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Puan puri naduk wrote:I was the only one who voted to join the zombies... but since the majority of the region voted to research for a cure. We will follow the majority opinion and do the cure option when Zday arrives.

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Bawal bang magrebelde?

The third nova terra of scrin

Ah, okay, we'll research a cure.

And since, I have no longer anything else to say, I agree with everyone here.

The third nova terra of scrin

But no, I have gathered up some new thoughts.

Asigna, we don't have the coffers and projection of a great power, how can we even covertly work to destabilize China? Assuming money and men aren't an issue, shouldn't it be a dent on reputation, diplomacy and the danger of dealing with China itself face-to-face if we try assisting anti-Chinese insurgents? We're not a Russia, you know.

But, I have a different opinion on Philippines-US relations. Yes, yes, yes, it's always good to be self-reliant and independent. But the problem is that we're not self-reliant and independent.

Though I agree that it's no longer the Cold War and it's no longer the good old days that Communism is always gonna get you anytime so you better get on Murica's back and trust me, I do not have a largely positive view of the U.S viewing it as a degenerated remnant of what has been once the greatest and mightiest prosperous Christian nation before and so, I have capacity to doubt, and I hope all of you also well the reliability and loyalty of the American state.

Even though, I fully support my fellow comrade's comments some times earlier when I wasn't around that, we should try to be a more self-sufficient nation economically. But, economics.

I think we actually need American defensive and military assistance, since we have a weak military and even if we have an active military modernization (assuming Binay is not to become President), only magic can make us to become, let's say a fully capable and modern military in 5-10 years time. And, China is always a threat. Even though a full-scale Chinese invasion is hard to imagine, it's always good to have some friends in our side.

Yes, yes, yes, we all doubt America and don't see them as a glorious Knight in Shining Armour, but our good and strong diplomatic relationships are not a delusion, at the very least. And if you don't like America, messing with our economy, well, you can always rely on the Americans in Filipino-American cooperation matters that are soft and fluffy like education, science, culture, anything like that.

What I'm saying (I stressed earlier that I'm not an America fan), even though we want and we should become more self-reliant as Filipinos and lessen our dependency from Americans, friendly American-Filipino relations are not going to wither overnight.

I also agree having better relations with countries such as Japan, UK, India, Australia and the E.U, the recent P-NOY visit in E.U is very good and I think Filipino diplomatic policy is ignoring the fruits of European cooperation and friendship.

One more thing, if you guys do not like America and China, you can always bring Russia to the table, though I think we Filipinos will not be eager to the Bear.

The third nova terra of scrin

Africa philippines wrote:

One curious thing which I'm pretty sure everyone has noticed: There has been no major incidents with China every since the start of this year, when news about ISIL/ISIS broke. Could it be the US ---now kept busy with fighting ISIL, no longer with to "see" incidents in Southeast Asia? Could it be that behind the scenes, Noynoy was just listening to US orders on how to conduct Philippines foreign relations and was just cooperating with the US so it could "pivot to Asia"? I think there is some truth in that.

Regarding American attention, one thing- They're not also paying attention to ISIS well, all what Barack Hussein Obama does seems to be ineffective air strikes. Also, a true superpower has eyes and ears everywhere so if China lifts a finger, do you expect America to just look away?

The third nova terra of scrin wrote:But no, I have gathered up some new thoughts.

Asigna, we don't have the coffers and projection of a great power, how can we even covertly work to destabilize China? Assuming money and men aren't an issue, shouldn't it be a dent on reputation, diplomacy and the danger of dealing with China itself face-to-face if we try assisting anti-Chinese insurgents? We're not a Russia, you know.

But, I have a different opinion on Philippines-US relations. Yes, yes, yes, it's always good to be self-reliant and independent. But the problem is that we're not self-reliant and independent.

Though I agree that it's no longer the Cold War and it's no longer the good old days that Communism is always gonna get you anytime so you better get on Murica's back and trust me, I do not have a largely positive view of the U.S viewing it as a degenerated remnant of what has been once the greatest and mightiest prosperous Christian nation before and so, I have capacity to doubt, and I hope all of you also well the reliability and loyalty of the American state.

Even though, I fully support my fellow comrade's comments some times earlier when I wasn't around that, we should try to be a more self-sufficient nation economically. But, economics.

