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And the minimum wage, for that matter. Which originally had racist intentions.

James mccosh and Cosmo kramer

Sibirsky wrote:And the minimum wage, for that matter. Which originally had racist intentions.

Indeed. Depreciation of the minimum wage's real value is correlated with black employment, income and labour force gains.

James mccosh

http://tinyurl.com/okzkyug

Actually the main reason for high energy prices in the U.K. is the "green" levy and regulations of the government.

Exactly what Mr Obama wants to do with his EPA.

It is not a complicated matter (needing to be explained by "corporatism") it is a matter of ideology - with the deliberate intention that energy prices should "sky rocket".

Sibirsky wrote:Religion is authoritarian, just like statism. It is fear driven. Like statism. Do this, that and the other thing. Don't do this and that. Or go to hell.

You specifically singled out Native Americans and said they do not deserve property rights. That's discrimination. The left is more concerned with inequality than the standard of living. It's outrageous. They would rather the poor be poorer, as long as the rich were less rich on a relative basis.

Perhaps in 1788, but no one is obliged to go to church, unlike the church that is the state.

Please reread what I said. If they (Native Americans) truly wish to be autonomous from the US, then it only makes sense that they be given the right to enforce their own property rights over the State. Until they are, of course the State should continue enforcing property rights, if anything.

And I thought the point of anarcho-capitalism was that property rights would be privately or communally enforced, anyway?

The Liberated Territories wrote:Perhaps in 1788, but no one is obliged to go to church, unlike the church that is the state.

Please reread what I said. If they (Native Americans) truly wish to be autonomous from the US, then it only makes sense that they be given the right to enforce their own property rights over the State. Until they are, of course the State should continue enforcing property rights, if anything.

And I thought the point of anarcho-capitalism was that property rights would be privately or communally enforced, anyway?

Are you sure about that? How many religions ostracize former members if they no longer believe? How many family members and friends do the same? How many children are enrolled in various religious schools?

Very many are obliged.

In the United States, Native Americans on reservations do not have property rights. Everyone else does. What is the issue you are having?

What does anarcho-capitalism have to do with the United States and Native American reservations?

James mccosh wrote:Actually the main reason for high energy prices in the U.K. is the "green" levy and regulations of the government.

Exactly what Mr Obama wants to do with his EPA.

It is not a complicated matter (needing to be explained by "corporatism") it is a matter of ideology - with the deliberate intention that energy prices should "sky rocket".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlTxGHn4sH4

Sibirsky wrote:Are you sure about that? How many religions ostracize former members if they no longer believe? How many family members and friends do the same? How many children are enrolled in various religious schools?

Very many are obliged.

In the United States, Native Americans on reservations do not have property rights. Everyone else does. What is the issue you are having?

What does anarcho-capitalism have to do with the United States and Native American reservations?

-yes
-jehova's witnesses and maybe mormons
-idk
-not many

Let's not argue about religion. It goes nowhere usually.

Native Americans typically lived communally, but there were features of property rights. Specifically, when dividing the land, the US gov cut a lot of former native areas, many of which were "owned" in a sense by certain families, where uprooted or taken by homesteaders who ignored the fact the land was already in use.

http://fee.org/freeman/detail/property-rights-among-native-americans

actually I feel like we aren't arguing for anything here except my insistence that property rights can be privately enforced which is odd because I am not an ancap. (I think it has to do more with justice and defense) Property rights can't be enforced without restituting much native american land back to them, which is sorta impossible in the current age.

Lincoln sydney

The Liberated Territories wrote:-yes
-jehova's witnesses and maybe mormons
-idk
-not many

Let's not argue about religion. It goes nowhere usually.

Native Americans typically lived communally, but there were features of property rights. Specifically, when dividing the land, the US gov cut a lot of former native areas, many of which were "owned" in a sense by certain families, where uprooted or taken by homesteaders who ignored the fact the land was already in use.

http://fee.org/freeman/detail/property-rights-among-native-americans

actually I feel like we aren't arguing for anything here except my insistence that property rights can be privately enforced which is odd because I am not an ancap. (I think it has to do more with justice and defense) Property rights can't be enforced without restituting much native american land back to them, which is sorta impossible in the current age.

Jehovah's Witnesses are just the worst. Not the only. Every religion is based on some degree of indoctrination. That's why they are geographic.

I am arguing for Native Americans to get the same rights as everyone else. The Lumbees are doing very well, precisely because they do not have federal recognition, and as a result, have property rights.

Lincoln sydney wrote:Jehovah's Witnesses are just the worst. Not the only. Every religion is based on some degree of indoctrination. That's why they are geographic.

I am arguing for Native Americans to get the same rights as everyone else. The Lumbees are doing very well, precisely because they do not have federal recognition, and as a result, have property rights.

Just like every ideology has some degree of indoctrination? Got to keep those new Objectivist recruits coming from somewhere...

So am I. I am only arguing that should Native Americans seek full autonomy, they should also be able to enforce their own property rights.

Also, since gay marriage is hot these days, I think I would put up a relevant article:

http://www.advocate.com/commentary/2015/06/25/op-ed-libertarians-have-long-led-way-marriage

Libertarians were fighting for gay marriage before fighting for gay marriage was even cool.

Leocardia has abolished its tax code. The economy dropped from Frightening to Strong. Now I'm confronted a bunch of reall obvious legal issues from it. Oh well.

So, what does everyone think of this quiz (Brought up by Kelinfort?

http://www.quiz2d.com/quiz/

I got "Radical Libertarian".

I'm so glad I have this embassy. My region died again.

Lol.

The Libertarian Party of the UK is a joke.

Cosmo kramer

The Liberated Territories wrote:Lol.

The Libertarian Party of the UK is a joke.

Took you this long to figure that out?

The entire 'party' apparatus feels like it's being run by some lazy ancap blogger who occasionally vents his opinions on the internet and never checks his answering machine.

Cosmo kramer wrote:Took you this long to figure that out?

The entire 'party' apparatus feels like it's being run by some lazy ancap blogger who occasionally vents his opinions on the internet and never checks his answering machine.

Worse than the Libertarian Party of Nevada, that's for sure. Lol.

Too many neo-cons hanging around the libertarian movement. Preach about muh illegal aliens and Donald Trump's 'greatness' somewhere else please.

Cosmo kramer wrote:Too many neo-cons hanging around the libertarian movement. Preach about muh illegal aliens and Donald Trump's 'greatness' somewhere else please.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIzivCJ9pzU

Cosmo kramer

IT: Wildcat banking was a MYTH.

While I do not advocating getting rid of the US dollar for stability and debt related reasons, I believe that the US government should loosen restrictions on alternative currencies, including the restriction that banks cannot produce their own money.

Cosmo kramer wrote:Took you this long to figure that out?

The entire 'party' apparatus feels like it's being run by some lazy ancap blogger who occasionally vents his opinions on the internet and never checks his answering machine.

What. LIBUK is pretty conservative. Alan Duncan is surely more liberal

Is it bad that when I type the word "the" one of the first suggested words after it is "government?"

The Liberated Territories wrote:Is it bad that when I type the word "the" one of the first suggested words after it is "government?"

On my phone...

The Liberated Territories wrote:On my phone...

Lemme try..

"The government has a..."

Wow. I guess not

Vecherd wrote:What. LIBUK is pretty conservative. Alan Duncan is surely more liberal

Alan Duncan has caved to the establishment to gain power. I saw him on TV a while ago defending the existence of foreign aid.

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