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The Sovereign Realist State wrote:This is to me the most absolute indictment of anyone, pretending to have any moral authority, to opine on civic regulation.

I don't know how old you are but if you do not have the emotional maturity to read opposing view points without being triggered, you should be the last person to make decisions or even as little as commenting on such matters.

The only 'darkness' I see is biased censorship and disrespect. But I suppose your sensitivities are not quite as affected when people are gagged for their views, if those don't happen to conform with yours.

If you believe God created us, then you should also believe that he created us to have differences. To stifle those differences is not moral.

Since you're ok with being silenced for your views, and since surely you are not a hypocrite, then I leave the same suggestion I have left to others: go ahead and delete your previous comments; I am offended, therefore they need to go.

THIS POST DID NOT OFFEND ANYONE, YOU ARE BEING AUTHORITARIAN, CENSORING THOSE THAT DISSENT FROM YOU.

What "law" have being used now, what law?

If this is common law you created a tradition and a precedent, "dissent is forbidden", this region became just a Father Known Best State, an Oligarchy.

United hispaniola

United hispaniola

Prudentias wrote:THIS POST DID NOT OFFEND ANYONE, YOU ARE BEING AUTHORITARIAN, CENSORING THOSE THAT DISSENT FROM YOU.

This censorship is Totalitarian rather than simply Authoritarian.

From wikipedia: "the authoritarian state [...] is only concerned with political power and as long as it is not contested it gives society a certain degree of liberty." In contrast, Richard Pipes writes "a totalitarian regime attempts to control virtually all aspects of the social life"

Prudentias wrote:THIS POST DID NOT OFFEND ANYONE, YOU ARE BEING AUTHORITARIAN, CENSORING THOSE THAT DISSENT FROM YOU.

What "law" have being used now, what law?

If this is common law you created a tradition and a precedent, "dissent is forbidden", this region became just a Father Known Best State, an Oligarchy.

Lines 8 and 9 of the Order of Decorum were broken. One cannot insinuate or straight up call them emotionally immature just out of disagreement. One either acts respectfully and humanely or the law will deal with them.

Castle Federation wrote:

Lines 8 and 9 of the Order of Decorum were broken. One cannot insinuate or straight up call them emotionally immature just out of disagreement. One either acts respectfully and humanely or the law will deal with them.

This is not an offense at all, it is not even disrespect, you are using the law for your own benefit, to suppress anyone against you.

And yes what you are doing is an act of emotional immaturity, you are acting on pure vilany, your government lost legitimacy thanks to your authoritarian acts based not on law, but your will.

Absolutely nobody here will defy this travesty?

You will really bow to this government?

Yes I am not an example on this community far from it.

The problem is that now this government don't even try to disguise it's vicious corruption of catholic principles, you all must rebel against this government.

United hispaniola

United hispaniola wrote:
This censorship is Totalitarian rather than simply Authoritarian. 

From wikipedia: "the authoritarian state [...] is only concerned with political power and as long as it is not contested it gives society a certain degree of liberty." In contrast, Richard Pipes writes "a totalitarian regime attempts to control virtually all aspects of the social life"

Castle Federation is clearly an elected tyrant. To criticize him is an offense, to even criticize him denouncing it's immaturity and worse, putting it as a crime show that he is unfit for power because he will abuse it, as he is doing, we must rebel against this tyrant.

United hispaniola

I seem to recall that there was a dislike of liberalism and more modern western ideologies of today (in fact there was some authoritarian sympathies in this region by a few nations). Strangely enough now some of you cling to some liberal values as sacred all of the sudden, when your track record showed your disgust of such values.

"Freedom of Speech" is one such value that is extremely misunderstood. I studied constitutional law so I am well acquainted how freedom of speech has been understood with an American context. Freedom of speech is essentially a right that is applied to the government. To simplify, In the American experience freedom of speech means that the government cannot restrict your speech unless it falls under a few criteria (it doesn't stop private individuals/firms from restricting the speech of other private individuals/firms). When freedom of speech is restricted by the state, the state has to provide a justification that usually falls under "security".

