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Norvine wrote:Let me rephrase. We have been losing IC cities. I was saying OOCly because OOCly we have posted we are losing. Sorry it was confusing.Either way you're going lose more people, doesn't matter if you return or not.

you can't just say "We're losing cities". We have to be there to actually win.

And I'm surrounded now aren't I? Time to do the Bismarck and fight to the last shell.

Aznazia wrote:I am fine with RPing's loses but I don't see why I can not attack you where your alliance is weak. I would rather destroy the fleet there rather than wait for it to attack Yaramaqui. Also Yaramaqui has declared war on you as well so you should expect to see an attack from him soon after him.

1. I don't know what makes you think we are weak there, but let's save that discussion for another time.
2. That fleet isn't attacking Yaramaqui...it's attacking Aarabiyya. I've confirmed it with Sweesonar.
3. I'll tell the same to Yaramaqui.

Aznazia wrote:I am fine with RPing's loses but I don't see why I can not attack you where your alliance is weak. I would rather destroy the fleet there rather than wait for it to attack Yaramaqui. Also Yaramaqui has declared war on you as well so you should expect to see an attack from him soon after him.

I am waiting for responses to a post.

Aznazia wrote:We will. If you could attack them from the South while I fire my anti-ship missiles from the north then we can trap them in a cross fire and inflict some heavy loses.

Where are we? I am clueless...

Oblaren wrote:you can't just say "We're losing cities". We have to be there to actually win.

And I'm surrounded now aren't I? Time to do the Bismarck and fight to the last shell.

Then why did you say you are backing out if Sweesonar is obviously ganging on you?

And, maybe check the posts between Neo Rondaly and Smoya. You'll know what I'm talking about if you do.

Oblaren wrote:you can't just say "We're losing cities". We have to be there to actually win.

And I'm surrounded now aren't I? Time to do the Bismarck and fight to the last shell.

Btw what kind of ships are these?

I have 11 left. They're all modern. 7 missile destroyers, 2 carriers one is carrier/landing ship like the American New York and a heavy cruiser with turrets

Oblaren wrote:you can't just say "We're losing cities". We have to be there to actually win.

And I'm surrounded now aren't I? Time to do the Bismarck and fight to the last shell.

I thought they were letting your fleet go.

Norvine wrote:1. I don't know what makes you think we are weak there, but let's save that discussion for another time.
2. That fleet isn't attacking Yaramaqui...it's attacking Aarabiyya. I've confirmed it with Sweesonar.
3. I'll tell the same to Yaramaqui.

Just get me a war map. After playing Empire: Total War I know how these kinds of things work.

Norvine wrote:1. I don't know what makes you think we are weak there, but let's save that discussion for another time.
2. That fleet isn't attacking Yaramaqui...it's attacking Aarabiyya. I've confirmed it with Sweesonar.
3. I'll tell the same to Yaramaqui.

1.) I think you are weak there since you are asking to not attack there OOCly.
2.) I think that I am justified to attack the fleet that is invading a nation that is fighting against you.
3.) I am glad you are asking Yaramaqui about attacking him before invading him.

Oblaren wrote:Btw what kind of ships are these?

I have 11 left. They're all modern. 7 missile destroyers, 2 carriers one is carrier/landing ship like the American New York and a heavy cruiser with turrets

I don't know, but Sweesonar would know.

Norvine wrote:Then why did you say you are backing out if Sweesonar is obviously ganging on you?

And, maybe check the posts between Neo Rondaly and Smoya. You'll know what I'm talking about if you do.

He just posted about surrounding me...

Norvine wrote:I don't know, but Sweesonar would know.

Ok

Zanera wrote:I thought they were letting your fleet go.

Just get me a war map. After playing Empire: Total War I know how these kinds of things work.

Never mind. Reread the post. They want to destroy you. I better show up.

Zanera wrote:Never mind. Reread the post. They want to destroy you. I better show up.

Yup. I'll focus on one ship and sink it to escape

Aznazia wrote:1.) I think you are weak there since you are asking to not attack there OOCly.
2.) I think that I am justified to attack the fleet that is invading a nation that is fighting against you.
3.) I am glad you are asking Yaramaqui about attacking him before invading him.

