WA Delegate: The Clampdown of Kaputer (elected 40 days ago)
Founder: The Capitalist Alliance of The-CID
Regional Power: Extremely High
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The Healthiest Citizens in Capitalist Paradise
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As a region, Capitalist Paradise is ranked 15,208th in the world for Healthiest Citizens.
|1.||The Green Feminist Commune of Roxie Hart||Liberal Democratic Socialists||“If you can't be famous, be infamous.”|
|2.||The Peaceful Land-Area of GabeWorld||Liberal Democratic Socialists||“All creatures deserve happiness!”|
|3.||The Unitary State of The Realist Polities||Inoffensive Centrist Democracy||“Politics Has No Relation To Morals”|
|4.||The United Federation of Plisskenstan||Civil Rights Lovefest||“Pecunia non olet”|
|5.||The Kingdom of Hawkeston||Inoffensive Centrist Democracy||“Video et Taceo”|
|6.||The Empire of Equality to All||Capitalist Paradise||“Freedom to be your own person”|
|7.||The Dictatorship of Omnipotentus Immortaliti||Father Knows Best State||“Immortality is right around the corner.”|
|8.||The Republic of The African Alliance||Inoffensive Centrist Democracy||“Extremism in the defense of liberty is novice”|
|9.||The Sleeping Cats of Greybrow||Capitalizt||“How fortunate the man with none”|
|10.||The Incorporated Islands of Maudlnya||Corporate Bordello||“Selamatkan negara Kami!”|
- 10 minutes ago: The Free Land of Paashaasland arrived from The North Pacific.
- 2 hours ago: The Constitutional Monarchy of Voland United arrived from Balder.
- 2 hours ago: The Dictatorship of Anglicanes arrived from Balder.
- 3 hours ago: The Democratic Republic of Pongol of the region The Joint Democratic Nations proposed constructing embassies.
- 10 hours ago: The Republic of Loucks Nation ceased to exist.
- 10 hours ago: The Commonwealth of WD40 16 ceased to exist.
- 10 hours ago: The Republic of JustForYou ceased to exist.
- 12 hours ago: The Dictatorship of The Fifth German Reich departed this region for The New British Empire.
- 12 hours ago: The Taiwan of Brasilians of the region Taiwan proposed constructing embassies.
- 13 hours ago: The Holy Empire of Churchilstan arrived from Germany.
Capitalist Paradise Regional Message Board
Wake up Lubev.
Lubev, this isn't funny.
North Atlanti... I don't think it's Socialism per se, after all, the government wouldn't own the means of production. Which is a within the basis of Socialism. I don't honestly think that Socialism would exist in that type of society. I think that some form of economics that we have yet to discover would actually exist then.
What's up how's it going
Well I didn't even get a notice that my nation was going to be deleted. First time in this region
(FasterCat, I apologize in advance for the eye-rolls at this reference):
Lubev? What happened?
*dun dun dun-dun-dun DA DA DA!*
Even if goods are sufficiently devalued to an effective zero-cost, there is still value in services and intellectual property. Certainly in markets that could be described as necessary for sustaining life, all forms of exchange or control would be eliminated; the cost of living would be effectively zero. But in fields such ranging from the menial maintenance to the intellectual software engineering there is still place for more traditionalist markets as communism or capitalism.
Interestingly, such a society would be close to the Greek philosophy of Eudaimonia, or happiness in accordance with excellence, as little to no time would need to be spent ensuring the perpetuation of one's own life.
Hey Affy, on the forums you should hide or remove deleted quotes instead of still showing them on the list. It makes it a bit cluttered.
Thanks, I didn't even realize they were still visible.
Yes, they are.
Of course there will still be some holdouts for a while, but the main point is that there will be no more competition for any material wealth. I imagine the energy industry will probably be the only "Capitalist" holdout in such a society, but even that's not for certain, maybe we'll find a way to circumvent that pesky law of the conservation of matter and energy to gain as much energy as we need. Besides, when it comes to intellectual property, most everything would become a hobby instead of a job. Intellectual property might be used to earn wealth for sure, but what would that money be spent on in such a society? The Free Market of ideas will never go away as long as humankind remains sentient under a Classic Liberal government, but I doubt the effectiveness of a market without materialism. Besides, public services are already routed through the government anyway (We tried having privately-run fire-fighting services before, it didn't work out too well).
TL;DR: there might be value in intellectual property and services, but what kind of Capital would those services provide? You couldn't "buy" any material items with them anyway.
Greeks always were pretty advanced for their time, too bad they've fallen so far in Modern times.
P.S. think about this: What if instead of anything else, the "Post-Capitalist Era" ran on a Gift Economy? It's never really been feasible in the real world before, but in a society where the cost of living is zero, perhaps the type of economics that, to an extent, already exists in cyberculture could be extended to encompass the world in a sort of de facto way.