

So tell me again how Trump is an LGBT ally after today -raised eyebrow and sips tea-

Vampkyrie, Bajor Prime, Bastetipet, and Cale nova

Newer sodom and gomorrah wrote:No, I've seen the real world my friend. Guess what, It's sh*t! What pisses me of most is people like you that refuse to see the real world and humanity in a hole for what it is. It's S*it, the Human race are evil at birth and the Real World is unforgiving and horrible. examples of people like Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Hitler, Stalin, Osama bin laden, Ivan The Terrible, Vlad the Impaler and events like Armenian Genocide, The Holocaust, The Imperial Expansion, The Ottoman Expansion into Europe and the War on Terror. The world is not sunshine and rainbow, it blood and hate and endless war. I've seen the world how it really is and the Political lefts hypocrisy is a shining example of the real world and double standard and the Rights extreme policy. Like I said, I'm Patriot as in I love my country and willing to die defending it. I'm not xenophobic or Nationalist. I welcome everyone as long as their here to help society be better and not worst. I'm Bi I get discriminated because of my politics not because of my Sexual orientation. I thought this was a community of love and understanding for all those in the LGBT spectrum but I guess not if you're lean slightly right and speak the truth.

Oh, I am sorry. If You told the truth, than I won't say one more thing...

Bastetipet

Phoenix throne wrote:So tell me again how Trump is an LGBT ally after today -raised eyebrow and sips tea-

The following link will give the answer - sad! - but true.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/07/26/trumps-lgbt-supporters-defend-him-after-surprise-military-transgender-ban/?utm_term=.82b0c3babfdf

Meanwhile "Leftist Hypocrites" are Fighting the real fight...

https://mobile.twitter.com/IRPGF/status/889445690656608256

Newer sodom and gomorrah

Duodez wrote:Meanwhile "Leftist hypocrites" are fighting the real fight...

Meanwhile Feminist support Islam, the most sexist Religion in the world, LGBT activist also support Palestine meanwhile Palestine kills Gays and finally "We believe in free speech unless you disagree with us then we riot and protest". Yeah, doesn't sound hypocritical to me.

Phoenix throne wrote:So tell me again how Trump is an LGBT ally after today -raised eyebrow and sips tea-

The Transgender ban is going back to Don't ask and don't tell. A Policy by Mr.Bill Clinton I might add. 2nd the US Military doesn't care about gender any way. Frankly they're trying to go to all CO-ED Facilities such as Bathrooms, Showers, Rest Areas and Barracks. Finally last time I check the Last transgender Soldier made the largest leak of Classified and Non-Classified but sensitive Information sense Snowden. Plus Scientific Studies also says Transgender are more likely to kill themselves then any other risk ground and it goes up even more after Transition. Like we have enough Vets killing themselves already.

Danean republic

I don't know what you have experienced and I'm really sorry you have such a bleak view of the world. I have not walked in your shoes and I don't know what you have seen. I don't believe humanity is evil, but then I do live in a peaceful country that tries to give its citizens access to a welfare system that takes care of most of our needs. If you want more than the basic needs you have to work for it, which is what most people do. I am a social worker and I have seen the underbelly of Swedish society and I still see humans as basically good, wanting to better themselves. I find that the reasons for crime is most often related to economic inequality than people are genetically evil or something.

I am however sorry you feel that you are not respected because you speak the truth. I actually do respect you, but I strongly disagree with your views. And I just don't think you can equal being LGBT with automatically being accepting towards every political view any one of us LGBT adhere to. If straight people can't get along politically, why should we suddenly be able to, we are all humans, bickering is what we do. And then we solve the problem and reach a consensus :-)

Discoveria, Duodez, and The horseland

I'm starting to think he is a ranting reddit refugee.

Maybe we should feed more likes to make it feel comfortable.

Bastetipet

Newer sodom and gomorrah

Danean republic wrote:I don't know what you have experienced and I'm really sorry you have such a bleak view of the world. I have not walked in your shoes and I don't know what you have seen. I don't believe humanity is evil, but then I do live in a peaceful country that tries to give its citizens access to a welfare system that takes care of most of our needs. If you want more than the basic needs you have to work for it, which is what most people do. I am a social worker and I have seen the underbelly of Swedish society and I still see humans as basically good, wanting to better themselves. I find that the reasons for crime is most often related to economic inequality than people are genetically evil or something.
I am however sorry you feel that you are not respected because you speak the truth. I actually do respect you, but I strongly disagree with your views. And I just don't think you can equal being LGBT with automatically being accepting towards every political view any one of us LGBT adhere to. If straight people can't get along politically, why should we suddenly be able to, we are all humans, bickering is what we do. And then we solve the problem and reach a consensus :-)

You don't have to agree with me. Never said you did but I have my view and I present my views and What I believe. I only ask my opinion is respected as I respect all of your Opinions. I believe in free will. You all have your opinion and as a human being your entitled to speak your mind. Like I said I ask you respect my views as I respect yours.

Finally Trust me, consider yourself lucky sir or Ma'am that you haven't been in my shoes. I've seen how sick and twisted Humans are and frankly it scares me Sh*tless. It scares me that my next door neighbor could be a murder or worst, it scares me because of my Sexual orientation I'm consider a criminal and must be sentence to death same goes for my beliefs in certain countries. It scares me that I might not live to be an old man, It scares me that the world is a hateful and unforgiving place.

