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The Internationale contains 275 nations, the 39th most in the world.

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1.The Free Republic of New SloveniakiaDemocratic Socialists“Unite, Anti-Stalin Leftists, for the Common Good!”
2.The Scandinavian Republic of Old EuphoriastanDemocratic Socialists“The Mind of God and the Hands of Men”
3.The United Socialist States of Sowjet UnionWA MemberLiberal Democratic Socialists“Proletarians of all countries unite”
4.The Democratic States of IjerickstanNew York Times Democracy“Lets build a better world together!”
5.The Confederacy of Scandinavian Socialist RepublicsLiberal Democratic Socialists“Scandinavia is our pride”
6.The Armed People's Republic of North EugeniaWA MemberCorrupt Dictatorship“Powerful And Prosperous”
7.The Anarchic State of of TvebenWA MemberLiberal Democratic Socialists“My name is Tveben, I find resources.”
8.The International Revolutionary of ProleskyLeft-wing Utopia“Permanent Revolution!”
9.The Scurrilous Reprobacy of Concerned CitizensLeft-wing Utopia“In all our decadence people die”
10.The Republic of BelcastelLeft-wing Utopia“Libertat, Egalitat, Solidaritat”
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True. I didn't mean to offend people. I'm not criticizing Muslims as a whole, but their right-wing nationalist governments (i.e. the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire).

The People's Republic of Kampouchea wrote:The Ottoman Empire? That's strange, considering it was ruled by Muslims.


It's almost like the characterization of Muslims as inherently right-wing nationalist and religious-fundamentalist both currently and historically is nothing more than a propaganda campaign meant to facilitate capitalist exploitation of North African and Middle Eastern countries?!

The truth of course is that Muslims are just like everyone else: they can be liberals, fundamentalists, anarchists, fascists, or any other political flavor.

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The Exclave of Lemurian Outpost wrote:Actually, the USSR wasn't the first. I believe Poland never criminalised it, and revolutionary France decriminalised it in the late 18th century. A number of other countries did later in the 1800s including Latin American countries, the Kingdom of Bavaria and the Ottoman empire!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_by_country_or_territory#LGBT-related_laws_by_country_or_territory

Wow, I had no idea. I'm surprised I haven't heard of revolutionary France doing that either. Thank you for correcting me, it's always good to learn more about these struggles!

The Dominion of Shadow Project wrote:It's France

I'd like to apologize then for stating that Western leftists were largely free of homophobia as this definitely isn't true judging by your experience. It was a chauvinistic position for me to have had either way that was clouded by my positive personal experience with leftist groups in respect to LGBT issues.

I made yet another factbook a little while ago: nation=kampouchea/detail=factbook/id=409487

The Rogue Nation of United Gender Terrorists wrote:[...] in fascism, the leader and the ideology the leader represents fully coincide, they are one and the same; while in the case of early Soviet socialism, the leader is merely the empirical representative of a greater abstract ideal (communism).

If I may interject here, it may have not been your intention or I may be misreading you, but the conceptualization of communism as simply an ideal or goal is unfortunate and something I take issue with. In the words of Marx, from his work The German Ideology (https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/ch01a.htm), "[c]ommunism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things."

The Proletarian Dictatorship of Zulanka wrote:If I may interject here, it may have not been your intention or I may be misreading you, but the conceptualization of communism as simply an ideal or goal is unfortunate and something I take issue with. In the words of Marx, from his work The German Ideology (https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/ch01a.htm), "[c]ommunism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality [will] have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things."


Another way to phrase that is 'We call communism the real movement in service of the goal (ideal) to abolish the present state of things.'

The logic of the ideal and the pursuit of it is operative in Marxist ideology (theory and practice); however, there is a crucial difference between the classical notion of a principle (ideal) and the Marxist one. In classical politics, principles are "ready-made"; they are already-existing notions to be used, and politics is a matter of choosing which to follow.

Marx, by contrast, continues in the vein of the Kantian revolution. According to Kant, for a priori structural reasons, the abstract principle cannot predate a subject's pursuit of it - the subject is part of the structure of reason itself (and thus also any political principle)*. This is precisely what Marx is aiming at: formulating a principle to adhere to, an ideal to be pursued until it is realized is already an ideological operation at the level of the structural a priori.

Marx is emphasizing the primacy of what Kant calls the 'logic of illusion' (or the 'dialectic') over the 'logic of truth' (or the 'analytic'). The analytic is secondary: before we can get to the question of whether something is "true" or "false", what Kant calls the negative proof of non-contradiction must first be established - the distinction between "true" and "false" can be rephrased as "it is true that [X] is true vs. it is true that [X] is false". In other words, the a priori background of the possibility of truth must be established in the dialectic of illusion - whether something is possible or impossible - before the analytic of truth can then establish truth or falsehood.

Thus, what Marx and Engels wrote in The German Ideology can also be read as, "communism pertains to the level of the formal a priori notional structure; hence, it is first and foremost the structuring principle of an act (of what Kant would call practical Reason)."

*This was later developed by Hegel to solve the obvious theoretical problem: what about things like the curvature of space and laws of physics in general - are these laws not completely independent of subjectivity? Hegel's is no: which is precisely why it is necessary to understand things 'not only as Substance, but also as Subject'.

(The structure of my arguments is reading Marx and Engels through the lens of Alenka Zupancic's reading of Kant in her book Ethics of the Real.)

The Rogue Nation of United Gender Terrorists wrote:The logic of the ideal and the pursuit of it is operative in Marxist ideology (theory and practice); however, there is a crucial difference between the classical notion of a principle (ideal) and the Marxist one. In classical politics, principles are "ready-made"; they are already-existing notions to be used, and politics is a matter of choosing which to follow.

Marx, by contrast, continues in the vein of the Kantian revolution. According to Kant, for a priori structural reasons, the abstract principle cannot predate a subject's pursuit of it - the subject is part of the structure of reason itself (and thus also any political principle)*. This is precisely what Marx is aiming at: formulating a principle to adhere to, an ideal to be pursued until it is realized is already an ideological operation at the level of the structural a priori.

OK, I get where you're coming from now. The usage of "ideal" is much different than how I was thinking in this context. Thank you for clarifying this for me.

Previously I understood that quote as just a sharp dismissal of idealism and utopianism. I read it as attacking both liberal idealists as well as socialists who elevate the prospect of communism to some distant, far off utopia to be worked at but never truly achieved.

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One can only hope that he doesn't come back. We don't need comrades like this. After TCB, and now this, I personally believe he's earned himself a ban.

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