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Sidera noctis

Allentyr wrote:I went with orca ;_;

http://s13.postimg.org/isct0hnvr/Equinox_Naval_Co_Orca_class.png

RELEASE THE KRACKEN!!!

7:54 AM - Spetsnaz GRU: orca implies your ship is fat as f*ck
7:54 AM - Endlogic: lol
7:58 AM - Spetsnaz GRU: f*cking name it SS Jewslayer for all i care

H8ers gonna h8

Allentyr wrote:7:54 AM - Spetsnaz GRU: orca implies your ship is fat as f*ck
7:54 AM - Endlogic: lol
7:58 AM - Spetsnaz GRU: f*cking name it SS Jewslayer for all i care

H8ers gonna h8

^ Don't take that the wrong way :P

what?

Hope everyone is doing well!

Forgive me if I misinterpretted the debate that was/is going on concerning the maps, but if you'll permit me a few proposals for going forward.

  • The mapmaker should set the basic technical rules for requesting being added to the map and edits made thereafter. Like the actual things—capitals, cities, etc—that get added, what they look like, how often the map gets updated, how you need to request edits, and so on... the technical crap.

  • There should be legislation defining rules that affect RP, like how a new nation starts on the map. (For example, should a new member to the region with 12.5 billion population immediately get a huge chunk of territory to represent that population, OR should everyone be allowed to start with a set size and then if they want to they RP expansion? Personally, I like a combo-rule whereby we'd allow a nation to start with small set amount of territory per billion in population and then ask them to RP expansion. A size about the size of Belgium is more than enough for upto a billion in a highly urban environment—think of a mega-mega-sized Singapore.)

  • Having a non-RP map serves little purpose and can be very confusing. I'd recommend that the maps always be "RP", but we must respect that some (many) players don't have time, energy, or desire to engage in warfare. A good compromise is to approach it with an RP solution—designate through RP "international law" that nations may renounce warfare and are officially pacifist nations. It would then be forbidden to engage these nations militarily. To respond to violations of this law, an international task force commanded by a war-player would take to defending the pacifist nation, sanctions can be applied to the violator (their GDP is declared 10% less, thus harming their nation, and so on). Another possible solution—terraform Sunalaya's moon (is it called Mun?) and allow pacifist nations to settle there. Warfare would be forbidden on Mun, but not Sunalaya proper. Mun could even be the regional capital, where every nation gets a small territory for peaceful purposes only, and Mun would also be the neutral seat of the United Sunalaya Assembly. Pacifist nations could have a military, but would not expand via warfare. Instead, maybe they can slowly expand into nearby unclaimed/NPC territory through peaceful RP to represent their population growth?

  • Are puppets allowed? If so, there should be strict rules for their incorporation. For example—allow only 1 puppet to be introduced each several months, allow only a percent of the puppet's stats to be counted, slowly increasing that percent over several months until the puppet is fully incorporated, and require the puppet to be developed (its own factbooks and info) and RP of the incorporation. I have Wicko and Urartega. It wouldn't be fair to snaller nations or large existing players, to just plop an extra 16 billion people on the map and instantly claim a hyper-power position in the RP. (As nice as that sounds.)

Athretvari wrote:Hope everyone is doing well!

Forgive me if I misinterpretted the debate that was/is going on concerning the maps, but if you'll permit me a few proposals for going forward.

  • The mapmaker should set the basic technical rules for requesting being added to the map and edits made thereafter. Like the actual things—capitals, cities, etc—that get added, what they look like, how often the map gets updated, how you need to request edits, and so on... the technical crap.

  • There should be legislation defining rules that affect RP, like how a new nation starts on the map. (For example, should a new member to the region with 12.5 billion population immediately get a huge chunk of territory to represent that population, OR should everyone be allowed to start with a set size and then if they want to they RP expansion? Personally, I like a combo-rule whereby we'd allow a nation to start with small set amount of territory per billion in population and then ask them to RP expansion. A size about the size of Belgium is more than enough for upto a billion in a highly urban environment—think of a mega-mega-sized Singapore.)

  • Having a non-RP map serves little purpose and can be very confusing. I'd recommend that the maps always be "RP", but we must respect that some (many) players don't have time, energy, or desire to engage in warfare. A good compromise is to approach it with an RP solution—designate through RP "international law" that nations may renounce warfare and are officially pacifist nations. It would then be forbidden to engage these nations militarily. To respond to violations of this law, an international task force commanded by a war-player would take to defending the pacifist nation, sanctions can be applied to the violator (their GDP is declared 10% less, thus harming their nation, and so on). Another possible solution—terraform Sunalaya's moon (is it called Mun?) and allow pacifist nations to settle there. Warfare would be forbidden on Mun, but not Sunalaya proper. Mun could even be the regional capital, where every nation gets a small territory for peaceful purposes only, and Mun would also be the neutral seat of the United Sunalaya Assembly. Pacifist nations could have a military, but would not expand via warfare. Instead, maybe they can slowly expand into nearby unclaimed/NPC territory through peaceful RP to represent their population growth?

