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Slithen wrote:(1)Literally only Americans go on and on like this about freedom, rights and protecting themselves.
(2)The rest of us have all of those rights, (3)yet, don't have to go to such obnoxious and extreme lengths.
(4)Also: The difference between an Assault Rifle, a truck and a spoon is that the Assault Rifle IS SOLELY DESIGNED FOR KILLING.
How does that convenient fact get overlooked?

(1) Not an argument.
(2) How many western nations have a right to citizen ownership of guns?.
(3) Insults do not an argument make.
(4) So what guns have you designed?

Hello world I'm Back.

Koopa-toadaria

BREXIT?

HAPPY BREXIT, Y'ALL. Start buying up them put options! Let's hope China devalues its currency again and I make bank. Meanwhile, gold is up. Ha!

Also, I see some nonsense about an "assault rifle". You should know that that is merely a superficial classification used to describe the look of a weapon. Some states loosely defined it by referring to numbers of attachments, hypothetical magazine capacity, et cetera. That's bunk. It means nothing. Don't throw that term around. It makes you look stupid. If you want to talk gun control without talking about a complete ban, talk about limiting magazine capacity. Civilians don't need 30-round mags or drum mags or any such bullshit.

Greater felter

Koopa-toadaria

brexit sucks

Mexregiona

Brexit is great.

For me.

Greater felter

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A mean old man wrote:Brexit is great.
For me.

Now Britain has an independence day!

Southerlands wrote:

Why would anything happen? As I recall that guy couldn't have bought a gun, he took his mothers. The only "change" that could logically come from that would be banning sales of guns to people who are related to those who cannot buy guns.
Seems rare one of these incidents happens when the proposal that comes after has anything to do with the incident except that it relates to a gun (sometimes not even the one the shooter uses).
Media sucks.

I think it's very relevant. The fact little kids died should have been enough for reform of all kinds. It is ok for kids to die because it wasn't his gun? Alright then. Our system is a joke in so many ways.

Ponyo

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Todd McCloud wrote:I am beyond tired of individuals dancing on the graves of children of all people in order to push their agendas. It is beyond sickening to see these poor kids being used as pawns in some kind of chess game aimed at taking rights away from the common citizen.

Yes, dead kids are still not enough to make it harder for crazy idiotic retarded Americans who cant get a basic education and thinj ignorance is bliss to ger guns cause hey population control and the thrill of getting to kill stuff. Lol lets just go sweden but better, give everyone a gun, but put no regulation on ammo. I bet we would jave the country stable after a few thousand homocides.

Ponyo

Post self-deleted by Todd McCloud.

Slithen wrote:Literally only Americans go on and on like this about freedom, rights and protecting themselves.
The rest of us have all of those rights, yet, don't have to go to such obnoxious and extreme lengths.
Also: The difference between an Assault Rifle, a truck and a spoon is that the Assault Rifle IS SOLELY DESIGNED FOR KILLING.
How does that convenient fact get overlooked?

Because it is not relevant. It doesn't matter what something is designed for. It matters only how humans use it. And darned straight we're not going to sit on our butts and take losing our freedoms. And you cannot speak for the "rest of us" as no, many countries do NOT enjoy the same rights. Not even close.

Ohgnam

Todd McCloud wrote:I am beyond tired of individuals dancing on the graves of children of all people in order to push their agendas. It is beyond sickening to see these poor kids being used as pawns in some kind of chess game aimed at taking rights away from the common citizen.

Same. It's not just guns though, it's everything. Every single bad news story ends with a new legislative proposal and generally the Dems trying to give the state more power.

The party that rightly beat GW Bush's party in large part because of the issue of protecting due process rights and fighting the Patriot Act, sat in the floor last week and threw a tantrum because they couldn't pass the patriot act with guns.

Again, not because it was actually relevant to what happened most recently since his investigation was cleared, but because the state must do *something* because the state can answer every problem. Always.

Hervasam and Ohgnam

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Southerlands wrote:Same. It's not just guns though, it's everything. Every single bad news story ends with a new legislative proposal and generally the Dems trying to give the state more power.
The party that rightly beat GW Bush's party in large part because of the issue of protecting due process rights and fighting the Patriot Act, sat in the floor last week and threw a tantrum because they couldn't pass the patriot act with guns.
Again, not because it was actually relevant to what happened most recently since his investigation was cleared, but because the state must do *something* because the state can answer every problem. Always.

At least something happened. Its stupid how the nation just shruga its shoulders. It shouldnt happen, it shouldnt be so easy. I could go to my local elementary school and kill everyone and nothing would cga.ge. thats ok? Because gun rights need to be open to everyone always? I dont understand how gun rights should always trump safety. Gang viole.ce, domestic terrorism, robbery and all that crap. We need a intolerant government that cracks down on it with the strictest means while making guns hard as hell to get but still available for people who need the ability to murder incase x,y,z occur.

