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WA Delegate: The Most Holy and Grand Empire of Christian Democrats (elected 206 days ago)

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Catholic is a community of Christians loyal to the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. We hold traditional Catholic beliefs including in the Trinity and the Immaculate Conception. With the Holy Spirit at our side, we are devoted to the Catholic faith.

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Next election: July 2014

High Councilors:
The Holy Commonwealth of Atrus | Term: Apr. '13 - Apr. '14
The Awesometopia of New Octopucta | Term: August '13 - August '14
The Theocracy of Fransmany | Term: Dec. '13 - Dec. '14

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Embassies: Vatican II, Vatican, Coalition of Catholic States, Saint Margaret Mary, Right to Life, Soli Deo gloria, Alliance of Catholic Nations, and Holy See of the Vatican.

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Regional Power: Very High

Catholic contains 36 nations, the 303rd most in the world.

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As a region, Catholic is ranked 4,641st in the world for Lowest Unemployment Rates.

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1.The Most Holy and Grand Empire of Christian DemocratsWA MemberInoffensive Centrist Democracy“Iesus via et veritas et vita est”
2.The United Kingdom of Murray landCapitalizt“Dia féachaint ar os cionn linn”
3.The Estados Unidos of SaraedMoralistic Democracy“El pueblo es el puño de dios”
4.The Catholic Republic of FlomanyWA MemberLiberal Democratic Socialists“In Deo Speramus”
5.The Majestic Corporate Empire of UtianovaWA MemberIron Fist Consumerists“Ad Maiorem Dei Gloriam!”
6.The Ideal City State of PlatonissimusCorporate Police State“You need to be ruled.”
7.The Neutral Commonwealth of Catholican CatholicaDemocratic Socialists“God is with us”
8.The Holy Empire of Mark_ShephardAuthoritarian Democracy“In Hoc Signo Vinces”
9.The Most Serene Republic of Citta di AquavivanoWA MemberMoralistic Democracy“Cædite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius”
10.The People's Republic of Republic of MakoWA MemberIron Fist Consumerists“Glory to Mako”
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The Holy Empire of Leominster wrote:Do you mean to say that the argument was going around in circles? If that's true, I must say that we weren't going around in circles. I was just repeating a point that you insisted on misunderstanding again and again.

No. I don't think anyone uses faith to do anything, because faith is not something that is to be used. It is something to have.

And since you seem to have "restarted" the argument towards a different direction, I will take this moment to clarify something to you. You have repeatedly attributed Christian beliefs to me when I never mentioned the fact that I am a Christian. This is because I am not a Christian. I am an atheist. I entered this debate to address your points which I do not agree with, and you assumed that because I disagree with you that I must be a Christian. Which makes no sense.

You feel I misunderstood you and I feel you misunderstood me. This is going around in circles.

Faith is used when one does not have evidence, if you had evidence, faith would not be needed.

You seemed to be arguing in favor of God, and when I said you would fall under the concept of agnostic, you said one could be an agnostic theist and an agnostic atheist, which would seem to suggest that you are calling yourself an agnostic theist, but yes, I was mistaken.
Though now I would have to point out that I do not think you use the word faith in the same way a religious person uses the word faith. People do not mean that they hope Jesus walked on water or that they trust the writer of the bible that said that Jesus walked on water, when they say they have faith Jesus walked on water.

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The United Secular States of Knights of Shame wrote:I think you are the stalker. I left for a long time, and you were apparently waiting for me to come back, I guess you have my old nations in your dossier and view it at least once a week.

Well yeah, you stay in your own regions and attack other beliefs with the support of like minded people. Not all do this, but I have noticed the regions you inhabit typically do this kind of thing. Again, I do not find what I do bad. I, alone, go to larger groups of people and talk to them.

Actually, I majored in Biology.

But here is a past problem that I have had with you. If I do not fit the script you have in mind for an atheist, you argue for the famous atheist's position so that I will fit the script. I can disagree with any atheist on anything. If I am so unequipped to defend myself, then debate me, not what you think my arguments should be.

I am ignorant about a lot of things, and I can admit that I do not know everything, but, I cannot help but notice you have not brought up even a strawman of my arguments. You just call me an ignorant fool and leave it at that.

You have fit the stalker role perfectly, as well as the fanatic. It is not me who uses multiple persona's to attack Christian regions, lying about who you are, so please give up the fake victimhood.

Majored in Biology??????? That's a pant load. LOL

I stay in my region where we have open debates, following actual debate rules where we expect people to bring a cogent argument. Which you have repeatedly been incapable of doing.
You attack Christians, and Christians only. You lack the testicular strength to go after Muslims for example, mainly because you know even less about them than you do about us.

If I do not fit the script you have in mind for an atheist, you argue for the famous atheist's position so that I will fit the script.
No, in reality I have addressed your poorly understood "points". Anyone reading my factbook of our "debates" can clearly see this.

