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I still have to commend whoever came up with the idea for a "Tropic of Karl Marx" to be on our map. TBH since the south one is Marx, I think having the north one be named after Engels would have been cooler, as I don't think as many people are familiar with Robert Owen (had to google him).

I'll always have a soft spot for Owen. After all, I learned about him first, before Marx. Workers Cooperatives remain a practical and achievable goal within the workings of capitalism.

You could remain the Prime Meridian after Engels. :P

Suceavija wrote:I have finally updated the map - I apologize for allowing 1 week to become 5.... :P
Anyway, here it is:
http://i.imgur.com/tWEuq8c.png
PS - I'm enjoying the recent addition of bear-themed nations to the DSA ;)

Fantastic! Thanks for the spot.
Everyone beware the newly formed Bearmuda Triangle. ;)

Lemur Isles and Guertonia

Solus unus wrote:I still have to commend whoever came up with the idea for a "Tropic of Karl Marx" to be on our map. TBH since the south one is Marx, I think having the north one be named after Engels would have been cooler, as I don't think as many people are familiar with Robert Owen (had to google him).

It was our own Communicar :D

If you or anyone else has input about what to name certain geographical features on the map, feel free to let me know in this forum thread:

http://s1.zetaboards.com/DemocraticSocialist/topic/5824459/1/#new

I couldn't find any mention of this when I searched the RMB, so forgive me if it's been brought up before:

The Capitol of the DSA seems to refer to a city rather than a building, so shouldn't it be The Capital?

*ducks*

Solus unus

Bearmuda wrote:I couldn't find any mention of this when I searched the RMB, so forgive me if it's been brought up before:
The Capitol of the DSA seems to refer to a city rather than a building, so shouldn't it be The Capital?
*ducks*

I mean, I think that the Capitol with an O has been used to refer to a city other times. IIRC it was spelled that way in the hunger games books.

Bearmuda wrote:I couldn't find any mention of this when I searched the RMB, so forgive me if it's been brought up before:
The Capitol of the DSA seems to refer to a city rather than a building, so shouldn't it be The Capital?
*ducks*

Solus unus wrote:I mean, I think that the Capitol with an O has been used to refer to a city other times. IIRC it was spelled that way in the hunger games books.

In a perfect world I, too, would be more comfortable with the 'al' ending when referring to the city state itself because of the implied model of a capital city containing the regional capitol.

However, the only context that we all seem to use when referencing it has been the seat of the DSA government, in which case the 'ol' ending would be appropriate. This is probably why the current spelling has always stood and made it passed several sets of scrutinizing eyes during the Charter convention from which the concept of the city-state model for the seat of our regional government emerged.

Beyond that, the amount of time it would take to 'correct' all of the administrative documents/forum subtitles and content, the RP content like the maps, and then found the new capital city nation and update its factbook with the 'al' spelling would be far, far greater than the amount of time it takes to simply justify the current spelling :P

I hopes this helps answer your question ;)

*hope this helps

Solus unus wrote:I mean, I think that the Capitol with an O has been used to refer to a city other times. IIRC it was spelled that way in the hunger games books.

Generally it doesn't refer to cities. You could say the Hunger Games kind of muddied the waters there, but I think I've come up with how it works: The Capitol is the proper name of the city, so it can get away with using a word that generally only refers to a building (or historically to a hill in Rome).

In other words: The Capitol is the capital, but it isn't the capitol. The capitol is in The Capitol, but the capital is The Capitol. :P

I suppose that could apply to The Capitol of the DSA as well, since it doesn't exactly have any other name. It must simply be the proper name of the capital. Thanks, Suceavija, for the explanation. I think I'm at peace with it now. :)

Bearmuda wrote:Generally it doesn't refer to cities. You could say the Hunger Games kind of muddied the waters there, but I think I've come up with how it works: The Capitol is the proper name of the city, so it can get away with using a word that generally only refers to a building (or historically to a hill in Rome).
In other words: The Capitol is the capital, but it isn't the capitol. The capitol is in The Capitol, but the capital is The Capitol. :P
I suppose that could apply to The Capitol of the DSA as well, since it doesn't exactly have any other name. It must simply be the proper name of the capital. Thanks, Suceavija, for the explanation. I think I'm at peace with it now. :)

Wow, your rationale is way better than mine - thanks for convincing not only yourself but me as well!
The Capitol is the capital where the capitol is located - I like it ;)

Bearmuda

Bearmuda wrote:In other words: The Capitol is the capital, but it isn't the capitol. The capitol is in The Capitol, but the capital is The Capitol. :P

I think you just broke my brain.

South jarvis, Communicar, Bearmuda, and Solus unus

Speaking of the Capitol, it does not seem to have an updated FB on the current Cabinet. I do think that matter should probably be attended to once the 18th Cabinet takes over, but I figured I'd bring it up.

**Looks at today's census.**

I have no idea who this Bananaly guy is.

Suceavija, Gallifrax, and Borq

Sorry for the double post.

Regarding the resolution currently at vote. I'd recommend an against vote. There are four operative clauses, three of these are mere suggestions to member nations while the only requirement is so vague and ineffective that it makes the whole thing a do nothing, feel good piece of fluff. You might as well have a clause in support of motherhood and apple pie.

There are also legality concerns arising from the area of effect and the resolution may yet be discarded. In the environmental category, the precedent has been that the "all businesses" area of effect is the equivalent of a strong strength in the other categories. It is patently obvious that the resolution is incredibly mild so it is possible that there's a "strength" violation.

Bananaistan, I agree, "good faith effort" doesn't mean anything on the world stage.

Also, hi folks!

Suceavija and South jarvis

Arcomo wrote:Bananaistan, I agree, "good faith effort" doesn't mean anything on the world stage.
Also, hi folks!

Well if it isn't the long lost Diederick Antonius :D

Welcome back from the dead - and welcome back to NS and to the DSA! There have been a few changes around here but I think you'll find everything still in order ;)

Thanks! It's a pleasure to be back here. Great to see you're still at it too.

Arcomo wrote:Bananaistan, I agree, "good faith effort" doesn't mean anything on the world stage.
Also, hi folks!

Welcome back!

I thought you'd be back one day. :)

Hey, I just noticed that two of the top ten nations in today's census are of prohibited categories. Does Borq know about this?

Arcomo wrote:Thanks! It's a pleasure to be back here. Great to see you're still at it too.

Welcome back! ^_^

Woah! My private sector is gone AND my economy rose in one fell swoop!

Solus unus wrote:Hey, I just noticed that two of the top ten nations in today's census are of prohibited categories. Does Borq know about this?

He does. Nothing he can do about it. Why, you ask? Because a month ago he was released from his duties as MoJ, given that his Civil Rights were too low and he had to leave Congress. In the meantime he corrected that situation, he is again a member of Congress, but he is not automatically re-elected MoJ. We have no MoJ right now.

Uupha and Solus unus

Borq wrote:He does. Nothing he can do about it. Why, you ask? Because a month ago he was released from his duties as MoJ, given that his Civil Rights were too low and he had to leave Congress. In the meantime he corrected that situation, he is again a member of Congress, but he is not automatically re-elected MoJ. We have no MoJ right now.

I don't suppose we can have a vote on "Borq as MoJ for life, regardless of Civil Rights", can we?

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