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The case smells like the vile "Buck V Bell" case - but there is a difference.

In "Buck V Bell" the woman had committed no crime and the operation was compulsory.

I wish there was an economy element to this game.

Reed audio

Phil face wrote:I wish there was an economy element to this game.

I mean wouldn't it be cool if there was and economy/money system in Nation States?

And Phil Face gets bounced for spamming this message board (and every other message board he comes to) with that rather message. My guess is that he is about to plug some add on banking system.

Phrontisteries

This week's poll is simple. The state of Texas discovered they issued the personalized license plate 370H55V.[1] When turned upside down it sort of reads A**HOLE. Now we all know the State of Texas is not going to issue a personalized plate that spells that phrase out.

But is it over the edge to recall and ban this plate? You decide. The poll is up.

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[1] http://fox13now.com/2015/04/09/is-this-offensive-dmv-revoking-mans-license-plate-after-finding-hidden-message/

Ello just came here from the rejected realms

Tobenia wrote:Ello just came here from the rejected realms

Why were you rejected?

Xyanth wrote:Why were you rejected?

Don't know really just *poof* and I found you guys

Tobenia wrote:Don't know really just *poof* and I found you guys

It happens. I wonder if they got raided.

In other news Ted Cruz is starting to look better and better to me. Check out the thoughts on gun control he gave in the aftermath of Sandy Hook.

https://youtu.be/YNRc9mJKYa4

Looking really good...

Phrontisteries

This week's poll comes from a the felony arrest of an eighth grader for computer hacking. His sin? He hacked into a teacher's computer by shoulder surfing the password (the teacher's last name) and then replacing the screen saver with an image of two men kissing. He did access a computer that had the Florida 2014 standardized test, but he wasn't interested in the test and didn't access it.[1]

There is no evidence the kid did anything more then place the picture on the teacher's computer. The boy freely admits doing that. There is no evidence the kid did anything else.

Alas the felony charge in Florida means the 14 year old will be charged as an adult. That means if convicted he will have a brand new record that will follow him all the rest of his days.

Nothing in the story addresses the unbelievably bad security on the part of the school or the teacher. While blaming the victim is not my bag, we are talking about a middle school filled with kids that are more computer savvy then most of the teachers. There has to be some responsibility in there somewhere.

So... is this over reaction, just about right or not enough? The poll is up.

(To be completely honest here, based on my high school experience, if I were in school today there is no way I would get out with less then a couple prison sentences.)

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[1] http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/04/13/florida-8th-grader-plays-prank-on-teacher-gets-arrested/

The problem with more of an economic element to the game is that it would be programmed by big government Keynesians - most people (including most people who run games) reflect the education system, and the education system (most of schools and colleges) is basically a collectivist indoctrination machine.

As for the child who messed about with his teacher's computer - give him a spanking.

Oh, I forgot, teachers are not allowed to do that any more - so the police and courts have to be involved instead..... (the modern system is crazy).

Phrontisteries, Xyanth, Conglomerate of iron, and The autocratic republic of azerty

The autocratic republic of azerty

Another example of stupid millennials. I hate my generation. Goddammit, I'm only 17 and already sound like an old person!

Harmless prank, school should scold him, parents should spank him, or vice-versa, und so weiter, und so fort.
But gov't should not get involved, local, state, or federal. Geez.
You can't spank a child, but you can charge him as an adult in a court of law? WTF!

The autocratic republic of azerty wrote:You can't spank a child, but you can charge him as an adult in a court of law? WTF!

Yeah, funny how that works, isn't it?

Conglomerate of iron

Xyanth wrote:Yeah, funny how that works, isn't it?

I don't even support physical punishment, yet I agree. A spanking is a hell of a lot better than f***ing their life up permanently in some statist, monopolized, "justice" system.

Conglomerate of iron wrote:I don't even support physical punishment, yet I agree. A spanking is a hell of a lot better than f***ing their life up permanently in some statist, monopolized, "justice" system.

Would you legally restrict others from using corporal punishment on their own children?

Conglomerate of iron

Xyanth wrote:Would you legally restrict others from using corporal punishment on their own children?

As an anarchist, I look at it this way:

You have a right to take away privileges from children. All their toys and electronics. Meals at times. All that would teach a kid a real lesson.

However, it is wrong to hit kids. There is a difference between abuse and a spanking, of course, and I will not advocate state force in this situation. However, if a child wants to leave their parents over a spanking for new parents, I support that. They, particularly when 12+ can begin making more decisions on their own.

Conglomerate of iron wrote:However, if a child wants to leave their parents over a spanking for new parents, I support that. They, particularly when 12+ can begin making more decisions on their own.

I'm guessing that you don't have kids. As someone that has had kids, I can assure you that every teen thinks any grass is greener then the grass under their feet. I've raised several of my own and several more that were not mine. It is a universal rule.

What you are proposing would go along way toward accomplishing your dream of anarchism. But the unintended consequences of your proposal are almost too many to list here.

Conglomerate of iron

Xyanth wrote:I'm guessing that you don't have kids. As someone that has had kids, I can assure you that every teen thinks any grass is greener then the grass under their feet. I've raised several of my own and several more that were not mine. It is a universal rule.

What you are proposing would go along way toward accomplishing your dream of anarchism. But the unintended consequences of your proposal are almost too many to list here.

I am a father. Have been for a while. Kids can be ungrateful. But they should learn how the world works. You cannot paradatize off others, but you have the freedom to go where you please.

The autocratic republic of azerty

Xyanth makes a very good point. Children are prone to misinterpret discipline as abuse. I know that as a child, I certainly thought that being banished to my room for an hour was the worst thing ever. Please keep in mind that children and adults are fundamentally different creatures, biologically and especially neurologically.

Your claim that children can start making certain executive decisions at 12+ is true but misleading. The prefrontal cortex, responsible for executive rational decision making, does not finish development until one's mid- to late-20's. A 12-year-old cannot go through the pros and cons of running away from home reasonably.

Phrontisteries

Free market paradise

I don't agree with teachers spanking children. Parents can. Other people can't.

Free market paradise wrote:I don't agree with teachers spanking children. Parents can. Other people can't.

I'm good with that.

The autocratic republic of azerty

Free market paradise wrote:I don't agree with teachers spanking children. Parents can. Other people can't.

I agree. I think I may have accidentally implied that in one of my posts. What would you think of a child's and its parents' entering into a contract with a school that stipulates that the school's teachers may enact corporal punishment on the child?

The autocratic republic of azerty wrote:I agree. I think I may have accidentally implied that in one of my posts. What would you think of a child's and its parents' entering into a contract with a school that stipulates that the school's teachers may enact corporal punishment on the child?

If the parents give their blessing, then have at it.

Greaterargos

hi

Greaterargos wrote:hi

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