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The Candy Of Bottles wrote:Yep- 'Independet' should be 'Independent'. Your missing the last 'n'. Shame it's not part of the pretitle, so your stuck with it.

Fortunately, the pretitle is also misspelled.

An equal but opposite mistake is in your post, too.

Trotterdam wrote:Fortunately, the pretitle is also misspelled.
An equal but opposite mistake is in your post, too.

Oh. Duh, 'you're', not 'your'...

Our town renewed

Magical equestria wrote:Welcome, erm, advisor Starlight Glimmer! Our apologies if that's not the correct form of address; our Minister of Protocol informs us she can't find where the term "advisor" fits on the Honors list.

I was looking for a title that meant that I lead the ponies while also implying that I was no better than any of them.
It's hard to find a word that specific.

Our town renewed wrote:I was looking for a title that meant that I lead the ponies while also implying that I was no better than any of them.
It's hard to find a word that specific.

"Princess".

It derives from Latin "princeps", meaning "first", evoking the Roman concept of a "first among equals".

Our town renewed

Trotterdam wrote:"Frincess".
It derives from Latin "princeps", meaning "first", evoking the Roman concept of a "first among equals".

((Yeah, but "first citizen" (princeps civitatis) was also too "leader-y".
I don't really know what I'm going for.))

Magical equestria

Our town renewed wrote:((Yeah, but "first citizen" (princeps civitatis) was also too "leader-y".
I don't really know what I'm going for.))

Actually, "First Citizen" works pretty well. Nice republican term for folks who want to abolish the idea of a class system. Napoleon used it before he went all Emperor-y on everyone.

Post self-deleted by Islamic terrorist cats.

I'm not dead.

Arexia wrote:I'm not dead.

Ok.

Arexia wrote:I'm not dead.

Have you ever truly been dead?

Islamic terrorist cats

I'm going to watch the next episode now, so here's my last thoughts before I've actually seen it.

Overanalytical fans have been commenting for a while about how pony society is rather skewed towards females, with all of the alicorns and Element-bearers and most other prominent characters being mares. Still, when you're just talking about eight characters or so (the main 6 + Celestia and Luna), it's somewhat believable, if improbable, that there's no reason there couldn't be any stallions among them, and there just happened to not be any.

In fact, there was only one episode on the show that I felt was explicitly sexist: Sisterhooves Social - why aren't brothers allowed to compete?

And now it turns out they're airing an episode named Brotherhooves Social, so I'm curious where they'll take it. The last episode mentioned Applejack and Rarity having to miss the Sisterhooves Social (because deus ex mapina), so combined with the episode name, I'd say Apple Bloom/Big Macintosh character development is pretty likely. Not sure what role Sweetie Belle will get to play in this - as far as we know, she and Rarity don't have any other siblings.

Well, I'm off!

...And then it turns out that Sweetie Belle is almost completely absent from the episode, and instead it's Rainbow Dash and Scootaloo that stole the show. (Funny how ponies are a lot more competent when they're not the ones scheduled to learn a friendship lesson this episode.)

Our town renewed

Arexia wrote:I'm not dead.

Hi undead person! You're just in time, a lot of your kin will be coming in a few weeks!

Our town renewed wrote:Hi undead person! You're just in time, a lot of your kin will be coming in a few weeks!

Noo!
I want to be a special snowflake.

Arcanium of mars

Trotterdam wrote:...And then it turns out that Sweetie Belle is almost completely absent from the episode, and instead it's Rainbow Dash and Scootaloo that stole the show. (Funny how ponies are a lot more competent when they're not the ones scheduled to learn a friendship lesson this episode.)

As great and funny the episode was, the only down side is when you go back and watch the last weeks episode "Made in Manehatten" and ask yourself, "Why did Hasbro have to make Twilight act all bored and instead go to watch the Sister Hooves Social?!"

Arcanium of mars

Wow, someone wants to Condemn the WA? What?

What I don't understand is why it hasn't occured to Twilight that if she wants to tour the world so badly, she can go visit places without being on a quest to save Equestria.

Seriously. There's stuff she's excited to see Griffonstone or Manehattan? Just go there. Doesn't have a be a special occasion. Bring some friends if you want (if the other main characters can't come, try asking Twinkleshine and co. - remember them?).

Unless she's worried about leaving the deus ex mapina unattended in Ponyville. Because not having your life controlled by some unfathomable abstract force that plays you like a puppet would be too horrible to contemplate.

Maxim heavy industries and The Vines

Our town renewed wrote:Hi undead person! You're just in time, a lot of your kin will be coming in a few weeks!

That reminds me: I'll need to get that zombie tracker up and running again.

