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Region Tags

We're all familiar with the region tags, but familiarity isn't always the same as understanding.

I'm not the first person to get bemused by regions tags. Game Player sounds like a good tag for Ludo fans, but NS has it's own definition. The Gameplay forum is described as "Talk about regional management and politics, raider/defender gameplay, and other game-related matters".

And what is F7er? Is it very different to FT:STL? It turns out that F7 is a forum. And FT:STL? Well, read on to get the big reveal.

About six months back, someone finally told me what FT:STL meant. And we agreed that it would be good to have an explanation of all the tags. Then, I finally saw the original thread about region tags, and gained some additional insight. So this is my attempt at an explanation of tags. You're welcome to suggest improvements.

Region tags were introduced to NS by SalusaSecondus on 10 May 2011. The 50 or so tags marked below as "suggested by" SalusaSecondus are ones I believe were in the original release. The original forum post has been edited a number of times (most recently in 2015), so it's hard to be sure which tags were on the original list. I've included links to evidence the dates when the various tags were suggested. Dates without links are assumptions.

Tags fall into two main groups - system tags, and optional tags. System tags are Game created, and cannot be removed. Optional tags can be added or removed by a regional officer with Appearance powers. Within these groups, I've split the tags into different categories. I made these categories up myself, so don't think of them as definitive. And it could be easily argued that some tags are mis-categorised.

Apologies to those nations receiving unwanted pings.


System Tags

Regions with Special Rules

Tag

Interpretation

Suggested by

Suggested Date

Added On

Feeder

Game created regions where new nations start out.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Sinker

Game created regions where CTEd nations refound,
plus The Rejected Realms.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Warzone

Game created regions which cannot be passworded,
where bans are temporary, and ejections cost the
delegate no influence.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Class

Class regions are created by educators, and are
isolated from the rest of the game.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Regions with Security Council Resolutions

Tag

Interpretation

Suggested by

Suggested Date

Added On

Commended

Regions with a Security Council Commendation

Swkoll

11 May 2011

8 Jun 2014

Condemned

Regions with a Security Council Condemnation

Swkoll

11 May 2011

8 Jun 2014

Liberated

Regions with a Security Council Liberation. Sometimes
refered to as player-created Warzones, as delegates
can't impose passwords.

Named after spartz

23 Jul 2011

8 Jun 2014

Although these tags were requested very early on, it was three years before they were added. District XIV revived the idea on 29 May 2014. Ballotonia added code to automate the tagging.

Size (Every region has one of these)

Tag

Interpretation

Suggested by

Suggested Date

Added On

Minuscule

Region has 1 to 5 nations.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Small

Region has 6 to 10 nations.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Medium

Region has 11 to 50 nations.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Large

Region has 51 to 100 nations.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Enormous

Region has 101 to 500 nations.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Gargantuan

Region has more than 500 nations.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Other Automated Tags

Tag

Interpretation

Suggested by

Suggested Date

Added On

Featured

Regions 'featured' on or after 8th May 2011

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Founderless

Regions with no founder (includes all GCRs, certain
UCRs created before founders were included in the
game, and UCRs whose founder has CTEd.)

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

New

Regions created in the last 7 days

Ballotonia

19 Nov 2012 *

19 Nov 2012

Password

Regions that require a password to enter.

New south hell

11 May 2011 **

19 Nov 2012

* Age based tags were originally requested on 11 May 2011. Swkoll requested an 'old' tag, and Neoplanta requested a 'year of founding'. 'New' seems to have been a spontaneous decision by Ballotonia in 2012 though.
** New south hell's original suggestion had the name as "gated". A couple nations came back to this idea a year later. Syrakhstan, on 20 Jun 2012, and General halcones on 13 Sep 2012. Ballotonia added the tag on 19 Nov 2012.


Optional Tags

Interests

Tag

Interpretation

Suggested by

Suggested Date

Added On

Anime

Animated regions, but filled with two dimensional
characters. ;)

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

F7er

Communities that participate in the Forum 7 forum.

Unibot ii

11 May 2011

17 May 2011*

Fandom

New south hell said it best: "Fandom. There's a
difference between LoTR role playing, for which Fantasy
Tech is a good tag, and a region for LoTR fans."

New south hell

11 May 2011

12 May 2011

Game Player

Focused on regional management and politics, and / or
the raiding and defending game. Oddly, despite the
name, the term 'gameplay' isn't intended to include
F7ers, Issues Players, Sports, or Video Games.
There are a number of Gameplay specific tags.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Generalite

Communities that participate in the General forum.