Tethehalla wrote:At least something happened. Its stupid how the nation just shruga its shoulders. It shouldnt happen, it shouldnt be so easy. I could go to my local elementary school and kill everyone and nothing would cga.ge. thats ok? Because gun rights need to be open to everyone always? I dont understand how gun rights should always trump safety. Gang viole.ce, domestic terrorism, robbery and all that crap. We need a intolerant government that cracks down on it with the strictest means while making guns hard as hell to get but still available for people who need the ability to murder incase x,y,z occur.

So.. You think robberies won't happen without guns? Have you seen the internet videos where criminals use rocks to just beat people into submission? They don't even bother to say "give me all your money". They just run up, club their victim, take the money and run. That's so much better! So let's throw our rights and common sense out the window because guns kill. Guns don't kill. People do. Which, if you go to your local school and KILL people, you're doing the killing. Not a gun. Not a rock. Not a bomb. Not a knife. Not a sword. Not even a spoon. The weapon of choice doesn't even matter. Our government is vilifying guns, and people such as yourself are eating it up, because a disarmed society is an enslaved society. If we are unable to defend ourselves from common criminals, we cannot defend ourselves from radial religious groups nor our own government. Like it or not, the government is power hungry and they'd rather sir on their lazy asses and make us work for them. Best part is, We can't get to the poles fast enough to vote these charlatans in!!! And they love that. And when they win, we lose. Same with there Muslim terrorists. They are hell bent. I mean HELL BENT on our deaths. That might not scare you enough to take up arms and run to defend this country but it does me. And I conceal carry almost everywhere when I'm off duty. And I'll defend each and every person around me, along with myself, should something happen. Whether it's a robber, mad man, terrorist or my own government, I'm ready to defend. I don't live in a world of peaches and ice cream and how dare everyone upset my reality of rainbows and unicorns. I live in a real world where small time robbers, thugs, gang bangers, crazy people, terrorists and bad government officials exist. I live in a world of bad people. Bad people who want to see my fellow Americans die or get hurt.

Ohgnam

-saturnalia- wrote:So..

Shortened to save space. I didnt say ban guns, I said increase restrictions. I didnt say robberies wouldn't occur. But I think our justice system could be way way way harsher when deadly weapons or threat of death is placed upon victim. Extreme punishment. And second I'm not ignorant to the threat of our of nation attacks but step up immigrant checks and keep tabs on em for awhile to make sure new americans are cool. And we have the largest military they can handle war for me. Now if we get civil war and the military turns which is highly likely then I am fked with no gun. I believe in the right to carry, just not everyone and that needs to really happen. And robberies occur due to disparity in the public either due to the individual or the system. Things could be way better for the people in America so that we could all have a nice easy living but wealth for all is negative. In a side note I appreciate your willingness to defend us and our country. Thank you because thats a correct example of gun ownership.

We don't need to increase restrictions. The Orlando guy went through FBI checks (and fun fact, FBI wasn't saved in my phone as a legitimate word/acronym.. I had to add it, I find that funny). He carried a weapon for his job, as do I. That doesn't mean that I'm a bad guy or he wasn't. It means that bad people are going to get through any restrictions put in the way to carry out their deadly schemes. It means criminals already intend to commit crimes so the restrictions we have and the potential for more restrictions will only affect the law abiding citizens of this nation. It will only leave us unprotected. The government has over a hundred years of bad choices and showing us that their red tape only makes things worse for good people. The government isn't able or willing to protect us like it's our mom and dad. That's our job. It takes the police several minutes to respond. It would take the average, well trained citizen seconds to protect themselves. And heaven forbid the day the government has us fooled enough to really take away our power and completely roll over us. It's sad enough that the government has so much of our society fooled. Fun fact, most robberies occur because the criminal is looking to get money to feed their addictions. Not because of an uneven wealth distribution. And I really find myself laughing at the thought of wealth distribution. I feel as if too many people look at the rich and are offended that they aren't getting their fair share, which is laughable because we aren't entitled to a share of wealth. We're entitled to make our own. To work smart, to work hard and earn our own wealth. And the hippy part of me says we aren't rich when we have a ton of wealth. We're rich when we have friends we love, family we love, hobbies we love and a job we love. But that's that rainbows and unicorns crap that really is almost impossible to find. Rainbows are rare and unicorns aren't really real. Not the ones you find in fairytales anyway. Lol. Anyway, thank you for the last comment. I mean what I said. I love my work. I am ashamed of my government and I don't agree with many of my fellow citizens but I'll stand up to protect them Abby day. Any time.

Enslaved bigtopians, Ohgnam, and Maldrillia

Any day. My phone's autocorrect is sneaky. Lol

Lol I love this thread, it just encourages nihilism imo.

It encourages facepalms.

Post by Soneupriepoliteb suppressed by a moderator.

Khoveni wrote:what's the highest political freedom can go to? mines at widely abused rn

nevermind my political freedom fell because i instated trial by combat

Jkandria and Ktox

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