  • Are puppets allowed? If so, there should be strict rules for their incorporation. For example—allow only 1 puppet to be introduced each several months, allow only a percent of the puppet's stats to be counted, slowly increasing that percent over several months until the puppet is fully incorporated, and require the puppet to be developed (its own factbooks and info) and RP of the incorporation. I have Wicko and Urartega. It wouldn't be fair to snaller nations or large existing players, to just plop an extra 16 billion people on the map and instantly claim a hyper-power position in the RP. (As nice as that sounds.)

Let me go over these
-yes I like that
-we go by rp populations. So even though i ha e an ns pop of 3.8 billion, i rp with a population of 56 million.this goes for many other people as well.
-well, being MT, we dont have amy method of terraforming...
- puppeta are allowed if they serve a purpose. I have 4 on the map. All are seperate from Rhodevus and have different roles and responsibilities. Rezua has oblaren. Aznazia and lind have other african countries. As long as they serve a purpose it is fine.

Rhodevus wrote:Let me go over these
-yes I like that
-we go by rp populations. So even though i ha e an ns pop of 3.8 billion, i rp with a population of 56 million.this goes for many other people as well.
-well, being MT, we dont have amy method of terraforming...
- puppeta are allowed if they serve a purpose. I have 4 on the map. All are seperate from Rhodevus and have different roles and responsibilities. Rezua has oblaren. Aznazia and lind have other african countries. As long as they serve a purpose it is fine.

What? No space UN? Damn

Rhodevus wrote:Let me go over these
-yes I like that
-we go by rp populations. So even though i ha e an ns pop of 3.8 billion, i rp with a population of 56 million.this goes for many other people as well.
-well, being MT, we dont have amy method of terraforming...
- puppeta are allowed if they serve a purpose. I have 4 on the map. All are seperate from Rhodevus and have different roles and responsibilities. Rezua has oblaren. Aznazia and lind have other african countries. As long as they serve a purpose it is fine.

Will it be the same map as our one now? or a complete different map? do the nations that already have territory get transferred? or would we have to completely start over?

I like the idea and concept of this. i really do. put the problem i see accruing is the Transfer or the Restarting of the the Territory from the map we have now, even the world.

To be honest, I'd like to know (as mapmaker) how this is done. And make up my decision from there.

Athretvari wrote:Hope everyone is doing well!

Forgive me if I misinterpretted the debate that was/is going on concerning the maps, but if you'll permit me a few proposals for going forward.

  • The mapmaker should set the basic technical rules for requesting being added to the map and edits made thereafter. Like the actual things—capitals, cities, etc—that get added, what they look like, how often the map gets updated, how you need to request edits, and so on... the technical crap.

  • There should be legislation defining rules that affect RP, like how a new nation starts on the map. (For example, should a new member to the region with 12.5 billion population immediately get a huge chunk of territory to represent that population, OR should everyone be allowed to start with a set size and then if they want to they RP expansion? Personally, I like a combo-rule whereby we'd allow a nation to start with small set amount of territory per billion in population and then ask them to RP expansion. A size about the size of Belgium is more than enough for upto a billion in a highly urban environment—think of a mega-mega-sized Singapore.)

  • Having a non-RP map serves little purpose and can be very confusing. I'd recommend that the maps always be "RP", but we must respect that some (many) players don't have time, energy, or desire to engage in warfare. A good compromise is to approach it with an RP solution—designate through RP "international law" that nations may renounce warfare and are officially pacifist nations. It would then be forbidden to engage these nations militarily. To respond to violations of this law, an international task force commanded by a war-player would take to defending the pacifist nation, sanctions can be applied to the violator (their GDP is declared 10% less, thus harming their nation, and so on). Another possible solution—terraform Sunalaya's moon (is it called Mun?) and allow pacifist nations to settle there. Warfare would be forbidden on Mun, but not Sunalaya proper. Mun could even be the regional capital, where every nation gets a small territory for peaceful purposes only, and Mun would also be the neutral seat of the United Sunalaya Assembly. Pacifist nations could have a military, but would not expand via warfare. Instead, maybe they can slowly expand into nearby unclaimed/NPC territory through peaceful RP to represent their population growth?

