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Danean republic

Promises are easy, and the president has made a lot of them, to almost everyone. I don't trust him. Anyone who sits next to the likes of Bannon and still wave the lgbt-flag can't be trusted.

Duodez and Bastetipet

Post self-deleted by Tyrrenian Kingdom.

Watching from Europe, Trump is a big Fail.

Kundu, Duodez, and Bastetipet

Newer sodom and gomorrah wrote:I respect him because, basically he's not a career politician. Plus he gave up on his Multi-Billion Dollar Company to be President and used his own money to pay for it. I voted for him. I respected him. For Christ sake he's the first Republican President to hold the LGBT Flag and promised to protect LGBT Americans just as much as any other American. Hence why I respect and voted for him.

Uh . . no he didn't give up his company. No it wasn't all or even most of his money. His appointments are of people who are anti-LGBT.

His misstatements are legion, and the people he has appointed are busily working to destroy the country as we know it.

You're welcome to your own opinion, but not your own facts.

Duodez, Phoenix throne, and Artisdam

Newer sodom and gomorrah wrote:I respect him because, basically he's not a career politician. Plus he gave up on his Multi-Billion Dollar Company to be President and used his own money to pay for it. I voted for him. I respected him. For Christ sake he's the first Republican President to hold the LGBT Flag and promised to protect LGBT Americans just as much as any other American. Hence why I respect and voted for him.

He is not a career politician okay. He is a career asshole. But not only that, he has still no clue what it means to be part of your particular political system and he obviously neither can adept nor can he change it in a progressive way.

He is still not a career politician, I give you that. But why, why, please explain it to me, why should your vote for a narcissistic idiot be the answer to a problematic and corrupt political system?
He was still running for the republicans, right? He was still playing the same game, right?
And on what “diverse” kind of voter base he was running on… and you never raised an eyebrow?

Explain to me, please, on what kind of question Donald Trump is your answer.

If you are in a bar and you don’t like the taste of the beer they serve, are you immediately start drinking out of the toilet?

Donald Trump maybe wasn’t anti LGBTIQ in public but when exactly was he “holding the LGBT flag”? I always saw him holding only one flag, a big one with his face and name on it and the textline “I am with stupidity!” at the bottom.
So he maybe did not attack LGBT people directly during his circus presidential campaign but maaaan did he attack women, “mexicans” and other minorities. But i guess that wasn't your problem, hmh?

Bastetipet and Phoenix throne

I wouldnt give up on my son/daughter who runs a billion dollar company. Just sayin.

Duodez wrote:

when exactly was he “holding the LGBT flag”?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lFFXhCP412g

Infidel State wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lFFXhCP412g

Oh, you mean literally... Well, that is kind of cheap... :)

But did I see it right: his name was written on it! Just like I said... Literally.

Infidel State and Tian-qi

Phoenix throne

When I go to a doctor, dentist, or need electric work done, I go to a professional.
I go to them because they know what they are doing, and if im worried they are wrong with their professional opinion, I go get a second opinion from another professional in the same field. Last thing I do is go to someone in a completely different field. I would never go to a plumber for a second medical opinion, why go to a non politician to try and fix your professional issues.

The horseland and Bastetipet

Infidel State wrote:I wouldnt give up on my son/daughter who runs a billion dollar company. Just sayin.

Phoenix throne wrote:When I go to a doctor, dentist, or need electric work done, I go to a professional.
I go to them because they know what they are doing, and if im worried they are wrong with their professional opinion, I go get a second opinion from another professional in the same field. Last thg I do is go to someone in a completely different field. I would never go to a plumber for a second medical opinion, why go to a non politician to try and fix your professional issues.

I've thought that part of the USA's problem is career politicians. On the other hand, government isn't set up to run like a business. You have elected officials and their appointees, and then you have the people who were hired and do most of the work, and are darn near impossible to get rid of because of Civil Service regulations.

So electing a businessman isn't the answer. He or she can't fire people or threaten them with firing. Well, they can threaten, but it has no teeth. He or she can't use business techniques to run government. Perhaps a more diplomatic businessperson would have more skill, and get further.

45 is a lot of bluster, and ranting. Maybe it made his business successful. Maybe his business is successful in spite of it. Either way, he's not uniting the public behind him. Some of us are laughing at him. Some of us are scared to death of him. There's a number who think he's awesome. That's also scary. What the United States are not right now is united.

