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New china and north india wrote:Also, how can any form of Freedom or Civil Rights be excessive?

Well if Freedom/Civil Rights are Excessive that basically means EVERYTHING is legal... EVERYTHING! Murder, Robbery, etc. You become an anarchy. Although they give a more indepth analysis
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Brandeis wrote:The game actually makes a few good points about that. In any real government all citizens give up a few of their rights. The right to kill others, the right to steal from others, basically any right to harm another human being for selfish gain. If we were all living without government, nobody would be particularly surprised if people were exercising those rights -they basically are subcategories of a right to life at that point - but to coexist as citizens we can't have them or there would be no trust. That's why too many civil rights end up with a Somalia style anarchy in your nation.
I took an interesting college course or two about this. A lot of philosophers tried to figure out what makes a good government. Especially when their nation was experiencig a civil war.

My thoughts on a good government are getting as close as possible to Excessive without quite going past it (like around 90% or so), and free waterpark usage.
-Sweeps

Kleynst, New china and north india, and Serumaninho

Ambipom wrote:My thoughts on a good government are getting as close as possible to Excessive without quite going past it (like around 90% or so), and free waterpark usage.
-Sweeps

Make it an indoor waterpark and I'll make arrangements to move there. It's hot outside. I get sunburns.

Sorya and Ambipom

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Brandeis wrote:Make it an indoor waterpark and I'll make arrangements to move there. It's hot outside. I get sunburns.

I think our South Pole has one. However taxes are at 98.3%, so maybe not.

Hey
I decided to move my third Nation here

Anollasia and Democratic peoples republic of the us

Bad Dream

I swear I saw a priest broken,
Robes ripped, tunic stolen,
Face swollen, broken toes,
Blood dripping from his nose.
The church was burning, alter sacked,
Empty tabernacle cracked.
It must have been some awful scheme.
It must have been a bad dream.

I swear I heard a baby crying,
A poor man in the alley dying,
A woman begging to let her be,
A guilty saying, "It wasn't me."
I heard the sounds of bombs blasting,
The stomachs of the people fasting.
It must have been some awful scheme.
It must have been a bad dream.

I swear I heard unanswered prayers
Of godless men who speak in swears.
I heard the woesome, pitied sighs
Of those who speak only in lies.
I heard a tear drop with a sniff
Into a martyr's handkerchief.
It must have been some awful scheme.
It must have been a bad dream.

I swear I felt the fires blaze,
And the hairs on the back of a neck raise.
I felt the drips of 10,000 tears
Of righteous men who faced their fears.
I felt the force of a bomb explode,
As moral compasses did erode.
It must have been some awful scheme.
It must have been a bad dream.

I swear I tasted smoke of the battlefield
Fired from a man behind a shield
Who killed a man to change the tide
And purge all that have God on their side.
I tasted the bitterness in his heart
That was divided into many parts.
It must have been some awful scheme.
It must have been a bad dream.

I swear I felt the water pouring.
I swear I heard the thunder roaring.
I swear I smelled the smoke burning.
I swear I saw their bodies turning.
I swear I tasted vanity
For those who just sought sanity.
It must have been some awful scheme.
It must have been a bad dream.

I never saw sulphur and fire
Rain down on those of bad desire.
I never heard an answered plea
Of someone begging on his knee.
I never felt a warm invite
From those who didn't want a fight.
It must have been some awful scheme.
It must have been a bad dream.

I swear I only heard silence
From those who sought to end the violence.
I heard only a web of lies
From those supposed to prophesize.
I heard not a drop of blood
From those who could have stopped the flood.
It must have been some awful scheme.
It must have been a bad dream.

I swear I saw them wearing masks
Who were trusted with the greatest tasks.
I saw them turning a blind eye,
As others were being left to die.
I couldn't see, because my eyes could not
Make sense of this big, twisted knot.
It must have been some awful scheme.
It must have been a bad dream.

I smelled corruption in the air,
But no one else seemed to be aware.
I sensed the emptiness of their souls,
Which were all filled with gaping holes.
I sniffed them out from where they'd been,
But they didn't know it was a sin.
It must have been some awful scheme.
It must have been a bad dream.

