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Furbish Islands wrote:Not Christian but I like Protestants because they got the old testament right, unlike other Christians

Are you Jewish in heritage only or in active religious practice?

Hey it doesnít matter if youíre catholic or Protestant, what matters is that you believe in our lord and savior, Jesus Christ.

This type of infighting is unproductive and unchristian anyways.

New Waldensia wrote:Are you Jewish in heritage only or in active religious practice?

Practice

New Inglaterra wrote:Hey it doesnít matter if youíre catholic or Protestant, what matters is that you believe in our lord and savior, Jesus Christ.

This type of infighting is unproductive and unchristian anyways.

Imagine singling out our resident Jew. ~~Anti Semite!~~

San Carlos Islands wrote:Imagine singling out our resident Jew. ~~Anti Semite!~~

I mean Iím a true conservative so while I prefer Christianity or Judaism (love me some Judeo-Christian values) Iím more meritocratic and populist than anything.

I think of myself as an agnostic theist, I believe in God but I take science into account also.

Furbish Islands wrote:Practice

Oh

I've got this song stuck in my head today ("Paid in Full"): https://youtu.be/LQe7X-WItO0

The group (from a Bible college in my state) has great harmony, and the chorus/a capella section is catchy (it's got a folk/bluegrassy vibe to it) and tough to sing - only four breaths in it!

New Waldensia wrote:Point being? Secularists have their own bias, too, they just don't admit it. We all have the same evidence, but different interpretations of it based on presuppositions.

My point in the beginning was to not blindly follow whichever bias you already have, but it quickly diverged from that

New Waldensia wrote:Where did matter come from?

Christians believe God is preexistent, the "uncaused Cause". Secular/humanist/evolutionary philosophy believes in... matter as preexistent? How does that align with the Laws of Thermodynamics?

Infinite time + infinite chance = incredibly detailed, intricate and fully functioning everything is nonsensical, illogical, and mathematically impossible. It requires more faith to believe that than it does to look at the exponentially complex and beautiful universe around us and believe that there is a Being behind that can explain why things are the way they are.

Mathematically impossible? Chance literally means it could happen on the first go. Also, if matter is the building blocks of everything, it is more logical to believe that it is preexistent as opposed to some all-powerful being.

Liberated American Provinces wrote:
Mathematically impossible? Chance literally means it could happen on the first go.

Sure, but over and over and over and over again to infinity? Mathematically improbable.

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Also, if matter is the building blocks of everything, it is more logical to believe that it is preexistent as opposed to some all-powerful being.

Matter and energy as a fact of universal law breaks down and devolves into disorder. The trend is down, not up.

New Waldensia wrote:Sure, but over and over and over and over again to infinity? Mathematically improbable.

Improbable, not impossible

New Waldensia wrote:Matter and energy as a fact of universal law breaks down and devolves into disorder. The trend is down, not up.

Yes, Law of Entropy. But this only applies to an isolated system.

New Waldensia wrote:But.... I'm a Protestant...

Wait.

I hereby proclaim the truth and salvific necessity of the Five Solas and disband the papacy.

Amen, from a Methodist Protestant. No King but Christ!

Furbish Islands orange man didnít lock her up. :|

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Yes, Law of Entropy. But this only applies to an isolated system.

The laws of thermodynamics don't apply to the universe? First I've ever heard.

San Carlos Islands wrote:Imagine not being part of a Church founded by Jesus Christ himself.

You mean all churches?

Tfw you believe science and religion go together, and are religious, but don't believe in Jesus Christ so every side of the argument hates you. :(

Aeternitatia wrote:You mean all churches?

No.

New Waldensia wrote:The laws of thermodynamics don't apply to the universe? First I've ever heard.

Not what I said . . . I'm saying that the Law of Entropy only applies to an isolated system. How do we know that the Universe is an isolated system?

Monkaslavia wrote:I nominate New Waldensia as Pope of the FCN.

I nominate New Waldensia as trusted teacher of the Church of FCN.

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Not what I said . . . I'm saying that the Law of Entropy only applies to an isolated system. How do we know that the Universe is an isolated system?

Bruh it was a speck in the middle of nothing, and then it somehow expanded into nothing, and somehow through all that chaos, harmony? No.

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:Bruh it was a speck in the middle of nothing, and then it somehow expanded into nothing, and somehow through all that chaos, harmony? No.

Yeah, because Magic Sky Daddy is the most logical thing in the world just because some 2000 years old book told you so

Liberated American Provinces wrote:Yeah, because Magic Sky Daddy is the most logical thing in the world just because some 2000 years old book told you so

It's actually older, and also sky daddy sounds weird. God exists outside of time and space, therefore he can't be measured using human measurements of time, therefore he is infinite, and he has always been here, time didn't even exist before the universe.

And it's so logical to believe a Magic Speck decided to explode for no reason whatsoever. I mean it couldn't have been there forever, and I don't think it just appeared. Unless someone put it there.

Oh and also we are losing the Private Prison proposal, Gagium

Paleoconservative Citizens wrote:Oh and also we are losing the Private Prison proposal, Gagium

Good. I voted Aye.

San Carlos Islands wrote:Good. I voted Aye.

Whyyyyy

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