I've seen lots of presidents elected, or wind up with the job because of so many resignations. I've never seen the populus as divided as it is right now. That's what worries me the most, and all 45 seems able to do is say he was elected and inflate the number of people who voted for him. He needs to let go of the delusion, and just accept he's got the office, and he has to figure out how to get people behind him, instead of yelling at them.

Otis-T, Bastetipet, Danean republic, and Tian-qi

And that doesn't mean I want people to support his policies. I want him to listen to the people and do what they want.

Infidel State and Bastetipet

Vampkyrie wrote:I've thought that part of the USA's problem is career politicians. On the other hand, government isn't set up to run like a business. You have elected officials and their appointees, and then you have the people who were hired and do most of the work, and are darn near impossible to get rid of because of Civil Service regulations.
So electing a businessman isn't the answer. He or she can't fire people or threaten them with firing. Well, they can threaten, but it has no teeth. He or she can't use business techniques to run government. Perhaps a more diplomatic businessperson would have more skill, and get further.
45 is a lot of bluster, and ranting. Maybe it made his business successful. Maybe his business is successful in spite of it. Either way, he's not uniting the public behind him. Some of us are laughing at him. Some of us are scared to death of him. There's a number who think he's awesome. That's also scary. What the United States are not right now is united.
I've seen lots of presidents elected, or wind up with the job because of so many resignations. I've never seen the populus as divided as it is right now. That's what worries me the most, and all 45 seems able to do is say he was elected and inflate the number of people who voted for him. He needs to let go of the delusion, and just accept he's got the office, and he has to figure out how to get people behind him, instead of yelling at them.

His business is less successful than investing the same amount of money he got at the beginning in the stock market.

Bastetipet

The horseland wrote:His business is less successful than investing the same amount of money he got at the beginning in the stock market.

A line that should appear in many more obituaries than currently... :P

The horseland

Newer sodom and gomorrah

Duodez wrote:He is not a career politician okay. He is a career asshole. But not only that, he has still no clue what it means to be part of your particular political system and he obviously neither can adept nor can he change it in a progressive way.
He is still not a career politician, I give you that. But why, why, please explain it to me, why should your vote for a narcissistic idiot be the answer to a problematic and corrupt political system?
He was still running for the republicans, right? He was still playing the same game, right?
And on what “diverse” kind of voter base he was running on… and you never raised an eyebrow?
Explain to me, please, on what kind of question Donald Trump is your answer.
If you are in a bar and you don’t like the taste of the beer they serve, are you immediately start drinking out of the toilet?
Donald Trump maybe wasn’t anti LGBTIQ in public but when exactly was he “holding the LGBT flag”? I always saw him holding only one flag, a big one with his face and name on it and the textline “I am with stupidity!” at the bottom.
So he maybe did not attack LGBT people directly during his circus presidential campaign but maaaan did he attack women, “mexicans” and other minorities. But i guess that wasn't your problem, hmh?

He's my answer to my Nations safety, my safety and my right to speak out against the corrupted Society that has taken over, not only that but Trump is actually trying to be a good president while trying to roll with a populace and Media like this. I ask now what made Mrs.Clinton better? Sorry but my brother is a US Navy Sailor and Benghazi is still fresh in my mind. Not only that she got a Child Rapist off the hook and laughed about it after. Sorry but I prefer Trump then Hillary because Trump is brutally honest. Guest what truth hurts.

Newer sodom and gomorrah

Tyrrenian Kingdom wrote:Watching from Europe, Trump is a big Fail.

Yeah and Europe is burning. Police in England and Sweden are afraid to act because they're afraid as been seen as racist. For God Sakes Norway and Hungary are building Border walls and Malmo Sweden is the Rape capital in Europe. From where I sit Europe is a big fail.

Newer sodom and gomorrah

Duodez wrote:Oh, you mean literally... Well, that is kind of cheap... :)
But did I see it right: his name was written on it! Just like I said... Literally.

I'm part of that same group. Gays for Trump. I'm also a big fan of Milo Yiannopoulos. You know, a Gay, British Trump Supporter.

Newer sodom and gomorrah wrote:Yeah and Europe is burning. Police in England and Sweden are afraid to act because they're afraid as been seen as racist.

No. They just a better and less corrupted justice system compared to for example France and the USA, where abuse of police authority is generally accepted and unpunished (I withnessed this myself). If you have a police force that knows they can get away with anything they will act accordingly.

Newer sodom and gomorrah wrote:

For God Sakes Norway and Hungary are building Border walls.

Between Russia and their ally the state of Serbia. Would you disagree?

Newer sodom and gomorrah wrote:

and Malmo Sweden is the Rape capital in Europe.

