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WA Delegate (non-executive): The Revolutionary Communists of Enclave of Soviet Germany (elected )

Founder: The Communist State of RedCommunist

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Most World Assembly Endorsements: 32nd Most Influential: 40th Most Nations: 153rd+26
Lowest Crime Rates: 557th Largest Black Market: 613th Largest Governments: 698th Highest Foreign Aid Spending: 751st Most Beautiful Environments: 910th Most Advanced Public Transport: 911th Largest Welfare Programs: 914th Most Cultured: 919th Most Eco-Friendly Governments: 922nd Most Extensive Public Healthcare: 989th Healthiest Citizens: 1,006th Smartest Citizens: 1,009th Most Advanced Public Education: 1,059th Most Advanced Law Enforcement: 1,082nd Nicest Citizens: 1,149th Most Inclusive: 1,154th Highest Poor Incomes: 1,191st Most Compassionate Citizens: 1,194th Most Popular Tourist Destinations: 1,280th Most Advanced Defense Forces: 1,295th Highest Average Tax Rates: 1,330th Most Subsidized Industry: 1,437th Highest Economic Output: 1,446th Most Secular: 1,514th Best Weather: 1,619th Longest Average Lifespans: 1,845th
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.: Union of Soviet Socialist Republics :.
The USSR, a region founded on Dec 17, 2002, has long been in the spotlight of the world. Founded on the glorious works of Lenin and Marx, the USSR shall stay strong in its quest for glory. We have a great community, along with our activity, we promise you that you will enjoy your stay in the USSR. We welcome you to our socialist-communist ideal region and hope you become active in the community. Glory to our Soviet Union!
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USSR Government
Premier of the USSR: The Revolutionary Communists of Enclave of Soviet Germany
Commissar of Foreign Affairs: The Soviet Socialist Republic of Bratislavskaya
Commissar of Internal Affairs: The Socialist Federal Republic of Terricon


Embassies: Europe, Germany, Anticapitalist Alliance, Allied States of EuroIslanders, United Socialist Republics, India, The Communist Party of NationStates, Union of the World Socialist Republics, Soviet Union, North Korea, The Internationale, The Communist Bloc, International Debating Area, The United Communist Republics, The Embassy, The International Socialist Alliance, and 1 other.Role Player Coalition.

Tags: Large, Role Player, World Assembly, Anti-Capitalist, Democratic, Regional Government, Socialist, Communist, Game Player, Industrial, and Anti-Fascist.

Regional Power: Very High

USSR contains 82 nations, the 153rd most in the world.

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World Census interns were framed for minor crimes in order to measure the response times, effectiveness, and amount of firepower deployed by the law enforcement agencies of different nations.

As a region, USSR is ranked 1,082nd in the world for Most Advanced Law Enforcement.

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The Soviet Socialist Republic of Bratislavskaya wrote:I heard that everything was kicking off down there. What group were you there with?

I was with my own, the Communist International / Stalinist-Hoxhaist (our German section is the successor of the KPD/ML).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3dTa0e5f7k <- there you can see our flags at the wall a few meters behind the megaphone car before we had to cross the street at 2:02 since we were being cornered ^^

Bratislavskaya and Soviet Polsol

The Bavarian Council Republic of Eulenberg wrote:I was with my own, the Communist International / Stalinist-Hoxhaist (our German section is the successor of the KPD/ML).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3dTa0e5f7k <- there you can see our flags at the wall a few meters behind the megaphone car before we had to cross the street at 2:02 since we were being cornered ^^

Deffinately a bit more hairy than anything I've been involved in as of yet. A few of ours (YCL GB) got into a confrontation with some Fascists at a counter-demo to a Racist March in Manchester just after the Manchester attacks, had to retreat in the end as they were outnumbered and the police preferred attacking the counter demonstraters to the racists (As per the norm).

It's fascinating, in the US you don't see these kinda of protests, or at least not until very recently. Most of our demonstrations like what you're describing about the G20 are typically met with LRADs and slander of riots and violence and etc. For a nation that is for "freedom of speech", it seems we fall very far behind you European counterparts.

The ߎߣߌߐߣ ߐߝ ߝߍߘߍߙߊߕߌߐߣߛ of Hvalfyurden wrote:It's fascinating, in the US you don't see these kinda of protests, or at least not until very recently. Most of our demonstrations like what you're describing about the G20 are typically met with LRADs and slander of riots and violence and etc. For a nation that is for "freedom of speech", it seems we fall very far behind you European counterparts.

Oh and I almost forgot, typically these protests are met with the utmost of police brutality (teargas and what have you). The G20 protests were met with police resistance, but I never saw anything like the police sending in armored trucks and using LRADs, tear gas, violence, and etc directly and immediately against the crowds.

The ߎߣߌߐߣ ߐߝ ߝߍߘߍߙߊߕߌߐߣߛ of Hvalfyurden wrote:Oh and I almost forgot, typically these protests are met with the utmost of police brutality (teargas and what have you). The G20 protests were met with police resistance, but I never saw anything like the police sending in armored trucks and using LRADs, tear gas, violence, and etc directly and immediately against the crowds.