Newer sodom and gomorrah

Infidel State wrote:I'm starting to think he is a ranting reddit refugee.
Maybe we should feed more likes to make it feel comfortable.

I'm just a guy that grew up too fast and seen too many things and needs a outlet to vent.

Vampkyrie and Cale nova

Phoenix throne

Newer sodom and gomorrah wrote:

Finally last time I check the Last transgender Soldier made the largest leak of Classified and Non-Classified but sensitive Information sense Snowden. Plus Scientific Studies also says Transgender are more likely to kill themselves then any other risk ground and it goes up even more after Transition. Like we have enough Vets killing themselves already.

That still means the largest leak was a hetero cis male...
scientific studies also say men are 3.3 times more likely to suicide than women in the USA... does that mean we kick all men out of the military?
even with that aside, that is a very similar argument used to keep homosexuals out of the military... it just doesn't hold water, especially considering the suicide rate in transgenders drops considerably when they can live their life free, and drops again post drop.

Keep in mind I am writing from a Canadian mind set, which probably means even your democrats would find me far left....

The horseland, Cale nova, and Danean republic

Newer sodom and gomorrah

Phoenix throne wrote:That still means the largest leak was a hetero cis male...
scientific studies also say men are 3.3 times more likely to suicide than women in the USA... does that mean we kick all men out of the military?
even with that aside, that is a very similar argument used to keep homosexuals out of the military... it just doesn't hold water, especially considering the suicide rate in transgenders drops considerably when they can live their life free, and drops again post drop.
Keep in mind I am writing from a Canadian mind set, which probably means even your democrats would find me far left....

My point was that Gender shouldn't have a place in the Armed Forces. However Studies show Transgenders men and women are at the highest risk for committing suicide then any other group in the LGBT community and even more so after transition. Other studies say this because of the hormones that they're being injected with causes chemical imbalance in the Brain resulting in suicidal thoughts, actions and or depression. This is because a man isn't meant to take in Estrogen and a Female with testosterone.

Hello! I am the Secretary of State for the region called The Democratic Commonwealth. We would like to Thank you for having an active embassy with us.

Discoveria, Tyrrenian Kingdom, Cale nova, and Phoenix throne

Potato to the power of 5

Gotta love those wonderful polls that you're largely behind the creation of but can't vote on because you don't actually have a nation here.... :P

Phoenix throne

Potato to the power of 5 wrote:Gotta love those wonderful polls that you're largely behind the creation of but can't vote on because you don't actually have a nation here.... :P

You have an amazing nation name.

Phoenix throne

Vampkyrie wrote:You have an amazing nation name.

Mmm! Got me thinking about chips...

Post self-deleted by Greek orthodox christian church.

Greek orthodox christian church

Lazarus

Someone please tell me that this region is supposed to be sarcastic..

Phoenix throne

Just dropped to say hi! So glad to see the region still live and kicking! :D How's everyone doing?

Tyrrenian Kingdom, Infidel State, and Phoenix throne

Phoenix throne

Greek orthodox christian church wrote:Someone please tell me that this region is supposed to be sarcastic..

Supposed to be no, but a lot of us are sarcastic and catty anyway ;)

Vampkyrie, Tyrrenian Kingdom, and Danean republic

Greek orthodox christian church wrote:Someone please tell me that this region is supposed to be sarcastic..

Yes, Honey,in here it's all sarchastic as sarchastic should be thinking about Monasteries all around Greece, Italy, Spain and trying to accept that there is nothing GAY happening in there, yes they don't share any bed together, hm-mh

*hairshading the longest possible, as just Cher could (not perfectly like her, obviously)*

Bastetipet

Drop off baskets of kittens, muffins, mimosas, hugs, and brownies, so Gay can continue to be catty and well fed.

Bajor Prime, Tyrrenian Kingdom, Catanthia, Bastetipet, and 2 othersPhoenix throne, and Danean republic

Phoenix throne

Bearistotle and hebert wrote:Drop off baskets of kittens, muffins, mimosas, hugs, and brownies, so Gay can continue to be catty and well fed.

Kitties!!!!! -ignores food, cuddles all the kittens... Does not share-

Infidel State, Bastetipet, and Danean republic

Newer sodom and gomorrah wrote: I thought this was a community of love and understanding for all those in the LGBT spectrum but I guess not if you're lean slightly right and speak the truth.

Holy Mother of God, if all the blather you've subjected us to is what you see as "slightly right" . . . . what in God's name would you call "far right"?

You ask for love and understanding, but hardly seem to have any yourself to give.

You started digging a hole and went for the dynamite when you hit rock bottom.

Then you hoisted your hoop skirts, grabbed your marbles, and announced you wouldn't play any more because people were not buying what you were selling.

Really? F**king really, that's your game plan?

As far as "truth' is concerned, you're welcome to your own version, but not to an expectation that anyone, let alone everyone, will concur. To be kind, that is unlikely at best.

As I said before, you are most welcome to your own opinion, your own "truth," if you will . . . BUT . . . not to your own facts.

Duodez, PopeXII, Phoenix throne, and Danean republic

Greek orthodox christian church wrote:Someone please tell me that this region is supposed to be sarcastic..

Meow, Kitty . . . .

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