Reporting rape and/or sexual harassment is widely encouraged in Sweden and extremely tough enforced on. In my country small sexual harrassment almost never leads to actual punishment, even if you report it. Contrary to "official" numbers Sweden is actually one of the safest EU countries.

Duodez, Phoenix throne, and Danean republic

Whoosh! That conversation about cats on heads got serious fast!

Vampkyrie, Phoenix throne, and Scheynach

Newer sodom and gomorrah wrote:Yeah and Europe is burning. Police in England and Sweden are afraid to act because they're afraid as been seen as racist. For God Sakes Norway and Hungary are building Border walls and Malmo Sweden is the Rape capital in Europe. From where I sit Europe is a big fail.

Maybe it sounded rude and chauvinistic from me, but I just really intended that America as I used to know it, deserves better... It seems like everyone, US too, are taking the road of authoritarianism like in a bad rush of NS issues... look at Turkey, Russia, Poland... and not speaking of the populist movements (luckily not incisive minorities) here in western Europe...

Newer sodom and gomorrah

Infidel State wrote:No. They just a better and less corrupted justice system compared to for example France and the USA, where abuse of police authority is generally accepted and unpunished (I withnessed this myself). If you have a police force that knows they can get away with anything they will act accordingly.
Between Russia and their ally the state of Serbia. Would you disagree?
Reporting rape and/or sexual harassment is widely encouraged in Sweden and extremely tough enforced on. In my country small sexual harrassment almost never leads to actual punishment, even if you report it. Contrary to "official" numbers Sweden is actually one of the safest EU countries.

Except yes, and a justice system that is better? Last time I check Free Speech isn't a thing in the UK, 2nd Police don't abuse their authority and you're a liar if you say that bad cops go unpunished, 3rd Hungary built the Border wall to keep out Illegal Migrant and refuses to take in Syrian Refugees not because of Serbia, 4th I wounder why, Oh because their Muslims and to arrest them will be seen as racist.

Tyrrenian Kingdom wrote:Maybe it sounded rude and chauvinistic from me, but I just really intended that America as I used to know it, deserves better... It seems like everyone, US too, are taking the road of authoritarianism like in a bad rush of NS issues... look at Turkey, Russia, Poland... and not speaking of the populist movements (luckily not incisive minorities) here in western Europe...

America was going down dark before the elections, Job fells and debt went up. Only way to turn that around was through extreme Measures, and Trump is that Extreme measure hence why he was elected. Not Because of a Russian Hack, because the American are tired of getting it in the butt by other countries that we have to protect. Who pays the most to then UN's Peace Keeping Missions and NATO? America! Who's the first in the fight when it comes to International Terrorism? America. Jesus Christ Guys why can't you see that? America should focus on America. We have Vets on the Streets, Kid that are starving and people who are jobless. Trump Promised job and he's keeping that, He promised Defense and he's keeping it. I love my country and I'll die for it. Grant Trump has said stupid things but I believe in Free Speech. Trust me, If Trump goes Dictator I can promise you good American people won't stand by. Same goes for future presidents. Until then I respect him as the Leader of the Free World. You're entitled to your opinion but my are as stated.

Hi guys! Have a great week!

Infidel State, Phoenix throne, and Artisdam

Pueros wrote:Hi guys! Have a great week!

Your nation page is so cute and nice

Newer sodom and gomorrah wrote:Except yes, and a justice system that is better? Last time I check Free Speech isn't a thing in the UK, 2nd Police don't abuse their authority and you're a liar if you say that bad cops go unpunished, 3rd Hungary built the Border wall to keep out Illegal Migrant and refuses to take in Syrian Refugees not because of Serbia, 4th I wounder why, Oh because their Muslims and to arrest them will be seen as racist.
America was going down dark before the elections, Job fells and debt went up. Only way to turn that around was through extreme Measures, and Trump is that Extreme measure hence why he was elected. Not Because of a Russian Hack, because the American are tired of getting it in the butt by other countries that we have to protect. Who pays the most to then UN's Peace Keeping Missions and NATO? America! Who's the first in the fight when it comes to International Terrorism? America. Jesus Christ Guys why can't you see that? America should focus on America. We have Vets on the Streets, Kid that are starving and people who are jobless. Trump Promised job and he's keeping that, He promised Defense and he's keeping it. I love my country and I'll die for it. Grant Trump has said stupid things but I believe in Free Speech. Trust me, If Trump goes Dictator I can promise you good American people won't stand by. Same goes for future presidents. Until then I respect him as the Leader of the Free World. You're entitled to your opinion but my are as stated.