Unibot ii

11 May 2011

11 May 2011

Issues Player

"Some regions have nations answer their issues almost
down to an exact size science to top rankings/
trophies/get a very unique type of nation."

Warzone Codger

10 May 2011**

9 Mar 2016

LGBT

Concieved for LBGT communities, this tag is also used
for LGBT friendly communities.

Merric

13 May 2011***

26 Jul 2015

Non-English

For clever people, who can handle more than one language.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Offsite Chat

Read "has Discord server".

Lenlyvit

6 Jul 2017

12 Jul 2017

Offsite Forums

Has an offsite forum.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

P2TM

Communities that participate in the Portal to the
Multiverse
forum.

Nightkill the emperor

7 Dec 2012****

20 Dec 2013

Parody

Spoof themed regions.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Religious

Religeous community

New south hell

11 May 2011

11 May 2011

Role Player

A role-player community. There are a number of
role-play specific tags too.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Social

A place to chat.

Gauntleted fist

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Surreal

Do we really need a tag to find a surreal region
in a place where nations are transported around by
black helicopters, and the only natural resources
are virtual trading cards?

Gell-Mannhattan

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Video Game

People play other games?

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

* Probably added before 17 May, but that's when the first evidence of it shows up.
**Although "Issues Player" was requested on day 1, Codger had to 'bump' the suggestion five years later before it was introduced.
*** Despite there being some discussion of "LGBT" early on, it wasn't introduced until 2015, when raised in a separate thread by Luxdonia. After the 2016 Orlando massacre, many regions added the LGBT tag as a show of solidarity, so much so that there was concern that the original purpose of the tag was being diluted.
**** "P2TM" was originally refused (despite there being other forum-specific tags). It became a thing after Esternial started pushing for in on 31 Oct 2013.

Attitude

Tag

Interpretation

Suggested by

Suggested Date

Added On

Casual

New south hell

11 May 2011

11 May 2011

Serious

Gauntleted fist

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Silly

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Snarky

Ever wondered how this became a tag? I don't think
it was ever meant to be. It comes from
Gell-Mannhattan's request: 'May I
respectfully suggest "surreal" and "snarky" and
"thinks tags are silly."' (my emphasis).

Gell-Mannhattan

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

World Assembly

Tag

Interpretation

Suggested by

Suggested Date

Added On

Anti-General Assembly

Lady morgause

16 Sep 2012

16 Sep 2012

Anti-Security Council

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Anti-World Assembly

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

General Assembly

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Security Council

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

World Assembly

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

The last three here could easily be categorised as 'Interests'. However, it would have left the other three in-game political stances in a weird category of their own.

Political (could be either in-game or OOC political stances)

Tag

Interpretation

Suggested by

Suggested Date

Added On

Anarchist

Herrebrugh

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Anti-Capitalist

Celdonia

11 May 2011

9 May 2013

Anti-Communist

Christian Democrats

22 May 2011

9 Sep 2012

Anti-Fascist

Herrebrugh

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Capitalist

Mariatania

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Communist

Mariatania

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Conservative

Mariatania

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Democratic

Kshrlmnt

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Eco-Friendly

Errinundera

10 May 2011

25 Feb 2012

Egalitarian

The 2013 request died quickly. This tag was only
added as an unintended spin-off from Maupof's 2017
Feminist tag request
.

The icy blackness of space

14 Oct 2013

28 Jul 2017

Fascist

Selegnia

11 May 2011

11 May 2011

Feminist

Although requested on four previous occassions, it
was Maupof's 2017
request
that got this one implemented.

Zephyrinia

20 Sep 2012

30 Jul 2017

Free Trade

Denecaep

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

International Federalist

"It's the opposite of National Sovereignty.
Basically, it's for nations/regions who feel that
the WA exists to serve as a One World Government
type"

Unibot ii

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Isolationist

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

0 Jan 1900

Liberal

Mariatania

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Libertarian

Britarvia

11 May 2011

25 Sep 2011

Monarchist

Kshrlmnt

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

National Sovereigntist

"National sovereignty is the belief that all nations
should be allowed to make whatever laws they want
(i.e. legalizing/banning gay marriage) without
having to submit to pressure from the international
community, so a national sovereigntist region would
be one that allows the nations to legaslaite however
they want."

