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I agree with you Crazed donkeys that if there's no founder in the region, said region would be more democratic
- if you mean by how the powers-that-be is elected. By how the power is used, however, might not go hand in hand with democratic ideals.
I understand your point of view CD but I believe the delegate's access to the regional controls doesn't increase democracy when
the founder's alive. I can make the changes needed to run the region, these days that's just changing the WFE when needed.

It's especially risky to have a freshly-created nation as an executive delegate (and where the majority of endorsers are similarly younger nations).
You gaining the delegacy, CD, could be seen as breaking the rules, coup'd etat or even abhorring as foreign interference. When you gained the delegacy, it was asked in the WFE to all WA nations to endorse Tel Fyr Mora.
You never endorsed our incumbent delegate.
Granted, with the changes to the game's code (ie. influence) make it harder to hijack the region from its native members, it can be done with ease when the region is as small as Peace is.
Hi-jacking nowadays can lead into legalized griefing, destruction of the region and refounding under the griefer's rule.

Furthermore, you claim you want more democracy. How come you haven't asked from the region how to vote in the WA, hmm?

6 hours ago: Crazed Donkeys voted against the World Assembly Resolution "Access to Organs and Tissues".
2 days 3 hours ago: Crazed Donkeys voted against the World Assembly Resolution "Commend Glen-Rhodes".

Crazed donkeys

The following are my responses to your above statements:

1. "When you gained the delegacy, it was asked in the WFE to all WA nations to endorse Tel Fyr Mora" - How democratic is that? When I wanted to be elected Delegate, I messaged several nations asking for their endorsements, i.e. I was campaigning for endorsements. I would never expect the WFE to state that I should be endorsed by every WA nation in the region.

2. "Granted, with the changes to the game's code (ie. influence) make it harder to hijack the region from its native members, it can be done with ease when the region is as small as Peace is" - Wrong. I would need a truly enormous (not to mention impossible to attain in practice) level of influence in order to eject every nation from this region, which I'd have to do all in one go right before the daily update to prevent you from reversing this, to be able to re-found the region.

3. "You claim you want more democracy. How come you haven't asked from the region how to vote in the WA, hmm?" - easy to answer. Nations have endorsed me to be delegate. As delegate, I carry more votes when voting on WA resolutions. If the nations endorsing me don't like the way I've voted on a particular issue, they can withdraw their endorsement from me and endorse another candidate. I have been voted in, and therefore have the right to choose how our region's delegate vote is cast. By the same token, as elected delegate, I should be democratically entitled to administrative powers.

So I implore you A pacifist, please grant the regional delegate administrative powers, in the name of democracy. It's only fair.

I agree with the above. Please grant admin powers to the region delegate. It's the most democratic way.

We appear to have lost a large percentage of nations from our region. Maybe proving admin rights to current delegates may be a good option. Though as the founder created this region I believe they know whats best. Maybe votes and suggestions would be best rather than taking complete control.

Post self-deleted by Crazed donkeys.

Crazed donkeys

Yes, A pacifist created the region. Does that mean that only he should wield any power within it? Even when an elected WA delegate does not?

"1. ("When you gained the delegacy, it was asked in the WFE to all WA nations to endorse Tel Fyr Mora") - How democratic is that? When I wanted to be elected Delegate, I messaged several nations asking for their endorsements, i.e. I was campaigning for endorsements. I would never expect the WFE to state that I should be endorsed by every WA nation in the region."

- Asking isn't telling. While the nations are free to choose whether or not support the delegate, it's just a polite suggestion to increase the weight in the WA. There hasn't really been much of organized endorsement-gathering since A t l a n t i s was the delegate. Have you considered it's polite to ask around how the region works out before asking others to endorse you? How about that there should be general elections before delegate is chosen, like in the organized regions?

"2.. "(Granted, with the changes to the game's code (ie. influence) make it harder to hijack the region from its native members, it can be done with ease when the region is as small as Peace is)" - Wrong. I would need a truly enormous (not to mention impossible to attain in practice) level of influence in order to eject every nation from this region, which I'd have to do all in one go right before the daily update to prevent you from reversing this, to be able to re-found the region.

- I can be quite inactive in the game when there's no reason to participate, note when you CD entered the region, and were asking endorsements, my founder nation was seemingly dying, close to CTEing. If the RC is turned on for the WA Delegate, nothing stops other (read: hostile) WA nations thinking the same and move in close to the regional update and endorsing a selected delegate-candidate of their own choosing, making the influence grow very fast, sometimes they don't care if the founder is active either. If I don't happen to spot the invasion it can take only few days before Peace would be decimated.

"3. "(You claim you want more democracy. How come you haven't asked from the region how to vote in the WA, hmm?)" - easy to answer. Nations have endorsed me to be delegate. As delegate, I carry more votes when voting on WA resolutions. If the nations endorsing me don't like the way I've voted on a particular issue, they can withdraw their endorsement from me and endorse another candidate. I have been voted in, and therefore have the right to choose how our region's delegate vote is cast. By the same token, as elected delegate, I should be democratically entitled to administrative powers.

- In the democratic NS regions the etiquette is to have a vote-in how to vote in the WA from the region's WA nations. The result of the vote then bounds how the delegate votes in the WA, in the region's name. The delegate represents the region in the WA, thus the members ought to have the chance to actively participate in the decision making process.

I haven't read any practical reasons why the delegates need access to the regional controls. I can make all the changes to the WFE, tags and so on per the wishes of the people of Peace. I won't let the region fall in danger with active invaders looking for regions to attack during the updates. Peace, where only three nations endorse a delegate is a piece of cake to take over.

Crazed donkeys

Well, if we are not going to agree on this, I have decided to leave. Good luck to you all, and I wish much success to this region. Long live Peace.

It's a shame an agreement couldn't be reached. It was nice to see the region active for a while.

Oh I have appeared to assume WA delegate after CD's departure. I will assume this roll unless a new election is wished to take place?

I'm not running against you. Bill's the only other viable candidate but only three WA's in the region.... Elections would be silly I think. One WA nation more and there could be at least some competition between the candidates.

True.

New and old blood. Welcome Taglione and Rachran, welcome back GOP For Liberalism.

Thanks for the welcome Pacifist

Stoner republic

Sup dudes

The tree hugging people

This is a quiet region ahhah

Bye bye, Hairyhippydudes. Thank you for sticking up here as long as you did!

"Woops"
I banned Mades because the nation used Peace to move to a raider region.

There was a suggestion, 37 days ago, to create an embassy between Peace and the region known as "Lupi Dorato".
Any opinions on should we respond to the request on the creation of embassies (due to time passed, we'd have to request the embassies to be created)?

A prayer of peace for the featured region:

Eternal Lord,
whose kingdom knows only the sword of righteousness and justice,
and where your only power is love,
send forth your spirit
so that all the peoples of the earth will join together
as children of one Father,
for yours alone is the kingdom,
the power and the glory, for ever and ever.
Amen.

Congratulations on being featured!

Mavericks and jesters

Happy Feature Day !! Peace !!

By random caprice
today, we have peace!

Congrats on being featured

Happy Feature!

Nogoodnamesleftistan

Congrats on being featured, friends.

Greetings from The Theocracy of LaSoya.

The Council of Communal Affairs has lowered the level of decision anxiety amongst our citizens to record lows and would be pleased to share thoughts and ideas with any interested parties. The Pious Prophet wishes he could extend a personal greeting to each of the nations in this fair region but he is heavily occupied with the harvest at this time of year.

May peace find you all.

The Devout Office of Missionaries and Foreign Missives

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