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Nation of Quebec wrote:

Kasich has repeatedly said that he won't be anyone's VP pick, so I doubt he would agree to be Trump's running mate. It's hard to say what Trump will do, but I think he'll pick someone like Chris Christie. I think he'd want to have another attack dog bully beside him, but again, it's hard to say what he'd do since he is so unpredictable.
It doesn't matter who Trump picks though. If he wins the nomination, all the polls say that he'll hand the election over to Hillary. Even red states such as Arizona would go blue. Cruz wouldn't be much better in regards to polls and I think his running mate only hurts his chances.
Kaisch is the only one, according to polls, who consistently beats Hillary, although that's probably because most people outside of Ohio have no idea who he is. However, he has about as much chance of being his party's nominee as Bernie does with his.
You'd think the Republicans would have gotten their act together after 2012, but I guess they like losing.
I'm just glad I don't have to suffer the consequences of any of these clowns getting elected.

The question is why does Kasich stay in the race? There could be a secret deal with the party officials to keep Trump from getting the majority of delegates as well as hopes for the VP nomination (despite of what he says).

The officials of both parties reap what they´ve sown by pushing through completely indistinguishable candidates. Hillary, Obama, Romney, Bush, Clinton - same crap, different names; this goes especially for Republicans, since Sanders is really just a hardcore version of Obama/Hillary.

Trump isn´t the first (nor will be the last) candidate that scares the bejesus out of them. Remember Ron Paul or Pat Buchanan. It will be most instructive to see their reactions and dirty tricks in action. By denying the nomination to Trump, the Republicans risk losing droves of voters. They don´t really have anyone else to nominate this time, so I think that in the end they will settle for a deal - Trump gets his nomination and his running mate will be somebody "establishment friendly" like Kasich.

Nation of Quebec wrote:

Kasich has repeatedly said that he won't be anyone's VP pick, so I doubt he would agree to be Trump's running mate. It's hard to say what Trump will do, but I think he'll pick someone like Chris Christie. I think he'd want to have another attack dog bully beside him, but again, it's hard to say what he'd do since he is so unpredictable.
It doesn't matter who Trump picks though. If he wins the nomination, all the polls say that he'll hand the election over to Hillary. Even red states such as Arizona would go blue. Cruz wouldn't be much better in regards to polls and I think his running mate only hurts his chances.
Kaisch is the only one, according to polls, who consistently beats Hillary, although that's probably because most people outside of Ohio have no idea who he is. However, he has about as much chance of being his party's nominee as Bernie does with his.
You'd think the Republicans would have gotten their act together after 2012, but I guess they like losing.
I'm just glad I don't have to suffer the consequences of any of these clowns getting elected.

I believe this is how it'll go down.

1. Trump (god forbid), wins the nomination.
2. Hillary (oh crud) wins the election in a landslide
3. The RNC will rub it in the faces of those who wanted an outsider or a pseudo-outsider. "See, we told you that we need to only have moderates as our nominee, we lost independents and possible cross votes due to Trump/Cruz! New rule, only those who are favourable to Moderate Republicans and further left are allowed to run for the nomination."
4. Those who support Trump and Cruz will then turn on the RNC, possibly creating one or two split parties. Cruz would lead the Constitution/Law of the Land crowd and Trump will lead the more Non-interventionist but nationalist crowd. (Isolationist is not the same as Non-interventionist)
5. The Republican party will wind up going the way of the Whig party.

Zenzibar wrote:

We Canadians should never forget that we just elected a demagogue and sentenced ourselves to at least five years worth of economic disaster. Not even Trump would have the gall to fly his full cabinet all over the country to exclusive resorts like Algonquin and Kananaskis and then to bill the taxpayer $150K each time. I've never been to Algonquin but I have conferenced at Kananaskis and it is anything but a place to "connect with the common people". No matter what the US does in their upcoming election it pales in comparison to the toxic Trudeau mess we have dumped on ourselves.
As for the predictions, you're correct up till points #4 and #5. I suspect instead that a number of the US Republican primaries will quietly adopt something more similar to the "super-delegate" scheme that prevents mavericks from seizing the nomination of the Democratic Party. A mere change of a couple of states from winner-take-all to a quasi-proportional allocation would have prevented Trump from moving past Super Tuesday.
Cruz was also poorly advised to make a deal with Kasich and then to pre-nominate Carly Fiorina.

Only $150k? We have 1st Welfare Recipient blowing $35,000,000 a pop on vacations.