Unibot ii

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Pacifist

Antarctic isles

13 May 2011

21 Nov 2011

Patriarchal

Read "Misogynists". Tellingly, more than 1 in 3
regions with this tag are also tagged "Fascist".

Cruciland

28 Jul 2017

30 Jul 2017

Socialist

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Theocratic

Leviathan romefeller

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Totalitarian

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Gameplay

Tag

Interpretation

Suggested by

Suggested Date

Added On

Defender

Defender home regions and jump points. Or, more
likely, defender sympathisers.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Imperialist

One of an empire of connected regions.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Independent

Flexible term. Could be military gameplayers,
either raiding or defending as suits them. Or maybe
meaning "not part of an Empire". Or something else
entirely.

Kalibarr

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Invader

Raider home regions, jump points, and (probably
more numerous) regions that they've raided. And
wanna-be raiders.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Jump Point

Used by raiders and defenders in the raiding /
defending game. Mostly filled with puppets. Kind
of like Puppet Storage, but with a higher turnover
of residents.

Lenlyvit

19 Dec 2017

19 Dec 2017

Mercenary

WA endorsements for hire. Though I don't know if
they actually deliver. Site rules prevent payment
of anything of real world value.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Neutral

Neither raider nor defender. The term is easily
applied to politics too, so could well be
miscategorised.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Puppet Storage

Region for storing puppet nations. Despite a high
number of nations, they're often controlled by one
player, so don't expect a community.

Kshrlmnt

10 May 2011*

12 Feb 2012

Recruiter Friendly

You are allowed to recruit for your own region on
the RMBs of these regions, without the Mods getting
angry at you. Despite having this tag, the residents
may still get angry with you, and possibly suppress
your post or ban you (I know, right?). Don't expect
this to be an effective way of getting recruits
anyway.

Makiir

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Regional Government

Originally Makiir wanted a tag for "Currently
looking for nations to fill government positions
in our region". This isn't really the same thing.
Presumably this tag could apply to any region that
isn't solely controlled by the founder.

Makiir

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

* Kshrlmnt originally proposed "Puppet dumps and/or graveyards?", though this was rejected by SalusaSecondus: "I don't like encouraging graveyards or puppet dumps, so I don't think I'll create those tags". It was finally brought in, apparently independently, by Sedgistan on 12/2/12.

Roleplay

Tag

Interpretation

Suggested by

Suggested Date

Added On

Cyberpunk

Leviathan romefeller

24 Jun 2011

21 Nov 2011

FT: FTL

Future Tech: Faster Than Light

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

FT: FTLi

Future Tech: Faster-Than-Light inhibitors
- able to disrupt FTL travel.

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

FT: STL

Future Tech: Slower Than Light

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Fantasy Tech

New south hell

11 May 2011

11 May 2011(?)

Future Tech

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Human-Only

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Industrial

This was intoduced as a counter-balance
to "Eco-Friendly"

Santa joanna

14 Feb 2012

25 Feb 2012

Magical

Rastynhaven

20 Jun 2011

21 Nov 2011

Map

Region has a map

Makiir

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Modern Tech

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Multi-Species

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Outer Space

SalusaSecondus

21 Nov 2011

21 Nov 2011

Past Tech

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Post Apocalyptic

The great destruction

14 Sep 2012

15 Sep 2012

Post-Modern Tech

SalusaSecondus

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Sports

Unibot ii

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

Steampunk

Leviathan romefeller

24 Jun 2011

21 Nov 2011


Ex-Tags

Some tags have since been removed.

Compass Tags

Compass tags must have been added by SalusaSecondus as part of the original release.

No Campaigning Tags

No Campaigning tags must have been added by SalusaSecondus as part of the original release.

Wiki Tags

Wiki tags were added as a result of requests.

Tag

Interpretation

Suggested by

Suggested Date

Added On

NSwiki

Makiir

10 May 2011

10 May 2011

IIWiki

Waspeaters

29 Apr 2012

22 Nov 2012

It's not clear when the WikiStates tag was added, but Cromarty suggested it's removal on 20 Nov 2012. It stayed though.


The NSWiki tag must have reappeared very quickly though:
The NSWiki tag has since gone, but I don't know when it was removed.


Discussions

In the early days, most tag suggestions were rapidly added if the moderators saw the value in them. Of course, many suggestions were never implemented. And then there were a few cases where it took time to convince moderators of the merits.

Eco-Friendly

The same day tags were implemented, 10 May 2011, Errinundera requested:
"Forest is an oldish region whose emphasis is environmental. Any chance of a tag along the lines of environmental, or eco-friendly, or green...?"