I think we actually need American defensive and military assistance, since we have a weak military and even if we have an active military modernization (assuming Binay is not to become President), only magic can make us to become, let's say a fully capable and modern military in 5-10 years time. And, China is always a threat. Even though a full-scale Chinese invasion is hard to imagine, it's always good to have some friends in our side.

Yes, yes, yes, we all doubt America and don't see them as a glorious Knight in Shining Armour, but our good and strong diplomatic relationships are not a delusion, at the very least. And if you don't like America, messing with our economy, well, you can always rely on the Americans in Filipino-American cooperation matters that are soft and fluffy like education, science, culture, anything like that.

What I'm saying (I stressed earlier that I'm not an America fan), even though we want and we should become more self-reliant as Filipinos and lessen our dependency from Americans, friendly American-Filipino relations are not going to wither overnight.

I also agree having better relations with countries such as Japan, UK, India, Australia and the E.U, the recent P-NOY visit in E.U is very good and I think Filipino diplomatic policy is ignoring the fruits of European cooperation and friendship.

One more thing, if you guys do not like America and China, you can always bring Russia to the table, though I think we Filipinos will not be eager to the Bear.

No! To say we must rely on another country and say we cannot work hard to stand on our own? Shame on you!

The third nova terra of scrin

Asigna wrote:No! To say we must rely on another country and say we cannot work hard to stand on our own? Shame on you!

Asigna, first, I know it's long, but you completely misrepresented my views 100%.

What I said in a nutshell: Philippines must become more self-reliant and become less dependent on U.S. Philippines must start actions to become more self-reliant economically. Philippines must initiate better diplomatic relations with nations other than the U.S. Philippines must maintain military relations with the U.S still even with an active military modernization program as Philippine defense will not suddenly become reliable overnight.

I'm more on a middle ground. First, off, it's impossible to be 100% self-reliant (unless we want to emulate North Korean hunger and malnutrition in the guise of Juche self-sufficiency) since we live in a global world with 200 nations and it will be impossible for a country to produce all the 100% needs of its citizens. So, we should not become a hermit nation, become fascists, create a Philippine Great Wall and declare war on all other races, it's ridiculous.

But it's not nice to become self-reliant on other nations also. A nation too reliant on other nations will find itself destroyed by other nations it has been relying on.

So I suggest that we take a balance between good diplomatic relations with others and self-sufficiency. I do not believe that we can achieve becoming a cultural, military, economic great power in a short time, it'll take very long progress and lots of decades. So, in the mean time, make friends while becoming more self-reliant.

The third nova terra of scrin

Asigna wrote:No! To say we must rely on another country and say we cannot work hard to stand on our own? Shame on you!

Also, you can read the posts of others more accurately and communicate in a more polite tone. You can do that.

The third nova terra of scrin wrote:Also, you can read the posts of others more accurately and communicate in a more polite tone. You can do that.

Oh sorry. Chill! Chill! Forgive me. I didn't have time to read all of it and i thought you were trying to propagate a negative and pessimistic message. I was in a rush to review everything that is being presented here.

Anyway, i was not trying to say we must be self sufficient, it's just like what you said. So we both are in no position to throw stones at each other that we have misinterpreted each other. :p

We have the same idea. Which is good. However, by further lessening political contact with the US, it will propagate a symbolic act that we don't need the US anymore and we are finally no longer lackeys of imperialism, that act has a propaganda effect. But that can only be achieved after everything is set right, economics and politics in the domestic scope.

The third nova terra of scrin wrote:Ah, okay, we'll research a cure.

And since, I have no longer anything else to say, I agree with everyone here.

Hey! Another idea. Let's not drift off to other regions in the time of the pandemic so we can concentrate our efforts right here in our region more effectively.

The third nova terra of scrin

Asigna wrote:Hey! Another idea. Let's not drift off to other regions in the time of the pandemic so we can concentrate our efforts right here in our region more effectively.

Anyway, I thought that's the limit of your ability to understand. Sorry ^^

And, who are the ones who drift off to other regions?

The third nova terra of scrin wrote:Anyway, I thought that's the limit of your ability to understand. Sorry ^^

And, who are the ones who drift off to other regions?

Just saying, last year, our effort to cleanse our region (the Equinox for that matter), was a disaster. Since many actives have either moved to cleanse other regions out of favor or are inactive.

Nationalist eminral republic

Asigna wrote:Peh. Useless.

Nothing can stop the zombie caliphate.