This region is part of an online game. No one is obligated to follow anything except the rules imposed by the website. As for this region, yes this region was one of discussions but keep in mind that this region is under the ownership of the founder, and they are fully in their right to impose anything if it respects the site's rules, just as we are to make our own region and leave. In this particular case, suppressions are practically a cosmetic, real censorship is outright deletion.

As for the dialogue that is being defended, some of it is just outright hostility. Meaningful dialogue stops being Meaningful when you begin to attack others directly by race or character. Some of you can't claim that there was a grave injustice after you use your platform to belittle others.

[I'm purposely not referring to the jury comment. I am very opposed to your point of view on this topic Prudentias but I didn't find it to be outright egregious enough that needed a suppression]

Fredgast wrote:None of us are completely free of sin that is why this power grab disguised as virtue is terrible. I will keep saying what the holy spirit wants me to say and anyone who is against that is against the spirit which is within me which is God.

This self-righteousness is infuriating. You can be inspired by the Holy Spirit but you can never claim that you speak for God directly wether it be in an argument, drama or any other squabble.

Prudentias wrote:

The problem is that now this government don't even try to disguise it's vicious corruption of catholic principles, you all must rebel against this government.

What catholic principles exactly did this region corrupt? You can have your problems with the region but this isn't doctrinal drama, this is regional.

My major gripes with the current drama is the use of faith, God, and church as a tool to be used to defend a side in a petty drama in an online game

United hispaniola

Cristero wrote:Some of you can't claim that there was a grave injustice after you use your platform to belittle others.

Watch your speech, this statement is in violation of line 9 in The Order of Decorum.
"9. No matter how disagreeable an idea is, the focus of discussion must remain on the logistical and rational errors of the idea rather than the fault or imperfections of the idea’s holder."

United hispaniola wrote:Watch your speech, this statement is in violation of line 9 in The Order of Decorum.
"9. No matter how disagreeable an idea is, the focus of discussion must remain on the logistical and rational errors of the idea rather than the fault or imperfections of the idea’s holder."

That is an incorrect interpretation of rule 9. Cristero remained focused on the rational errors of the argument.

United hispaniola

Wagafraga wrote:That is an incorrect interpretation of rule 9. Cristero remained focused on the rational errors of the argument.

Great example already of how the rules will be misapplied

Given that the statement was stating an action which was factual to the situation, I am not inclined to classify the statement as an infraction of line 9.

Also, I came up with a fun nickname for the Order on Decorum and Character which will make it an easier shorthand for everyone.

"ODeco"

I just had a thought that planning a funeral mass and where the burial spot is would only be 0.1% of the preparation for a funeral (yes I know I simplified the funeral process but that's not the point.) The other 99.9% is what you do in life. Developing your relationship with God, practicing the virtues, avoiding sin and serving God, and having faith in Christ.

It is a great gift that one can give if even in death, in time of mourning, one can share the hope of Christ and life after death.

Castle Federation, Kaiserlichen, United hispaniola, Fredgast, and 1 otherCristero

United hispaniola

The Pilgrims in the Desert wrote:I just had a thought that planning a funeral mass and where the burial spot is would only be 0.1% of the preparation for a funeral (yes I know I simplified the funeral process but that's not the point.) The other 99.9% is what you do in life. Developing your relationship with God, practicing the virtues, avoiding sin and serving God, and having faith in Christ.

It is a great gift that one can give if even in death, in time of mourning, one can share the hope of Christ and life and death.

I'm not certain if it was a Catholic Preist or not preforming a burial service I attended. Irregardless one idea he shared stuck with me.
When looking at a headstone we see the brith and death years. (1905-1986)
While both the beginning and end of life hold significance everything that we really remember about the person happened in that little dash in the middle.

Cristero wrote:This self-righteousness is infuriating. You can be inspired by the Holy Spirit but you can never claim that you speak for God directly wether it be in an argument, drama or any other squabble.

What catholic principles exactly did this region corrupt? You can have your problems with the region but this isn't doctrinal drama, this is regional.