I swear I saw a smoke cloud
Cover the Earth like a shroud.
I saw the air smogged by pollution,
Children polluted by prostitution.
I saw a man with a needle plugged
Get shriveled like a salted slug.
It must have been some awful scheme.
It must have been a bad dream.

I felt a chill go down my spine,
As I tasted their beer and smelled their wine.
By their alcoholism, I was soaked.
By their gluttony, I was choked.
I smelled their smoke and suffocated,
As they aborted life, which they'd confiscated.
It must have been some awful scheme.
It must have been a bad dream.

I must be suffering from some delusion.
This must be some horrible illusion.
I must be plagued by some spirit.
These things can't be true, or so I fear it.
These things I heard, and saw, and knew,
Make them a lie! They can't be true.
I swear it's just some awful scheme.
Please, let it be a bad dream.

Anollasia, Socialist States of East Antarctica, Creeptopia, Sorya, and 3 othersAdromedan, Serlone, and The united germanic people

Regional Poll: "Do you think Climate Change is happening?"

Let's welcome our host-Bill Nye the Science Guy!

(muffled "Bill! Bill! Bill!" in distance)

Anollasia, Slowmeadow, Animal Farmerica, Sorya, and 3 othersAmbipom, The united germanic people, and Southern kavinsky

Esfirine wrote:Regional Poll: "Do you think Climate Change is happening?"
Let's welcome our host-Bill Nye the Science Guy!
(muffled "Bill! Bill! Bill!" in distance)

My in-game character says no, my IRL persona says yes...

Democratic peoples republic of the us, Sorya, The united germanic people, and Eoin island

Animal Farmerica wrote:My in-game character says no, my IRL persona says yes...

BE FREE, IRL PERSONA, BE FREE

Southern kavinsky

Norevind wrote:Does anyone have any tips for creating a nation with well-balanced civil rights, economy, and political freedom?

Libertarianism is a pretty good start for that. Try to get your nation to a New York Times Democracy status by promoting business and social development, unless they begin hurting one another. Play your cards right and you've got yourself a pretty good nation; otherwise you'll be facing a serious economic downturn

Norevind

A Little Bit of Your Love

In the street, Mercutio
Walked with the gloomy Romeo.
Romeo pulled me aside.
He said he wasn't satisfied
With this girl he's been thinking of.
I think he just wanted a little bit of your love.

Little red riding hood,
On the porch of her grandmother's stood.
She said, "Grandmama, your teeth are oh, so swift."
The wolf said, "Better to eat you with,"
As he wore her grandma's velvet glove.
Little red just needed a little bit of your love.

Hanzel and Grettle, they were trapped
By a witch whose lips were chapped,
But they were smart and left a breadcrumb trail.
Then, before it all went stale,
The witch into the oven they did shove,
All the time, aided by a little bit of your love.

Goldilocks tried out some chairs,
And beds, and food of the three bears,
And she thought that in their house she'd stay.
But the bears came back one day,
And Goldilocks jumped out of the window above,
But she landed softly, thanks to a bit of your love.

Judas cried out, "Mercy me!"
As he laced a rope up the hanging tree,
And the spirit begged him to repent.
But the hanging branch was bent,
And thirty pieces of silver fell down to the mud,
Where they were swallowed by the earth and a bit of your love.

Rumpelstiltskin wove his gold
For a woman who was foretold
That he'd take her child, if again he came.
But this woman guessed his name,
And he had his gold still, but the thing he was lacking of
Was that Rumpelstiltskin was still looking for a bit of your love.

Cinderella sang her song,
And made her chores take half as long,
And then she tried on that white, magic sash.
All the dirt and all the ash
Floated off of her as calmly as a dove.
Her fairy godmother must have had a little bit of your love.

"Suicide must be made illegal, and only the ultimate punishment will deter people from this sin." LOL
how you going to stop people from suiciding?

New china and north india

Lingtonia wrote:"Suicide must be made illegal, and only the ultimate punishment will deter people from this sin." LOL how you going to stop people from suiciding?

Protective bubbles around everyone!

Animal Farmerica, Sorya, New china and north india, Greater Brazilistan, and 1 otherLingtonia

Lingtonia wrote:"Suicide must be made illegal, and only the ultimate punishment will deter people from this sin." LOL
how you going to stop people from suiciding?

Extensive government surveillance! Big brother is watching you. Big brother is always watching.

