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Well it is true that Venezuela is not a socialist state.It started whith Chavez's Democratic Socialist government(Socialism of the 21st Century) mixed with "Bolivarianism"(i don't know what were Bolivar's views) coming to Maduro's Social Democratic state-planned economy.
Socialism of the XXI means doesn't have to do with marxism, it is a very revisionist 'version' of marxism, it has more to do with the views of the original social-democracy (read the book if you don't trust me). Bourgeois press doesn't like everything that is an obstacle to its own aims, and not liking the USA is enough (example: Iran, an anti-western country which is reactionary).
I agree that every kind of external and imperialist intervention must be stopped, but you can't call socialist to every government that nationalises key sectors, that confusion is more likely to come from the mouth of a right-winger, but ok.
Meanwhile, Trotsky is still seen as revisionist while Venezuela is supported by m-ls. Well done.
US interference in Latin America is responsible for most of the problems in Venezuela and all of Latin America. The US has engineered, financed, and/or directly carried out countless acts of terrorism as its official policy.
Venezuela has many more socialist qualities than a nationalized economy.
"The communal councils are grassroots bodies that bring together existing community organisations that have sprung up in Venezuela’s poor neighbourhoods around issues such as access to health, education, water and electricity.
The councils encompass 200-400 families in urban areas and 20-50 families in rural areas. Decisions on which problems to prioritize and how to tackle them are made in citizen assemblies open to the entire community."
About Trotsky, he worked awfully hard to bring down Soviet revolutionary advances, but that's a discussion for another day, the left can no longer afford to be so sectarian and stupid in the face of world capitalism and intolerable class contradictions.
There's nothing that denotes idiocy quite like arguing over Trotsky/Stalin while Trump appoints the most reactionary business owners to government in the US, while refugee kids lay dead on shores and while the Earth topples on irreversible environmental devastation - I think we have bigger issues to deal with
Any leftist who stands against the capitalist status quo is a comrade of mine, Trot or not - but when will the rest of the left grow up and realize this? Only left unity will change the course of history - not more kids arguing Trot/Stalin arguments online.
Ok, then, it is more socialist than what I tought. However, current situation is far from that 'revolutionary program'.
I can agree on what you say about left unity, but not every sector of the left has the same way of reaching its aims, and sometimes, the aims are different. You can't avoid theoretical arguments, and Trot/Stalin arguments are part of that (and I really hate that one). How do you say we are going to cope with those bigger problems you are talking about? Collaborating with american liberals? That ends in reform, in the best situation. Refugee kids lay dead on shores, as in every war, sadly, and there's nothing revolutionary on defending Syria from 'imperialist' interference. Irreversible environmental devastation, yes, caused by the current mode of production, and you can't stop the destructive nature of capitalism through reform. Domination of nature is a more rooted idea in society than what it seems, and it can't be stopped putting a few environmental laws.
For every revolutionary movement a bit of consensus must be reached, and repeating 'left unity' while eluding theoretical debate is useless, because it can end on having a movement full of reformists and people unable to bring a revolutionary and substantial change.
The problem of the left nowadays is not only lack of unity, it is lack of a clear theoretical framework, apart from the most common postmodernist one (which is clearly wrong).
How do I increase my population. I want to do actions that require a much higher population than I have