Um, that's common practice here too, and especially the G20 was a prime example for police brutality. Not only tear gas, water cannons, extreme violence etc., but also psychological terror (they shut down all traffic in the whole city to hunt leftists, constantly circled over the sleeping camps with helicopters, raided them at night... they also stopped and detained buses full of minors, forced them to strip naked in front of each other and beat them...) ...and furthermore, most of the police violence was downright illegal. And nobody cares. Hamburg's police director (who is known for enforcing extreme violence even if it's illegal) just ignored both the law and court rulings, and the media as well as the Police Union celebrate him for breaking the law to protect order, "overruling the unwordliness of the courts" and suggesting the right to demonstrate should be abolished in the first place.
Coincidentially, a law was just passed that allows the state to use electronic footcuffs on "Gefährder" ("endangerers") and put them into prison without trial for unlimited time - thing is, "Gefährder" are not criminals, but people the police believes could one day become criminals - so they can basically put anyone into prison for as long as they want.

Soviet Polsol

The Bavarian Council Republic of Eulenberg wrote:Um, that's common practice here too, and especially the G20 was a prime example for police brutality. Not only tear gas, water cannons, extreme violence etc., but also psychological terror (they shut down all traffic in the whole city to hunt leftists, constantly circled over the sleeping camps with helicopters, raided them at night... they also stopped and detained buses full of minors, forced them to strip naked in front of each other and beat them...) ...and furthermore, most of the police violence was downright illegal. And nobody cares. Hamburg's police director (who is known for enforcing extreme violence even if it's illegal) just ignored both the law and court rulings, and the media as well as the Police Union celebrate him for breaking the law to protect order, "overruling the unwordliness of the courts" and suggesting the right to demonstrate should be abolished in the first place.
Coincidentially, a law was just passed that allows the state to use electronic footcuffs on "Gefährder" ("endangerers") and put them into prison without trial for unlimited time - thing is, "Gefährder" are not criminals, but people the police believes could one day become criminals - so they can basically put anyone into prison for as long as they want.

However, in what I am saying. You can actually organize enough to have such demonstrations in a nation where Right to Protest is actually very restricted (as in Nazi's cant protest and etc). Police brutality there is while terrible and unlawful and should be condemned, it is still expected since your laws are somewhat restricting. Here in the US, we have Right to protest, it's in our constitution that we can protest such things. However, with the exception of very few events (such as Women's march and etc), it is typically met with immediate police brutality. For example, if I were to walk down the street to the local Dunkin' Donuts and were to protest them based on health reasons (I worked at one, trust me you're likely to get the flu from there), I would be arrested virtually immediately. There's a difference between protests of which fight the very politicians themselves, like the G20 being met with resistance. But its an entirely different story when you have a constitutional right to protest, and any and all acts of protest not on a major scale are met with arrests and unlawful court hearings.

The German and international police forces obviously are going to be brutal towards socialists. There's such a stigma around it and you're going against the men who line their wallets. However, if you saw, the other parties protesting who weren't socialist, like the women's rights parties or the racial equality parties, they weren't met with nearly as much resistance. However, here in the US, unless it's designated as a parade, it's met with resistance. Protesting you rlocal McDonalds outside of the town hall meeting rooms is met with arrests, standing outside public buildings organizing as protests are met with arrests, marches through the streets with otherwise unapproved (by the local govt) action is met with "Crowd dispersing instruments." Sitting in a town park rallying for your cause without paying the park or getting permission is met with arrests and fines. Celebrating sports games and cheering for one's team is met with crowd dispersing instruments, petitioning against things in your local government without signed approval from the town hall, which you are petitioning against, is met with harassment charges and arrest. organizing in areas the Federal government disapproves of is met with arrest. Demonstrations at schools are met with immediate and swift police action. Crowdfunding something that fights against the US govt is often suppressed. Media that promotes socialism is usually suppressed. LGBT rights movements, despite gay marriage being "legal" nationwide, are often met with police brutality, the media coverage is then suppressed (mostly in the south). Race equality movements are often slandered by the police for being "violent" when there was no actual violence by anyone except the police. Self defense is no longer an excuse in this country, no matter what a cop does to you, if you fight back verbally or physically outside of a courtroom, you go to jail. If you protest in national parks, you're arrested. If you protest a pipeline being built on your government sanctioned land, you're arrested, shot, shot with rubber bullets, have LRADs used against you, have cold water in freezing temperatures sprayed on you all times of day, ave barbed wire put between you and your house and grocery store to starve you, beaten in some cases to death by police, have the national guard come and use tear gas on you, and so much more defending something that was unlawful from the start. I could go on and on about police brutality in this nation. You were able to assemble outdoors, and succeeded in not being fully dispersed by the end of the rally. Here in the US, that virtually never occurs. The DSA, CPUSA, APL, and RevCom all have to fight from within closed doors. RevCom held an "Anti-Fourth of July Picnic" in Central Park, and many were temporarily arrested, and many were my friends in the party. They weren't even protesting anything. They were assembling to support communism in a park lawfully given to them for their discretion. They weren't lobbying against politicians in the G20, they weren't standing around with megaphones shouting up at political buildings. They were having lunch in a PUBLIC park and discussing communsim within themselves, and got dispersed and arrested (temporarily) for "unlawful assembly" WHICH BY ITSELF IS AN UNLAWFUL CHARGE, IT VIOLATES OUR CONSTITUTION.