If I am so unequipped to defend myself, then debate me, not what you think my arguments should be.
See above. I have debated you. You're an idiot. I would have a more intelligent conversation with my cat discussing Kierkegaard, drunk, but unlike you, the cat would "get it".

but, I cannot help but notice you have not brought up even a strawman of my arguments. You just call me an ignorant fool and leave it at that.
Yeah, LOL. It is you who brings up strawmen then demand we Christians defend beliefs we don't hold to.
It is you who changes definitions of words, sometimes in mid argument, then demands we defend the made up definition.
It is you who demands we adhere to a caricature of Christianity that doesn't fit reality.

You have no balls to defend your bizzaroland faith beliefs, all you do is go around in circles back to the same strawman you set up unsuspecting Christians to constantly defend. You are an intellectual coward whom I have already handed your azz to previously. Repeatedly.

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If memory serves, you believe God is needed to make the universe because something cannot come from nothing and the universe could not have always existed. You also believe biblical slavery was justified and that "atheistic naturalism" makes no sense.

Have I misunderstood or misrepresented you or is this correct?

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The United Secular States of Knights of Shame wrote:If memory serves, you believe God is needed to make the universe because something cannot come from nothing and the universe could not have always existed. You also believe biblical slavery was justified and that "atheistic naturalism" makes no sense.

Have I misunderstood or misrepresented you or is this correct?

LOL. Like I said, you only want to attack our Christian beliefs, because you know your faith beliefs are incoherent and cannot withstand scrutiny.
Intellectual cowardice.

I've already gone round, and round with you on these topics, like I said, you're too stupid, and completely unequipped to venture into any discussion involving any aspect of science. Fugeddabout philosophy, or history.

You are a liar MT.
Your have never sought a debate, you seek only to use a region for your soapbox for as long as you can before being ejected for inevitably exposing yourself as the Christophobic d**k you are.

You only have a couple of attack points, which you refuse to hear any evidence against that doesn't fit your straw-man narrative. You have been presented with a plethora of facts by some very learned people, in this region, and others.
Which you then blithely dismiss out of hand, then turn to another attack point.

You are a liar MT.
You try to catch some poor Christian who doesn't have any training in exegesis, apologetics, or good grounding in Church dogma. When you do catch them out you go into your childish "logic" and proceed to twist their meaning, because somehow a unskilled Christian is proof positive that there is no God, and the bible is hocum.
But, anyone who has even driven past the driveway of a university can tell you're full of crap. You know nothing.

You only have some talking points gleaned from internet atheist sites that on the surface to your untrained, ignorant "mind" seem like hot stuff.
To the rest of us who possess fully functioning frontal lobes, when we read your drivel we can see you have not spent 5 seconds doing any research into any of these topics.

I leave you with the words of the great Saint Yoda of Jedisalem- "Dumb you are, dumb shall you remain". Amen.

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Not being able to defend your belief in something is not evidence that something does not exists, but it is evidence that your belief in that something is unfounded. Doesn't it bother you that so many people believe what you consider the truth based on poor reasoning?

PK, every single defense and justification for religious claims for the past 2,300 years have not withstood scrutiny. It is not that God has been proven to not exist, it is that he has never been proven to exist in the first place, and thus disbelief is justified. If we applied the same logic to God that you use to come to the logical conclusion that faries do not exist, you would be an atheist.

Your argument for God seems to be that everything is fine tuned and only a God could explain the origin of the universe, so:
Can you give a reason why nothing is the default?
Why couldn't something always exist?
Can you give the way you determined absolute nothing or quasi-nothing could not cause the universe without being able to test the conditions before the universe existed (vacuumes do not work for this test).
Can you rule out the possibility of a cause of the universe other than God that we have not even considered yet (like so many other scientific discoveries)?

I don't think you, or anyone, can. The origins of the universe is an unknown at this time, and saying I do not know what caused it does not make my position weaker when you pretend to know things you do not know.

If you have evidence, I find it a travesty that you have not presented it to the world yet. You could end Atheism, cause billions of people to go to heaven when they would not have, end the trouble in the Middle East, and unite the planet under Catholocism, but use your vast knowledge and arguments to try and make one atheist look stupid in front of 36 people (likely less) on a nation sim on the internet.

Now, could you address what I have said like an adult?

If you want to debate someone from the Alliance of Catholic Nations, please move to the Alliance of Catholic Nations.

And the crowd erupts in a glorious roar of applause!

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The Most Holy and Grand Empire of Christian Democrats wrote:If you want to debate someone from the Alliance of Catholic Nations, please move to the Alliance of Catholic Nations.

Well, that's cause he can't. He's ban on site in our region. Banned seven times...so far. What was that about stalkers? LOL.
I've already addressed his latest points. I'll not do so again.

I bid you all adieu, Peace be with you all.

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I did ask you before at one point if you wanted to talk via PM and you said no (using more words).

I am free to talk anytime, so long as you bring some evidence that helps to validate a belief in God.

Good day to you sir.

Sorry for the mess mates.

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