Our town renewed

Trotterdam wrote:What I don't understand is why it hasn't occured to Twilight that if she wants to tour the world so badly, she can go visit places without being on a quest to save Equestria.
Seriously. There's stuff she's excited to see Griffonstone or Manehattan? Just go there. Doesn't have a be a special occasion. Bring some friends if you want (if the other main characters can't come, try asking Twinkleshine and co. - remember them?).
Unless she's worried about leaving the deus ex mapina unattended in Ponyville. Because not having your life controlled by some unfathomable abstract force that plays you like a puppet would be too horrible to contemplate.

The thing is, she is very intent on following rules. She sees the Map as a higher power than her, and as such has to abide by its decrees.
I think Silver Quill (or joshscorcher [all commentators sound the same to me]) stated it best, but I can't use YouTube on this computer to get the exact quote.

Islamic terrorist cats

So a couple guys on 4chan started a "piss for equality" hashtag as a joke and now people are actually pissing themselves for it.

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12115719_1022702207750992_2658984819789818849_n.png?oh=65c0851462611b2e4c99ded335fb1cbb&oe=5694C040

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Trotterdam wrote:What I don't understand is why it hasn't occured to Twilight that if she wants to tour the world so badly, she can go visit places without being on a quest to save Equestria.
Seriously. There's stuff she's excited to see Griffonstone or Manehattan? Just go there. Doesn't have a be a special occasion. Bring some friends if you want (if the other main characters can't come, try asking Twinkleshine and co. - remember them?).
Unless she's worried about leaving the deus ex mapina unattended in Ponyville. Because not having your life controlled by some unfathomable abstract force that plays you like a puppet would be too horrible to contemplate.

And don't forget that she has royal duties as well (off-screen of course), so she can't just abandon her castle for an impromptu excursion to a faraway land.

Arcanium of mars

Trotterdam wrote:What I don't understand is why it hasn't occured to Twilight that if she wants to tour the world so badly, she can go visit places without being on a quest to save Equestria.
Seriously. There's stuff she's excited to see Griffonstone or Manehattan? Just go there. Doesn't have a be a special occasion. Bring some friends if you want (if the other main characters can't come, try asking Twinkleshine and co. - remember them?).
Unless she's worried about leaving the deus ex mapina unattended in Ponyville. Because not having your life controlled by some unfathomable abstract force that plays you like a puppet would be too horrible to contemplate.

Or go back and check on Sunset Shimmer and friends now and then like she did on the movie at the end!

Arcanium of mars

Islamic terrorist cats wrote:So a couple guys on 4chan started a "piss for equality" hashtag as a joke and now people are actually pissing themselves for it.
https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12115719_1022702207750992_2658984819789818849_n.png?oh=65c0851462611b2e4c99ded335fb1cbb&oe=5694C040

Because their are some people who will actually believe what they see on the internet, while the rare smart people can see through all this.

Maxim heavy industries and GlobalControl

Arcanium of mars wrote:Because their are some people who will actually believe what they see on the internet, while the rare smart people can see through all this.

Smart people aren't as rare as you think. The problem is that the less intelligent are better at grabbing attention.

Maxim heavy industries

Islamic terrorist cats wrote:So a couple guys on 4chan

You could have just stopped there.

The rest is redundant.

Our town renewed wrote:The thing is, she is very intent on following rules. She sees the Map as a higher power than her, and as such has to abide by its decrees.

It's possible to argue different opinions about the deus ex mapina. I think it's a dumb plot device because it diminishes the story's weight and the characters' accomplishments by having them merely be pawns in the hands of fate, foreordained to win by an infallible omniscient mastermind, but at least it's a dumb plot device that, if it actually existed, it would be a good idea to listen to.

However, even if you accept (both as in-universe sensible behavior and as out-of-universe good storytelling) Twilight subordinating her initiative whenever the deus ex mapina has an important mission to her, that doesn't justify her refusing to take initiative when she isn't explicitly being asked to do anything right now. That's just defeatism.

Our town renewed wrote:And don't forget that she has royal duties as well (off-screen of course), so she can't just abandon her castle for an impromptu excursion to a faraway land.

Onscreen her royal duties seem to be pretty much limited to "do whatever the deus ex mapina tells me to". We never see any ponies voluntarily coming to Twilight to have her help with a friendship problem, let alone her being useful at the numerous non-friendship-related administrative duties that she's supposedly good at.

...Okay, I now remember there were a couple of royal duties in Trade Ya and Princess Spike. Neither of which, incidentally, took place at her "castle".

...And Party Pooped. Yeah, okay, there's a little more than I remembered. Still doesn't take up the majority of her time.

She was still bored, which kind of contradicts any assertion that she's too busy with official duties to take some time for herself.

Also, whatever duties she has aren't enough of a bother that she can't free a slot in her schedule when the deus ex mapina does tell her to.

Squeeheart wrote:Smart people aren't as rare as you think. The problem is that the less intelligent are better at grabbing attention.

"Smart" is a scale, not an on-or-off value. How many smart people there are depends on where you draw the line.

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