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The South Pacific RMB

WA Delegate: The Swiftly Tilting Land of Tsunamy (elected )

Board Activity History Admin Rank

Most Nations: 3rd Most World Assembly Endorsements: 61st
World Factbook Entry

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Welcome The South Pacific! We are the oldest and most welcoming democracy in NationStates :)
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Embassies: The North Pacific, Europeia, Spiritus, the Rejected Realms, Lazarus, The East Pacific, the West Pacific, South Pacific Regional Games, Lone Wolves United, Kennan, Albion, NationStates, South Pacific Ejection Contest, Equilism, the Pacific, Gay, and 7 others.Warzone Africa, Versailles Isle, Warzone Australia, Axis Pact, Osiris, Knowhere, and 10000 Islands.

Construction of embassies with Forest has commenced. Completion expected .

Tags: Founderless, LGBT, Regional Government, Democratic, Feeder, Gargantuan, Offsite Forums, Casual, and Featured.

Regional Power: Extremely High

The South Pacific contains 8,236 nations, the 3rd most in the world.

Today's World Census Report

The Most Avoided in the South Pacific

Nations ranked highly are considered by many to be the most inhospitable, charmless, and ghastly places to spend a vacation, or, indeed, any time at all.

As a region, the South Pacific is ranked 7,318th in the world for Most Avoided.

NationWA CategoryMotto
11.The Federal Republic of ArgentinaxFather Knows Best State“Vivos?!”
12.The Holy Filesharing Empire of CeidtopiaBenevolent Dictatorship“No work no worries.”
13.The Incorporated Entity of Harmonious PaperclipsIron Fist Consumerists“Insufficient experience to get experience”
14.The Desert Hellhole of TremulistanCorporate Police State“Faith sets you free”
15.The Confederacy of TyflugianCapitalist Paradise“Deal with it”
16.The Incorporated States of LaedingCapitalist Paradise“Heaven helps those who helps themselves”
17.The Theocracy of The Lunaris ImperiumIron Fist Consumerists“Pray we do not take you alive”
18.The Armed Republic of Chernaya PolanaCorporate Bordello“Semper Fidelis”
19.The Holy Empire of StrataraInoffensive Centrist Democracy“SPQS”
20.The Democratic States of KrampustownAnarchy“Punish the naughty children!”
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The South Pacific Regional Message Board

The United Socialist States of New Democratic Spain wrote:Blue was considered protective, but only for the "brave, strong, fearless boys that were going to grow up as real men and fight battles while the weak and delicate women stayed at house with the childrens", don't make me laugh, please


That sentence is full of misanthropy. Women were expected to be strong, but in different ways. Actually weak women had no value to anyone, not even kings. Women were protected because they literally held the future of the nation. Only about half of all humans have the theoretical capacity to manufacture more humans.

The Community of Unplannedland wrote:You might wanna re-try that sentence.


I will try once more.

*ahem*

Again, how are they not the same thing?

The Most Glorious Republic of Hydrian Saratstania wrote:I will try once more.
*ahem*
Again, how are they not the same thing?

Are you honestly asking me how staying at home and doing the housework and going to work are not the same thing? Or did I misunderstand something?

The Community of Unplannedland wrote:Are you honestly asking me how staying at home and doing the housework and going to work are not the same thing? Or did I misunderstand something?


That is correct. Although it it often denigrated, "Staying at home and doing the housework" can be very difficult. Especially if there are children at home. With children, "simple housework" is more of a prolonged battle between opponents with deeply entrenched viewpoints, such as the conversation that's been going on for the last however long.

The Most Glorious Republic of Hydrian Saratstania wrote:That is correct. Although it it often denigrated, "Staying at home and doing the housework" can be very difficult. Especially if there are children at home. With children, "simple housework" is more of a prolonged battle between opponents with deeply entrenched viewpoints, such as the conversation that's been going on for the last however long.

One involves getting paid, the other doesn't...
You don't get many opportunities in life if you stay at home doing housework...

Did anyone try to play down the importance or difficulty of doing housework? No. Did anyone try to claim that housework isn't "work"? No. I don't see your point...

New Democratic Spain

The Most Glorious Republic of Hydrian Saratstania wrote:That sentence is full of misanthropy. Women were expected to be strong, but in different ways. Actually weak women had no value to anyone, not even kings. Women were protected because they literally held the future of the nation. Only about half of all humans have the theoretical capacity to manufacture more humans.

Oh shut, I'm sorry, I haven't noticed, how could I've been so blind?, I know then why they did let them, the women, participate in politics, or why the texts of that time were so benevolent with the image of the woman, or why practically all the gods of that moment were directed to the house or the family, whereas practically all the goddesses were directed to the most "manly" things as battles or simmilar

Sure

The Community of Unplannedland wrote:One involves getting paid, the other doesn't...
You don't get many opportunities in life if you stay at home doing housework...
Did anyone try to play down the importance or difficulty of doing housework? No. Did anyone try to claim that housework isn't "work"? No. I don't see your point...


Are we counting only monetary payment, or are we including a sticky kiss at 3 in the morning from a little child who woke up a bit too early? Also, tell my mother, a stay at home mom, professional photographer, and stable hand, that there are few opportunities in her life.

The United Socialist States of New Democratic Spain wrote:Oh shut, I'm sorry, I haven't noticed, how could I've been so blind?, I know then why they did let them, the women, participate in politics, or why the texts of that time were so benevolent with the image of the woman, or why practically all the gods of that moment were directed to the house or the family, whereas practically all the goddesses were directed to the most "manly" things as battles or simmilar


I am not a master of detecting such things, but I do believe that contains an unnecessary amount of sarcasm. Also, women DID participate in politics, especially in Athens until some time after its founding. Is it so bad that women have different capabilities than men? Is it so bad that women aren't killed horribly in war for wearing an enemy uniform? Women can be more empathetic, more caring, and discretely assertive than men. Isn't that something the world could use a little more of?

Women are different from men. That doesn't make them any better or worse. They have different talents. They're wired differently.

At any rate, I have a statics exam to go take. I thank you and The Community of Unplannedland for the discussion. It has been engaging.

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The Most Glorious Republic of Hydrian Saratstania wrote:Are we counting only monetary payment, or are we including a sticky kiss at 3 in the morning from a little child who woke up a bit too early? Also, tell my mother, a stay at home mom, professional photographer, and stable hand, that there are few opportunities in her life.

I don't understand what the heck you're trying to argue here. Are you implying that getting a kiss from your child is adequate compensation for not being able to get paid for your work and to have equal opportunites to men?

Listen, I don't have a problem with women being stay-at-home mums or stay-at-home generally if that's what they wanna do. The point is that they have the choice. In the past there wasn't that choice. That's what we're saying. We're saying that their gender dictated that they should stay at home and not try to purse a career, even if that what they wanted to do.

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