SalusaSecondus responded:
"If you can find me a few other regions this would apply to, then yes."

Herrebrugh found some:
"Well, There's Green Planet and Futaba Aoi."
"And also Eco Sense and Ecotopia."

SalusaSecondus said:
"I'll get another mod to look into this one."

Independently, a day later, Defero populus asked:
"How about [...] Eco-Friendly"

Swkoll started maintaining a list of suggested tags. Amongst those that Aglrinia disagreed with:
"12. Eco-Friendly :eyebrow: really? You'd be more eco friendly by getting off the computer and not spending energy arguing for another region tag."

Hard line commies added some applicable regions:
"Yes, I found a few regions a tag like that might apply to: Hippiedom, Ecotopia, Forest and Green Federation come readily to mind. ..
Also, I prefer the term "Environmentalist" or "Green" to "Eco-friendly", a term I really dislike, because I don't think it means the same thing."

On the 19th, Errinundera revisits the topic.
"Anything new on an eco-friendly tag? It was to be considered by moderators, I believe."

Makiir:
"Check the Tag Cloud"

Errinundera:
"I already had. There's nothing there. I would like to know if the suggestion has been given consideration yet. And if the decision is not to have it, why not?"

All goes quiet for several months. On 14 Feb 2012, Santa joanna asks:
"What about adding the eco-friendly tag? There is quite a few regions which concentrate mostly on environment. You could eventually add industrial on the other side too."

Over the next week, five more people post their support.

Annoyed at the lack of moderator response, Santa joanna posts:
"Bump. So nice to be ignored."

Sedgistan, Feb 23, 2012
"We don't address every suggestion made. If you want a response, it helps to explain why a tag would be useful, and why it matters to have a tag for it, rather than just have people mention it in the WFE."

Santa joanna, Feb 24, 2012
"There is a plenty of nations whose main goal is to protect the environment. I thought that the reason of adding eco-friendly tag is obvious - it would help them to find regions of like-minded individuals much more easily."

Welsh cowboy, who had earlier supported the proposal, suddenly changes their tune:
"To me, this isn't needed:
1. I don't know if there's many regions who fit the description
2. If there are, they certainly aren't a vast number
3. Not all eco-friendly nations have to be in an Eco-friendly region
If every single region or pair of region's themes were put in the tag cloud, there would be such a large cloud no one could use it. What if I set up a Sesame Street region? There shouldn't be a cartoon tag just for that.
If a region wants to be Eco-friendly, in my opinion, they should put it on their WFE."

Luna Amore quips:
"Come on, be serious. Sesame Street would obviously be filed under Puppet Storage. :p"

Santa joanna defends the suggestion:
"But there ARE tags like Theocratic, Video Games, Fantasy... These are also quite a niche, but they're really useful, because they give certain groups of nations an opportunity to find specific regions which couldn't be found using any other existing tag.
There's no need to create cartoon tag, Sesame Street could be easily found under "Silly".
But there's an utter lack of tags which are signs of environmental concern. And I assure you, that there's a plenty of regions which would love to use such tag, here's just a few largest examples:
- Forest
- Hippiedom
- Groland
- Deep Blue Planet
- Eladen
- Emeraldise
- Alternative Left
- Green Planet
- The Hill
- Ecotopia
- Ocean
Of course, not every eco-friendly nation wants to be in such region, but looking at these examples, much of them certainly do."

Ransium adds:
"I guess being from the same region as Santa Joanna it makes sense that our interests are aligned, but I must say I'm surprised at those of you who say that they just can't see a use of an "ecofriendly" tag. I used to spend a long time using probable words like "eco" in the region finder looking for regions with similar environmental goals. And my feeling is the list of regions which would use an "ecofriendly" tag is significantly larger than what Santa Joanna listed. I mean when we have a tag as niche as "steampunk" I find it odd that people would think "ecofriendly" would be too niche (btw steampunk is awesome, I don't mean to criticize steampunk). And yes of course if your an ecofriendly nation you don't have to live in ecofriendly region, but it might be nice for ecofriendly nations to at least know 1) there are ecofriendly regions out there and 2) What there options are as far ecofriendly regions."