1.) No, no, no. I'm asking you not to attack there for a good storyline. I could care less, but even Vekalse said it would be better for a better storyline if we captured the nation of Aarabiyya. After that I don't care what you guys do. What I say OOCly does not reflect the status ICly.
2.) Do whatever you want. Unless you want a good storyline, and a more intense war. I'm just suggesting this. Sorry if it seems like I'm forcing it.

Oblaren wrote:He just posted about surrounding me...

That is a bit Gmodish to do in one post. He should ask you if he can and he should have a post ordering his fleet to begin to encircle you.

Oblaren wrote:Btw what kind of ships are these?

I have 11 left. They're all modern. 7 missile destroyers, 2 carriers one is carrier/landing ship like the American New York and a heavy cruiser with turrets

Well from what I was reading... Sweesonar said that his ships were firing their guns (not missiles) at you and his bombers bombing you. I would assume he has some destroyers mixed with heavy cruisers with guns and a carrier or two to allow his bombers to take off and attack you. However I don't know how his ships would fire their guns if missiles have a much further range.

Norvine wrote:1.) No, no, no. I'm asking you not to attack there for a good storyline. I could care less, but even Vekalse said it would be better for a better storyline if we captured the nation of Aarabiyya. After that I don't care what you guys do. What I say OOCly does not reflect the status ICly.
2.) Do whatever you want. Unless you want a good storyline, and a more intense war. I'm just suggesting this. Sorry if it seems like I'm forcing it.

If I can't save it why would I attack?

Aznazia wrote:That is a bit Gmodish to do in one post. He should ask you if he can and he should have a post ordering his fleet to begin to encircle you.

Well from what I was reading... Sweesonar said that his ships were firing their guns (not missiles) at you and his bombers bombing you. I would assume he has some destroyers mixed with heavy cruisers with guns and a carrier or two to allow his bombers to take off and attack you. However I don't know how his ships would fire their guns if missiles have a much further range.

Well I'm shooting mostly missiles.

Norvine wrote:1.) No, no, no. I'm asking you not to attack there for a good storyline. I could care less, but even Vekalse said it would be better for a better storyline if we captured the nation of Aarabiyya. After that I don't care what you guys do. What I say OOCly does not reflect the status ICly.
2.) Do whatever you want. Unless you want a good storyline, and a more intense war. I'm just suggesting this. Sorry if it seems like I'm forcing it.

It does seem like you are forcing it. It goes against every logical and strategic thought in my head. However I will respect your request as long as you ask Sweesonar to allow Oblaren to retreat with heavy loses.

Aznazia wrote:That is a bit Gmodish to do in one post. He should ask you if he can and he should have a post ordering his fleet to begin to encircle you.

Well from what I was reading... Sweesonar said that his ships were firing their guns (not missiles) at you and his bombers bombing you. I would assume he has some destroyers mixed with heavy cruisers with guns and a carrier or two to allow his bombers to take off and attack you. However I don't know how his ships would fire their guns if missiles have a much further range.

He said he was 'closing in'. I assume once he does he will destroy him, not that he was encircling him.

Oblaren wrote:If I can't save it why would I attack?

Well I'm shooting mostly missiles.

You can, technically, save it but OOCly I'm trying to stop it for the good of the RP.

Aznazia wrote:It does seem like you are forcing it. It goes against every logical and strategic thought in my head. However I will respect your request as long as you ask Sweesonar to allow Oblaren to retreat with heavy loses.

:(

I always get my ass kicked.

Norvine wrote:You can, technically, save it but OOCly I'm trying to stop it for the good of the RP.

ok...

Norvine wrote:You can, technically, save it but OOCly I'm trying to stop it for the good of the RP.

I want a rendezvous so that we can go back in and have a more tense naval battle.

Can I use 30% of my GDP on my navy now?

Aznazia wrote:It does seem like you are forcing it. It goes against every logical and strategic thought in my head. However I will respect your request as long as you ask Sweesonar to allow Oblaren to retreat with heavy loses.

I agree. I'm not forcing it. Do whatever you want. Like I said, in doing this for a better storyline...and I already said I would tell Yaramaqui OOCly if we attack, so we're doing something in return.

Oh and I forgot my nuclear sub is there too! so only 6 missile destroyers

Oblaren wrote::(

I always get my ass kicked.

I question sending in a fleet without assistance. I'd never do that, but that might be because I am weaker...

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