My major gripes with the current drama is the use of faith, God, and church as a tool to be used to defend a side in a petty drama in an online game

I am not against the region, I am against it's government or at least how it is acting, and this is far from being a drama, I am against the government that is clearly governing without Catholic principles, these principles may be found on the Catechism of the Catholic Church, these are some of the principles that is not being obeyed at all by the arbitrary censorship not only of my post about the judgement on USA but the censorship of dissent that was made, this is a serious issue.

1902 Authority does not derive its moral legitimacy from itself. It must not behave in a despotic manner, but must act for the common good as a "moral force based on freedom and a sense of responsibility"

A human law has the character of law to the extent that it accords with right reason, and thus derives from the eternal law. Insofar as it falls short of right reason it is said to be an unjust law, and thus has not so much the nature of law as of a kind of violence.

Authority is exercised legitimately only when it seeks the common good of the group concerned and if it employs morally licit means to attain it. If rulers were to enact unjust laws or take measures contrary to the moral order, such arrangements would not be binding in conscience. In such a case, "authority breaks down completely and results in shameful abuse."23

1904 "It is preferable that each power be balanced by other powers and by other spheres of responsibility which keep it within proper bounds. This is the principle of the 'rule of law,' in which the law is sovereign and not the arbitrary will of men."

1923 Political authority must be exercised within the limits of the moral order and must guarantee the conditions for the exercise of freedom.

When the current government gives a censorship based on a dubious interpretation of what has been said, is asked about the rule of the law and claiming a common law system create a rule with basis of his own will to justify censorship, it is openly going against this. Castle Federation go beyond just censoring a post without any constitution or law, he now begun to make law to favor himself and censored a post criticizing him with the excuse of being an offense.

The law is not being make to common good but for himself and is evading moral law, the suppression of dissent is not being made under reason but for his own benefits, what is happening is exactly what like is alerted in the Cathecism, the authority broken down completely and resulted in shameful abuse.

Considering what is happening, it is not a drama or an option to openly insurrect against this government, it is by the Catholic teaching my duty to oppose it.

United hispaniola

Cristero wrote:This self-righteousness is infuriating. You can be inspired by the Holy Spirit but you can never claim that you speak for God directly wether it be in an argument, drama or any other squabble.

I do speak for God in this regard, you can hate me all you want along with all my so called brothers who liked your comment where you offend me but I believe in the Holy Spirit which resides in me. You call me self-rightgeous but in the sentence you quoted me I literally called myself a sinner, I am dust but I know my worth in Jesus Christ.

You know what Castle Federation everything was fine here until you started going on your power trip leading to all this division and hatred. I think everyone who is going along with this mob is acting shamefully and right into the hand of Satan. Also why isn't Cristero's post suppressed even though he just broke rule 8 and 9 of the decorum against me? This kind of hypocrisy is what I am talking about.

1 John 2:9 "Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness."

Romans 16:17-18 "I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive."

Titus 3:9-11 "But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned."

Jesus is Lord.

United hispaniola

Fredgast wrote:I do speak for God in this regard, you can hate me all you want along with all my so called brothers who liked your comment where you offend me but I believe in the Holy Spirit which resides in me. You call me self-rightgeous but in the sentence you quoted me I literally called myself a sinner, I am dust but I know my worth in Jesus Christ.

You know what Castle Federation everything was fine here until you started going on your power trip leading to all this division and hatred. I think everyone who is going along with this mob is acting shamefully and right into the hand of Satan. Also why isn't Cristero's post suppressed even though he just broke rule 8 and 9 of the decorum against me? This kind of hypocrisy is what I am talking about.

1 John 2:9 "Whoever says he is in the light and hates his brother is still in darkness."

Romans 16:17-18 "I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive."

Titus 3:9-11 "But avoid foolish controversies, genealogies, dissensions, and quarrels about the law, for they are unprofitable and worthless. As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned."

Jesus is Lord.

I don't hate you nor do I have ill feelings towards you, but I am disappointed. Divine Inspiration is not something to be taken lightly, and it should especially not be used as a means to justify oneself in a dispute.

Kaiserlichen and Fredgast

Cristero wrote:I don't hate you nor do I have ill feelings towards you, but I am disappointed. Divine Inspiration is not something to be taken lightly, and it should especially not be used as a means to justify oneself in a dispute.