Bears armed, Feb 25, 2012
"I also talk to the trees support the idea of an 'Eco-friendly' tag.
^_^"

Flibbleites, Feb 25, 2012
"All right, fine, Eco-friendly and Industrial tags created. Happy now? >:(
:p"

Ransium, Feb 26, 2012
"But eco-friendly is so vague! There needs to be a "sustainability" tag which designates regions that believe resources should be used sustainably. A "earth first" tag which designates regions where the needs of the environment come before the needs of humans. A "pragmatic environmentalist" tag where the needs of the environment are considered but...
No, I'm kidding! :p Thanks for the eco-friendly tag!"

Feminist

Unsucessful requests were raised on four separate occasions for this tag:
Zephyrinia, 20 Sep 2012
Progavia, 18 Feb 2013
Gynetopia, 14 May 2013
The fertility harvest, 4 Mar 2014

It wasn't until 2017 that the tag was implemented, thanks to Maupof's efforts. Maupof had started a separate thread for the purpose of discussion on 28 July 2017.

"While re-organising our region we noticed that in the regional tag cloud there is no option to choose the tag "feminist" for your region.
We are an anarchist region (the federation of anarchist communes) and it was mentioned on our RMB that the tag "anarchist" presumes "feminist", a point I, and others, don't think rings true, and it also excludes regions who aren't anarchist and wish to be considered feminist.
Feminism is not, and should not, be the preserve of the left. It is not a niche interest or obscure political ethic. It transcends the minor and petty differences of varying philosophical and moral ideals, just as anti-fascism, anti-racism and gay liberation does. If the regional tags of "anti-fascist" and "LGBT" are available to use as regional tags shouldn't it follow that "feminist" should also be available? Especially when you consider such inane tags as "anime", "snarky" and "steampunk" are options.
I have posted on the RMB's of NSLeft associates and had overwhelming positive responses, but NSLeft is a small part of the wider NS community.
I have already asked mods how this could be achieved and the answer was that the actual process is simple, it is problems with tag-spamming and word cloud size, along with the ideas of keeping the regional tags to government types, tools, and limited RPs.
I am posting this to see if there is any will among us to have "feminist" added to the regional tag cloud, and whether there is enough support to begin a petition or campaign to change things."

Cruciland replied:
"I believe we already have an "Egalitarian" regional tag. "Matriarchal" and "Patriarchal" could be added, depending on the type of narrative, but otherwise I find "Feminist" to be out-of-place. It tends to work better for describing policies than regional/governmental types."

Moderator Reploid Productions responded:
"Actually, I'm not seeing an "Egalitarian", but that would be a good one to add to cover that stuff.
EDIT: There, "Egalitarian" is in the list."

Shefkland asks:
"I fully support the inclusion of a feminist tag.
Also, not to sound rude, but why does there need to be a discussion about including a feminist tag but the egalitarian tag got added immediately? Just curious"

Luna Amore challenges:
"What does a Feminist tag do that Egalitarian one doesn't?"

This gets several responses, and I've extracted only certain highlights.

Caelapes replies angrily:
"accurately describe the political stance of a region, like the folks who have requested this tag and instead got sniped by someone else posting an unrelated tag suggestion in this thread?"

Guy:
"'Egalitarianism' has been used far more frequently by anti-feminists than feminists recently. Indeed, it has attained status as an 'alternative' to feminism, particularly by MRAs"

Maupof:
"No nazi would call themselves an egalitarian but many would consider themselves feminist to a degree
My point being that "feminism" as a social construct has a fluid and relativistic definition. It is not as simplistic as you try to make it seem. It reaches parts of political, social and ethical philosophy that egalitarianism doesn't while still retaining a more precise impression of it's overall meaning.
All the liberalist sjw regions will pick "egalitarian" because virtue signalling is what they do. But few would use "feminist" because of their aversion to things like positive discrimination, housework and public breast feeding, also because they believe feminism is synonymous with matriarchy."

Reploid Productions announces the addition of two new tags.
"The biggest obstacle was really, "Well, if we add X, then Y is going to start shrieking for a tag, too!" After a rather intense session of chair-throwing debate in the sekrit lair, we came to the conclusion that "Feminist" and "Patriarchal" cover the bases sufficiently."

Reponding to Free Republics' earlier post ("If a "feminist" tag is added, then "anti-feminist" should be added as well for the sake of ideological balance."), Freethinkinganarchists residingwherever says:
"Sure, there are lots of other tags denoting evil. Whoever uses it would be right at home, and it would be easier to know where they stand."

Oddly enough, at the time of writing, of the 122 regions tagged Patriarchal, 44 (more than 1 in 3) are also tagged Fascist.

The King of All Wild Things

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