I did not try to imply you weren't met with severe police brutality, I was rather tryingn to imply that many other groups besides your own were able to peacefully protest the G20, which is something that is seldom here. My apologies if it came off like I was saying that Germany is police-brutality free, that was not my intention. I was saying how even though your rights to protest are very different, and far more restricting than ours are supposed to be, you can demonstrate and organize in ways US parties and groups can only dream of.

Granted none of what I said applies to Neo-Nazi or KKK rallies, or otherwise heavily [socially] conservative rallies. Those are left untouched.

Soviet Polsol and Eulenberg

The ߎߣߌߐߣ ߐߝ ߝߍߘߍߙߊߕߌߐߣߛ of Hvalfyurden wrote:(lots of text)

I didn't think you wanted to imply that, I just think you make some false assumptions about how the judicial situation is around here. :)
We also have a constitutional right to demonstrate, however any assembly has to be approved by the authorities beforehand. If a bunch of people assemble "appearing as a single mass" without getting official permission (so that the police can "protect the right to demonstrate", which is the most bitter sarcasm), it's technically illegal, though it's obviously only met with police action like you describe it if it is political. Generally, police brutality is not nearly as worse here as it is in the US, that's true, but the repressions you describe are the same, and open violence is on the rise again, which is worrying.
I think the main difference between the US and Germany in that regard is that we've had a police state since the 70s, which means things have been relaxed since then, while the US only started theirs after 9/11.

Hvalfyurden, Terricon, and Soviet Polsol

The Bavarian Council Republic of Eulenberg wrote:I didn't think you wanted to imply that, I just think you make some false assumptions about how the judicial situation is around here. :)
We also have a constitutional right to demonstrate, however any assembly has to be approved by the authorities beforehand. If a bunch of people assemble "appearing as a single mass" without getting official permission (so that the police can "protect the right to demonstrate", which is the most bitter sarcasm), it's technically illegal, though it's obviously only met with police action like you describe it if it is political. Generally, police brutality is not nearly as worse here as it is in the US, that's true, but the repressions you describe are the same, and open violence is on the rise again, which is worrying.
I think the main difference between the US and Germany in that regard is that we've had a police state since the 70s, which means things have been relaxed since then, while the US only started theirs after 9/11.

And sadly, neither of our nations intends to stop.

Eulenberg

The Bavarian Council Republic of Eulenberg wrote:I didn't think you wanted to imply that, I just think you make some false assumptions about how the judicial situation is around here. :)
We also have a constitutional right to demonstrate, however any assembly has to be approved by the authorities beforehand. If a bunch of people assemble "appearing as a single mass" without getting official permission (so that the police can "protect the right to demonstrate", which is the most bitter sarcasm), it's technically illegal, though it's obviously only met with police action like you describe it if it is political. Generally, police brutality is not nearly as worse here as it is in the US, that's true, but the repressions you describe are the same, and open violence is on the rise again, which is worrying.
I think the main difference between the US and Germany in that regard is that we've had a police state since the 70s, which means things have been relaxed since then, while the US only started theirs after 9/11.

Sorry about my double messages, I know they can be bothersome. But I would also like to point out, the US has been an incredibly brutal police state for much longer than September 2001. 9/11 only changed our privacy laws essentially, otherwise the police brutality has remained unchanged. Look at the 1960s civil rights protests, or the periods of martial law, or the prohibition police raids in the 1920s. The US has virtually always been a police state since formal police departments were founded. Sadly though, much of the world is only now realizing our police issues. This is only due to a change in media coverage of it, but it has always been there.

Eulenberg

The ߎߣߌߐߣ ߐߝ ߝߍߘߍߙߊߕߌߐߣߛ of Hvalfyurden wrote:Sorry about my double messages, I know they can be bothersome. But I would also like to point out, the US has been an incredibly brutal police state for much longer than September 2001. 9/11 only changed our privacy laws essentially, otherwise the police brutality has remained unchanged. Look at the 1960s civil rights protests, or the periods of martial law, or the prohibition police raids in the 1920s. The US has virtually always been a police state since formal police departments were founded. Sadly though, much of the world is only now realizing our police issues. This is only due to a change in media coverage of it, but it has always been there.

Well, yes. All capitalist states are police states since they have a monopoly on violence to protect, but what I meant was that it got organized - Germany also always had police brutality in that extent, what changed in the 70s was that the federal police got more authority over the state police forces, the whole infrastructure got centralized and privacy laws were restricted. So, they switched from regular everyday oppression (as violent as that can be) to full 1984.

Hvalfyurden

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