I can understand you oppose anyone taking the Lord's name in vain brother so to clarify when I speak I just let the Holy spirit do it's thing while I try to moderate out anything that comes from my evil heart. I am evil but the Lord is good.

Maybe it was a bit too rhetorical and a statement by my evil heart but the statement "I will keep saying what the holy spirit wants me to say and anyone who is against that is against the spirit which is within me which is God." is 100% true (at least as far as I believe), although yes a bit rhetorical. I'm not saying anything else I say is 100% true or that brothers should use the Lord's name to falsely claim race is a factor in anything.

My opinion is that to even acknowledge race as an entity goes against what the Lord has taught us which is: Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.". I seriously couldn't care less what someone's heritage is, for all you know I might have black skin, what difference would it make?

So maybe we should all just relax and I apologize if I said anything hurtful to anyone or if I said something that is false. I again implore everyone who left to just come back for the love of God and unity. The Sovereign Realist State Oire and everyone else.

God bless you all and let his mercy and love reign supreme.

Jesus is Lord.

Seeing everyone leave is making me miss Templedon even more. Despite him having a different religious belief, he was a legend.

The orion islands

Just attempted to use an issue to cut my tax rate, but they went up slightly. How can I cut my tax rate?

To everyone: Who is one saint that you really relate with or admire and why?

Castle Federation wrote:To everyone: Who is one saint that you really relate with or admire and why?

Have always had a relationship with St. Thomas More. He was the patron saint of my high school, due to his scholarly background, he must be looking after me.

Castle Federation wrote:To everyone: Who is one saint that you really relate with or admire and why?

It’s way too hard to pick just one, I shall give you two saints and two that will become saints.
-St Monica has been a major role model for me since I was about 10. Such a beautiful example of a faith-centered life and authentic womanhood/motherhood!
-St Augustine, who I am determined to name a son after, partly because his eloquent style of writing is something that really formed me as a youth. That man liked his words.
-Bl Pier Giorgio Frassati, who seems to be rapidly rising in popularity. His authentic friendships and deep care for the poor are really inspiring. Verso L’Alto!
-Bl Carlo Acutis. He and I share a passion for spreading knowledge about the True Presence, he spent his short life compiling a website/traveling presentation with as many details on Eucharistic Miracles as he could find. I think it’s amazing that I can visit a website that was coded by someone who is now beatified!

Castle Federation, Fredgast, and Cristero

Castle Federation wrote:To everyone: Who is one saint that you really relate with or admire and why?

I could give an entire list but these are the first 3 that came to mind:

The blessed virgin Mary who had been very important in my faith since I was a child.

St. Louis who inspired me to learn what the Catholic Church teaches.

St. Thomas Aquinas for showing me that faith and reason are not separate and because I like learning philosophy and theology.

Castle Federation, Fredgast, and Cristero

Castle Federation wrote:To everyone: Who is one saint that you really relate with or admire and why?

My confirmation Saint..Francis. Not just one though but three. Saint Francis de Sales for one, he is the patron saint of journalists and I work in TV news.
Also it is said it took him over twenty years to combat his anger problems. Something I myself have been working on.
Francis Xavier. I attend a Jesuit parish and they've really took me and and have molded me into who I am now, and for that I'll be forever grateful. Plus, I admire the Jesuits and the education and missionary work, even though some of their beliefs may be a little too progressive for me...
Finally yes of course Francis of Assisi. Patron saint of animals, and I am a HUGE animal love. The other reason is that his early years are so similar to mine.

Francis is also the name of one of my great cousins that helped me get through college debt free, and I admire is passion to help us out.

Francis.

Francis wrote:

Francis Xavier. I attend a Jesuit parish and they've really took me and and have molded me into who I am now, and for that I'll be forever grateful. Plus, I admire the Jesuits and the education and missionary work, even though some of their beliefs may be a little too progressive for me...

I briefly went to a Xaverian Order high school named after Saint Francis Xavier. You might be interested in them. They are education focused, and less progressive. They run over a dozen high schools in the US.

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