  • Are puppets allowed? If so, there should be strict rules for their incorporation. For example—allow only 1 puppet to be introduced each several months, allow only a percent of the puppet's stats to be counted, slowly increasing that percent over several months until the puppet is fully incorporated, and require the puppet to be developed (its own factbooks and info) and RP of the incorporation. I have Wicko and Urartega. It wouldn't be fair to snaller nations or large existing players, to just plop an extra 16 billion people on the map and instantly claim a hyper-power position in the RP. (As nice as that sounds.)

I like those ideas.

Sidera noctis

I think he should be the new map maker. He is neutral and obviously talented.

http://wac.7725.edgecastcdn.net/807725/website/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/gZW5c6b.jpg

Guys. No big changes. It doesnt matter enough. I am not in favour of a new overall map. Just fix the problems we have with the old map and leave it as is

Rhodevus wrote:Guys. No big changes. It doesnt matter enough. I am not in favour of a new overall map. Just fix the problems we have with the old map and leave it as is

He can make the map into one like he has shown.

Sidera noctis

Aznazia wrote:He can make the map into one like he has shown.

I agree

He just told me how to do that, and how he did it...

Athretvari wrote:Hope everyone is doing well!

Forgive me if I misinterpretted the debate that was/is going on concerning the maps, but if you'll permit me a few proposals for going forward.

  • The mapmaker should set the basic technical rules for requesting being added to the map and edits made thereafter. Like the actual things—capitals, cities, etc—that get added, what they look like, how often the map gets updated, how you need to request edits, and so on... the technical crap.

  • There should be legislation defining rules that affect RP, like how a new nation starts on the map. (For example, should a new member to the region with 12.5 billion population immediately get a huge chunk of territory to represent that population, OR should everyone be allowed to start with a set size and then if they want to they RP expansion? Personally, I like a combo-rule whereby we'd allow a nation to start with small set amount of territory per billion in population and then ask them to RP expansion. A size about the size of Belgium is more than enough for upto a billion in a highly urban environment—think of a mega-mega-sized Singapore.)

  • Having a non-RP map serves little purpose and can be very confusing. I'd recommend that the maps always be "RP", but we must respect that some (many) players don't have time, energy, or desire to engage in warfare. A good compromise is to approach it with an RP solution—designate through RP "international law" that nations may renounce warfare and are officially pacifist nations. It would then be forbidden to engage these nations militarily. To respond to violations of this law, an international task force commanded by a war-player would take to defending the pacifist nation, sanctions can be applied to the violator (their GDP is declared 10% less, thus harming their nation, and so on). Another possible solution—terraform Sunalaya's moon (is it called Mun?) and allow pacifist nations to settle there. Warfare would be forbidden on Mun, but not Sunalaya proper. Mun could even be the regional capital, where every nation gets a small territory for peaceful purposes only, and Mun would also be the neutral seat of the United Sunalaya Assembly. Pacifist nations could have a military, but would not expand via warfare. Instead, maybe they can slowly expand into nearby unclaimed/NPC territory through peaceful RP to represent their population growth?

  • Are puppets allowed? If so, there should be strict rules for their incorporation. For example—allow only 1 puppet to be introduced each several months, allow only a percent of the puppet's stats to be counted, slowly increasing that percent over several months until the puppet is fully incorporated, and require the puppet to be developed (its own factbooks and info) and RP of the incorporation. I have Wicko and Urartega. It wouldn't be fair to snaller nations or large existing players, to just plop an extra 16 billion people on the map and instantly claim a hyper-power position in the RP. (As nice as that sounds.)

I like this!

Lindenholt wrote:He just told me how to do that, and how he did it...

If you try to replicate his work, please make sure you show us. Maybe we can decide who the new map maker will be...

Aznazia wrote:If you try to replicate his work, please make sure you show us. Maybe we can decide who the new map maker will be...

I say we put it into a poll. Decide which map will be used.

Gorthias wrote:I say we put it into a poll. Decide which map will be used.

That's what I mean.

http://i.imgur.com/tGmjimE.png

Saudi Arabia... World's largest hypocrite

http://imgur.com/gallery/DGMsaAb

*looks at first comment*

"Our snowballs shall blot out the sun..."

Ha

"Then we shall eat our poutine in the shade."

LOL

So, I know its in the past, but I messaged Blaat (the mod) last night and asked for clarification. He said if the RP occurs on NationStates it'd violate rules if they did not consent to it and that being on the RP map cannot be taken as consent.

Lindenholt and Rhodevus

Post self-deleted by Gwynevas.

Aznazia wrote:http://imgur.com/gallery/DGMsaAb

*looks at first comment*

"Our snowballs shall blot out the sun..."

Ha

"Then we shall eat our poutine in the shade."

LOL

OMG that picture is great

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