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I had my school powder puff game today. That was pretty much me all today.
Dundee derry, Uupha, Guertonia, and Olofbauden
I did not expect my WA proposal to get to vote. Thanks for your support in the vote!
Dundee derry, Mettia, and Olofbauden
Apparently people here in Netherland expect refugees to be unconditionally grateful because we take them in here, which entails that any complaint about their accommodation is out of the question, and means that, if they dare complain, they have to immediately leave the country because they wouldn't be grateful enough then. Refugees don't deserve television to see how their country is being ripped to shreds, no internet to stay in contact with their family and even a simple lock on the door seems to be an unnecessary luxury according to the angry Wildersian "resistance".
Fück it. I'm getting sick of hearing Netherlanders belittling refugees for having legitimate grievences. Seriously, just fück them.
Guertonia, Borq, Wurtnopia, and Olofbauden
The sentiments are essentially similar here for immigrants ore welfare recipients. The conservatives will often tout the "luxuries" these "moochers" have: Refrigerators, dishwashers, washer/dryers, microwaves, etc. They try their hardest to convey that they are somehow undeserving of the most basic amenities, which is ridiculous as almost NOone lives without these things. It's like they are forever stuck in the 1950's, which funny seeing how some of them refer to it as the best era.
It disgusts me to my core that humans are capable of being so cruell to one another in such an utterly casual fashion. They don't even stop to think over the bullshit they're spouting; they've already figured for themselves that poor people are poor due to what can easily be compared to karma, and thus they deserve all the shat they get. Should've worked harder, you lazy bum! And refugees of course aren't actually refugees: they're really just poor people who want to take advantage of our welfare system by sitting around all day and doing nothing, if they aren't just under-cover terrorists for Daesh. Also, if these refugees demand to be able to have locks on their doors, that somehow proves they're not really refugees, because actual refugees would ("should" is the word they're looking for) be happy with anything they get.
Being on the other side, for once, I regularly witness businesses that try to use unemployment services to hire the poor and disabled for free by changing their promised paid position to an unpaid internship. It's despicable. And yet, not a client that doesn't want to work or get stuff for free. It's the lie of statistics: there's records of the expenses gone towards individuals, but nothing on the lack of payment or work, because there is no accounting involved.
Messrs Herrebrugh and Ratateague,
I'm going to give a dissenting opinion. Before any of you boo and hiss, I want you to listen.
By all means, we should meet the basic needs of refugees. Those basic needs being: food, shelter, clothing, education and medical care. The rest are wants. You do not need a dishwasher. You do not need a microwave oven. You do not need internet. You do not need television.
Before you turn your noses up and ask me if I have done without these things, I have.
I moved out of my parent's house in 1994.
I bought my first microwave in 2012. I don't own a dishwasher, I still wash my dishes by hand. I don't own a cell phone. My internet package is the lowest and cheapest I can get. Hell, while I'm one the subject, the first time I used the internet was 1995, in my second year of university. I didn't pay for a connection until 2001. Before that I used telnet over a 14.4 modem to connect to the free internet the university offered.
I've lived without TV. While I was in university I made do with a 8 inch TV with rabbit ears, I couldn't afford cable. When I started working in 2001, I could only afford a basic package. To this day, I can only afford the Videotron MyPick20 package.
Yes, I had to collect EI benefits when I lost my first job. Yes, I was forced on to welfare when my EI benefits ran out. I agree, most people on welfare only want to contribute to society. Luckily, I managed to get another job in the Federal civil service.
Last year I made 58K, which means I paid 37% income tax. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html
That's not including the 14.975% HST I pay every single time I go to the store to buy food, or bring my dog to the vet, or have work done on my car, or pay for my hydro, or pay for my Cable/Internet, or whatever other expenses I meet to live my life.
Now yes, I grumble about taxes. That's my right as a member of the overtaxed middle class. However, I realize that my taxes are used to pay for the standard of living that the majority of Canadians enjoy. At the end of the fiscal year, I fill out my return with pride. Its my patriotic duty to pay my taxes. Those dollars I've contributed have helped a young person get the education they deserve, or the medical treatment a fellow citizen deserves. It pays for a refugee escaping a war torn country so they can raise their family in safety. It pays for refugee fleeing persecution because of they believe.
I can't pay anymore. Don't I deserve to enjoy the fruits of my labour? Why the Hell should I and many millions like me, be expected to pick up the tab for people to live better than I do?
Sodankyla and Olofbauden
Heroica, I wouldn't ask you if you have done without these things because it's irrelevant. These refugees have some very basic needs someone who just escaped a warzone would be likely to have, and yes, that includes internet to have contact with their families and television to keep up with events.
Just because your standard of living is shıt doesn't mean that of asylum-seekers has to be. I support raising it in both cases, but that also means I won't oppose the latter just because the former hasn't been reached yet, and vice versa.
Honestly, why should asylum-seekers have to live in bad accommodations? Because they're somehow indebted to us, and thus should get lesser things than the commoner in western countries? Because we "can't afford" it?
Laevendell, Uupha, Communicar, and Olofbauden
This kind of behaviour was made commonplace and mainstream in Sweden by the previous government (conservative-liberal) via the FAS3 program ("PHASE3"), that unemployed people are forced into if they've been unemployed for "too long". They made it out to be a chance for people to get a foot in to the work market, but the participants aren't paid anything above the unemployment benefits (which at this stage are quite low), have to accept any offers and the employers get paid for it by the government. Companies exploited this and had people repaint chairs several times and do other pointless things (they aren't allowed to replace regular staff, doing essential tasks). It has been shown that, like most other initiatives of that government, it is expensive and does not get people jobs, rather the opposite.