Free speech is pretty much just a soundbite everywhere. Well then why do so many Muslims get arrested? Jobs fell because of uncertainty, which the market doesn't like. America is willing to lead diplomatic initiatives, and often is a good fit. Shouldn't you be thankful for that. Yes, there are starving kids. That's not a reason to vote Trump, it's a reason to volunteer at a food pantry. Trump's job creation is on pace with Obama's (roughly, I don't have the exact numbers), at least until the economy collapses again. How is he keeping the defense promise? By alienating our allies? By wasting funding against illegal immigrants? I think Americans would stand by if Trump becomes a dictator, he's abusing executive orders so much now Trump supporters would call it Fake News and go find an alternative fact. Also, at one point you want him to not lead the free world, then you say he is the leader of the free world and you like that.

Phoenix throne

Infidel State wrote:Between Russia and their ally the state of Serbia.

The border fence Hungary has placed on the Serbian and Croatian borders has nothing to do with Russia, nor those two countries (well except for Hungary being a Russian puppet atm). The current populist and anti-eu Hungarian goverment is simply using the racist rhetoric of "rapist muslims coming to get you" to divert attention from its human rights abuses.

It's the same model Trump uses in USA, the tories use in the UK, and the many other anti-eu and pro nationalistic politicians are using in countries dumb and uneducated enough to fall for this type of basic propaganda. It's all mostly summed up in this book written by a Russian psychopath which many in Russia regard as the holy book https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics

In short, the premise of the book is that Russia is too technologically and culturally backward to be a major force in the world so it should use the one resource it has, propaganda, to destabilize the west (whose values and influence are a threat to the Russian ruling class). That wikipedia article has a nice summary of specific points, such as promoting instability in USA, separation of the UK from Europe (thus weakening both), influencing countries dumb enough to fall for rejecting EU values (Hungary, Poland, Croatia, Serbia, Moldova etc) or just plainly invading countries it deems invadable (Ukraine, Georgia, the Baltics soon?).

Of course it doesn't help that in the 00s USA mostly disbanded its cold war era propaganda machinery in favor of "war on terror", whatever that is.

So for all of you above who "support Trump cause hes an outsider" or cause he waved a gay flag in public, I emplore you to read up a little bit about propaganda and totalitarianism (Hannah Arendt is a wonderful resource, heres an abridged version https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/arendt-matters-revisiting-origins-totalitarianism/ ) because I fear you've had the luxury of living in a relatively stable country for decades and thus lack the aparatus to innately recognize obvious bullshit, pinkwashing and propaganda 101.

Duodez, Phoenix throne, Utopolis primus, and Danean republic

Newer sodom and gomorrah

The horseland wrote:Free speech is pretty much just a soundbite everywhere. Well then why do so many Muslims get arrested? Jobs fell because of uncertainty, which the market doesn't like. America is willing to lead diplomatic initiatives, and often is a good fit. Shouldn't you be thankful for that. Yes, there are starving kids. That's not a reason to vote Trump, it's a reason to volunteer at a food pantry. Trump's job creation is on pace with Obama's (roughly, I don't have the exact numbers), at least until the economy collapses again. How is he keeping the defense promise? By alienating our allies? By wasting funding against illegal immigrants? I think Americans would stand by if Trump becomes a dictator, he's abusing executive orders so much now Trump supporters would call it Fake News and go find an alternative fact. Also, at one point you want him to not lead the free world, then you say he is the leader of the free world and you like that.

First of all, there is a difference between Free Speech and a call to action, I don't know why you think Muslims are getting arrested they're not here, 2nd Jobs fell because Obama destroyed industries Like Mining and Coal, 3rd America shouldn't spend all that money to people who aren't thankful for it, 4th I voted for Trump because of his “America First” Campaign. 5th, He keeping his defense promise because he plans on boosting Defense Budgets, 6th, Obama abused Executive Orders more than Trump, finally Fake News is real because trust me, I’ve seen it first hand, I suggest you get your news from Independent sources, cause everything From Fox, CNN, NBC and other other big news companies are “Fake News” Basically set in reality but twisted to tell a narrative. Like to destroy Trump. Has anyone notice that before Trump went to run for President that he wasn’t called a Racist or Sexist? And yes he was still in the public eye but only because there is an R at the end of his name now that means he’s a racist? Trust Trump was not my first choice however at the end was was better than Hillary. Like I sound I’m American, I’m Pro-Free Speech, Pro-2nd Amendment and I’m Centrist and damn proud to be that. Like I said you have your opinion I have mine.

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