Animal Farmerica, Sorya, New china and north india, Greater Brazilistan, and 3 othersKharbydriss, Slugville, and Lingtonia

The united germanic people

I made a new flag!I worked really hard on it :)

Spiritbw, Isles de taylor, Democratic peoples republic of the us, Hellazar, and 7 othersKleynst, Sorya, Kharbydriss, Slugville, Brandeis, Lingtonia, and Somnia vagus

Lowering taxes is a hard job... my Civil Rights are falling, my Political Freedoms are falling, my Crime is rising... I think it is safe to say Slugville is in decline... but we won 3 - 0 so I'm happy.

Anollasia, Sorya, and Brandeis

Slugville wrote:Lowering taxes is a hard job... my Civil Rights are falling, my Political Freedoms are falling, my Crime is rising... I think it is safe to say Slugville is in decline... but we won 3 - 0 so I'm happy.

You don't have to lower your taxes. Look how happy my citizens are paying 99.5% of their income to the government!

Anollasia, Spiritbw, Anfuhrer, Sorya, and 2 othersNew china and north india, and Serumaninho

Hellazar wrote:You don't have to lower your taxes. Look how happy my citizens are paying 99.5% of their income to the government!

Yeah, it's not so bad.

Isles de taylor

The united germanic people wrote:I made a new flag!I worked really hard on it :)

Looks good. :)

Schiltzberg wrote:A Little Bit of Your Love
In the street, Mercutio
Walked with the gloomy Romeo.
Romeo pulled me aside.
He said he wasn't satisfied
With this girl he's been thinking of.
I think he just wanted a little bit of your love.
Little red riding hood,
On the porch of her grandmother's stood.
She said, "Grandmama, your teeth are oh, so swift."
The wolf said, "Better to eat you with,"
As he wore her grandma's velvet glove.
Little red just needed a little bit of your love.
Hanzel and Grettle, they were trapped
By a witch whose lips were chapped,
But they were smart and left a breadcrumb trail.
Then, before it all went stale,
The witch into the oven they did shove,
All the time, aided by a little bit of your love.
Goldilocks tried out some chairs,
And beds, and food of the three bears,
And she thought that in their house she'd stay.
But the bears came back one day,
And Goldilocks jumped out of the window above,
But she landed softly, thanks to a bit of your love.
Judas cried out, "Mercy me!"
As he laced a rope up the hanging tree,
And the spirit begged him to repent.
But the hanging branch was bent,
And thirty pieces of silver fell down to the mud,
Where they were swallowed by the earth and a bit of your love.
Rumpelstiltskin wove his gold
For a woman who was foretold
That he'd take her child, if again he came.
But this woman guessed his name,
And he had his gold still, but the thing he was lacking of
Was that Rumpelstiltskin was still looking for a bit of your love.
Cinderella sang her song,
And made her chores take half as long,
And then she tried on that white, magic sash.
All the dirt and all the ash
Floated off of her as calmly as a dove.
Her fairy godmother must have had a little bit of your love.

k den.

Hellazar wrote: You don't have to lower your taxes. Look how happy my citizens are paying 99.5% of their income to the government!

Yeah but I don't really like when my nation has a bigger income tax than my home country. And besides, I get lotsa banners that way!

Brandeis

Taxes are evil. My civil rights are tanking as I desperately attempt to lower my taxes back to a reasonable level. About 5% or so.

West cordonia wrote:k den.

Yes, sir

My tax rate is a bit on the high side I think, but then again my average incomes for Poor, Rich and in general are all above average, as is the standard of living. To be honest things are looking pretty good.

Folks generally live to ripe old ages unless they wander off in the great outdoors without a map and are above average in their health on average. Education is free for all ages and I have one of the least Politically apathetic countries in the world. Crime is low, the environment is healthy, and while we aren't the most humorous we are some of the most compassionate and inclusive folks around. Both the economy and scientific progress continues to rise.

Long and short, all things considered, I think my country is doing pretty good.

Siuts, Adromedan, Greater Brazilistan, and Serumaninho

The tasmanian islands

Yeah, I gave up on trying to lower my tax rates a long time ago. But I honestly don't know how many of my citizens are paying tax when my employment is so low. Oh right, I made robots citizens!

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