Zenzibar wrote:

We Canadians should never forget that we just elected a demagogue and sentenced ourselves to at least five years worth of economic disaster. Not even Trump would have the gall to fly his full cabinet all over the country to exclusive resorts like Algonquin and Kananaskis and then to bill the taxpayer $150K each time. I've never been to Algonquin but I have conferenced at Kananaskis and it is anything but a place to "connect with the common people". No matter what the US does in their upcoming election it pales in comparison to the toxic Trudeau mess we have dumped on ourselves.
As for the predictions, you're correct up till points #4 and #5. I suspect instead that a number of the US Republican primaries will quietly adopt something more similar to the "super-delegate" scheme that prevents mavericks from seizing the nomination of the Democratic Party. A mere change of a couple of states from winner-take-all to a quasi-proportional allocation would have prevented Trump from moving past Super Tuesday.
Cruz was also poorly advised to make a deal with Kasich and then to pre-nominate Carly Fiorina.

Gunshows wrote:

Only $150k? We have 1st Welfare Recipient blowing $35,000,000 a pop on vacations.

Don't worry, he'd write those off as business expenses. XD

Greetings.

Capitalist Producers wrote:

Probably. The party has been sliding that way for years.

This is a good thing.
The liberals who run the party, while representing about 70% of the professional politicians, only represent about 30% of the voters. Its this upside down relationship that has been steadily nailing the coffin together since Nixon. And why the P.T. Barnum of candidates has been able to outshine a true constitutionalist.
The average 9-5 walmart shopping heteronormative american, again representing a vast majority of the population, has become unhinged in their frustration at being marginalized by DC, and the TV.
Now, as you say, the Whig Party can reinvent itself as a new economic Abolition Party, supporting, and being supported by the walmart middle class, and the leadership can fade into obscurity, or join the Democrat Party where they should have been to start with.

Kaputer wrote:

For the past two months CNN has been the top rated cable news network. Why? Because they don't dedicate their entire primetime lineup (unlike Fox) to Trump.

What?
You doubt the objectivity of Trump News, and Trump & Friends. ;)

Kaputer wrote:

For the past two months CNN has been the top rated cable news network. Why? Because they don't dedicate their entire primetime lineup (unlike Fox) to Trump.

Turns out, it wasn't as simple as that. Scroll through these ratings:

http://www.adweek.com/tvnewser/category/ratings

At the end of the day people like Hannity have realize their jobs are gone soon.
Roger Ailes will either retire or be forced out after November by Fox execs.

The man that will take over will be either Fox's hard news director, of their soft new director (I forget both of their names, but I habe good connections in newscorp).

Both of these men especually don't like Hannity (who this cycle has literallly been Trump's corner bitch). Plus they are ready to replace O'reilly with Megyn Kelly followed by Greg Gutfeld.

And good connections is an old inside joke of mine. It just means what I read in the papers.

Kaputer wrote:

At the end of the day people like Hannity have realize their jobs are gone soon.
Roger Ailes will either retire or be forced out after November by Fox execs.
The man that will take over will be either Fox's hard news director, of their soft new director (I forget both of their names, but I habe good connections in newscorp).
Both of these men especually don't like Hannity (who this cycle has literallly been Trump's corner bitch). Plus they are ready to replace O'reilly with Megyn Kelly followed by Greg Gutfeld.

A couple of things you got wrong there. O'Reilly won't be going anywhere unless he chooses to. He is number one is his time slot and has been so for coming up on 20-some years. Since O'Reilly topped out at number one, he has never come in anything less than first in his time slot, even when guest hosts had the reigns.

Hannity is a bomb thrower. I don't much care for him. But he too is doing very well in his time slot. That fan base equals ratings points and ratings points equals money.

Murdock is not going to kill the golden goose nor allow anyone else to. Roger Ailes leaving Fox News is a fantasy of the Left. Even if Ailes chooses to retire, Murdock is not going to kill the golden goose. Hannity and O'Reilly will be there as long as they keep pulling in viewers. This is especially true as long as O'Reilly continues to not just win his time slot, but do so with embarrassing large margins compared to other cable news outlets.

Don't know who your source is, but I would be interested to hear who they arrived at the conclusions you reflected here.

Sucrati wrote:

Trump won the Indiana Primary. I guess we, as a nation, aren't getting enough narcissistic egomaniacs for President.
We're screwed.

Mark my words, Trump will be the Republican nominee and Hillary will beat him like a drum in November.

I honestly don't know what Cruz was thinking when he made that "deal" with Kaisch or when he picked another hardcore social conservative for his running mate despite the fact he's more than likely not going to be the nominee. Both moves sounded like pure desperation to me. Cruz is finished. Trump will win big in California, New Jersey, Oregon, and probably New Mexico. That will be enough him to win the delegates he needs.

Given their choices, I truly feel sorry for my American friends.

Sucrati wrote:

Barring prison, Hillary will be the next president.

You called it. We are screwed.