Eminrallian Military shall use everything at its disposal to degrade and destroy the Undead State of Eminral and Philippines

Nationalist eminral republic wrote:Eminrallian Military shall use everything at its disposal to degrade and destroy the Undead State of Eminral and Philippines

We will behead the living hostages. Zombie John (Jihadi John) is the executioner and you can never figure out his identity (He's definitely not a British rapper).

The third nova terra of scrin

Asigna wrote:We will behead the living hostages. Zombie John (Jihadi John) is the executioner and you can never figure out his identity (He's definitely not a British rapper).

Oh my God! A Zombie Muslim! Are we prepared for the Zombie State of Zomsyria and the Zomlevant?

Nationalist eminral republic

The third nova terra of scrin wrote:Oh my God! A Zombie Muslim! Are we prepared for the Zombie State of Zomsyria and the Zomlevant?

Just in: Eminrallian Army prepares F2 fighter as Minister of National Defense announces the start of air strikes against ZSZZ. (We should call it Zisiziz :P)

Nationalist eminral republic wrote:Just in: Eminrallian Army prepares F2 fighter as Minister of National Defense announces the start of air strikes against ZSZZ. (We should call it Zisiziz :P)

French government: No, that's offensive. Call it Zaesh!

By the grace of Zallah, the most dead and the most crippled we have proclaimed all nations of the Ummah to be part of the Zombie unliving caliphate.

Our motto will be:

"Dying and unliving."

Neo philippine empire

I revived. What happened here?

Nationalist eminral republic

Neo philippine empire wrote:I revived. What happened here?

Zombie caliphate is back (Z-day)

Asigna wrote:French government: No, that's offensive. Call it Zaesh!

By the grace of Zallah, the most dead and the most crippled we have proclaimed all nations of the Ummah to be part of the Zombie unliving caliphate.

Our motto will be:

"Dying and unliving."

I'm pretty sure the french called them Daesh to offend ISIS. Anyway..

Eminrallian President reiterates that no boots will be sent on the ground to suppers Zisis or Zaesh but air strikes will continue as part of the plan to halt the advance of Zombie State fighters. Meanwhile estimated 13 Eminrallians have flown to Fairfield (Left 4 Dead ref.) to join Zisis.

Neo philippine empire

[quote=nationalist_eminral_republic;8318719]Zombie caliphate is back (Z-day)

Ahh..This is fun, I should invest more in curing. And I must make a safe private region

Nationalist eminral republic

Neo philippine empire wrote:[quote=nationalist_eminral_republic;8318719]Zombie caliphate is back (Z-day)

Ahh..This is fun, I should invest more in curing. And I must make a safe private region

Is there no option of locking up the borders? :P

And is the regional strategy mandatory?

Neo philippine empire

Nationalist eminral republic wrote:Is there no option of locking up the borders? :P

And is the regional strategy mandatory?

Probably Password lock or codes that exists during Z-day

Probably not, when I was in GGR, I used Extermination while the rest were Zombies and only 4 out of 100 were using cure even it was mandatory :P

Nationalist eminral republic

Neo philippine empire wrote:Probably Password lock or codes that exists during Z-day

Probably not, when I was in GGR, I used Extermination while the rest were Zombies and only 4 out of 100 were using cure even it was mandatory :P

Well some regions do enforce a method on how to deal with zombies so..

Neo philippine empire

Asigna wrote:No! To say we must rely on another country and say we cannot work hard to stand on our own? Shame on you!

Uhh.... We need allies too because we cannot win wars alone. As he said, we can be economically independent but not militarily, we don't even have a modern 4th-5th generation jet fighter or a missile guided frigate.

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Neo philippine empire wrote:Uhh.... We need allies too because we cannot win wars alone. As he said, we can be economically independent but not militarily, we don't even have a modern 4th-5th generation jet fighter or a missile guided frigate.

We don't need extensive military arsenal for an offensive military capability. All we need is defensive capabilities. We can secure a strategic integration and regional leadership over the ASEAN shall we be able. Massing up an amalgamation of countries under one banner against our adversaries as a political, economic and military deterrent is a much more preferred tactic for us. We must set our sights on first making ourselves economically strong by investing in infrastructure and then uniting ASEAN (or at least most of it) under common interest.

Germany can pretty much sway nations to and fro because of its economic and political influence, not because of military. Yet it is not completely independent economically since its economy is relative to its neighbors, but we can say it is definitely in control.

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