The current government (minority social-democrat + green) have said they are going to abolish it, though they don't have a majority in parliament.
Yes. We, as Italians, cannot afford it. In fact, our national public services are experiencing huge budget cuts (for example, we can't go to school on saturday because we can't afford the heating for winter).
During these times of economic recession, TV and Internet become luxuries. There are Italian families (mainly from South Italy) that simply do not have these things.
So, if I had to choose between more funds to healthcare, education and welfare or more TVs and free internet for the immigrants, I'd choose the former. I may be considered selfish, but frankly I don't care.
Eh. I think Italy has a legitimate grievance there. The EU should show itself useful and force all members to cooperate in alleviating the situation in Italy and Greece, by spreading refugees over the others. But, alas, when you need the EU...
Bananaistan, Laevendell, and Olofbauden
Why should anyone go without is the real issue.
Austerity: Economic condition that does not allow luxuries. (dictionary.cambridge.org)
I personally don't believe in austerity, but if it does have to happen then it should be REAL luxuries that are cut back on.
Things like mobile phones and the internet are modern conveniences for real-time communication that should be made available to all in society (I'm not saying newest smartphone, and cutting edge broadband here, just functional access to communication).
Yachts, sports cars, mansions, champagne and any residential property you don't intend to live in yourself should all have a much higher tax attached to them.
Instead buy to let properties get tax relief, high earners tax rates go down, corporation tax takes a huge dive.
Under current austerity measures, those who could already afford luxuries, can now afford MORE luxuries, while everyone else has to forgo the "luxury" of secure accommodation, food, basic energy/utility needs and health/social care.
If the supporters of austerity put their money where their mouth was, more people may be willing to accept that living conditions may be a little worse than they were before, but when it seems that every penny cut from the struggling in society goes straight to the richest in the same society then it just looks and feels like a scam.
Laevendell and Olofbauden
The EU won't help Italy and Greece because we're succumbing to the free market, and the EU is based on a free market, capitalist system. Not to mention it does not have any political power whatsoever. Everyone thinks for themselves, it's a free for all nowadays. Disgusting.
No problem. It did take a second to register though :P
In regard to the statement "Left-wing parties do not have the balls to change things"
My personal views are that they shouldn't need balls. The role of government isn't to lord over us, but to carry out the will of the people. You don't need balls when carrying out the will of the many, but unfortunately our current democratic system doesn't really take that into account. The politicians shouldn't decide what the key issues are and let us discuss them, it should be the other way around. If we say we're hungry and want affordable housing, that should be their top priority and THEY should discuss the best way to implement that (not IF they will, as the public have already been told that's what their task is), instead we're told we have to be hungry and unsure of our living arrangements while they continue with their own agendas, using those agendas to justify not supporting the will of the people.
Sodankyla and Olofbauden
Speaking of the immigrants, reports of 3 attacks in Paris carried out by gunmen. 28 dead at the current time.
The more we legitimately help innocents, the more Jihadists and reactionaries get in the way of people's lives. We're actually having legitimate leftists and centre-rights converting over to either religious extremism or helping the militant right regain a foothold in politics. A storm is brewing over Europe.
I'm very sad to hear what is going on in Paris; I pray for all the people living there.
The militant right will certainly use these news to make populist remarks against the immigrants and the leftists, because oh do they like it when some extremist gives them a casus belli.
Just yesterday, a bunch of jihadists were arrested here in Italy; they were preparing for some kind of attack similar to the one you're describing. I sincerely hope that the european intelligence services will collaborate (along with NSA/CIA) in order to eliminate all the extremists on european soil. However, the other innocent immigrants should not be blamed for such things.
Laevendell, Sodankyla, Sariterres, Olofbauden, and 1 otherThe union of klotecnia
And yet, people shall blame them because of such uncertainties. For the Europeans, who have remained homogenous in their general group, are experiencing massive culture shock that is quickly creating far more tension than humanitarian mutual interest. A member of West Asia and of Muslim disposition, can be easily identified. That cultural grouping, along with psychotic Muslim religious warriors shedding blood in the name of god, creates an environment of extreme fear that naturally leads to reactionary acts. These acts against the new arrivals are wrong, but one must realize that this is somehow natural, especially when the new arrival has a chance of becomming the next suicide bomber (in the eyes of the natives). The Jihadists and populist right, I think, are well aware of this and they are both planning and taking advantage of that fear to further their separate interests. Time is quickly running out for Europe's leaders to come up with a reasonable solution to this, otherwise the immigrant crisis will turn into a military crisis.
Elections for the Seventeenth Cabinet have concluded. Congratulations, 
Lemur Isles, Celle franca, 
Borq and Ivory rhodes.
Communicar, you'll need to choose between P/WAD and MFA, but I'll leave that to Lemur Isles.
Also, since no nominations were received for MIRP, a special election will need to be held.
Ivory rhodes, Lemur Isles, and Celle franca
Post self-deleted by Kiptoke-ruselia.
I fear that what happened in Paris might be used as a casus belli for an invasion in the Middle East...
The French people won't continue ignoring what is happening. I sense troubled times ahead.
However, there is no time to think about war and vengeance. Today is a day of mourning.
Vive la France!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K1q9Ntcr5g&ab_channel=bursty13
Uupha and Olofbauden
How much does joining the WA affect the laws in your own country? I'm considering joining but have a few concerns about the shape my nation will take if I do.
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